A lot. But it's not possible to discuss it with you.
You just came to disturb the thread, like you always do.
It's about the best 5000m kick in history. On the very 1st page you were given the finishing times of all the championship finals of the last decades. Anybody can see how strong Jakob has finished all 3 of his global 5000m titles. Yet you only point on his recent performance from Tokyo when all of us are aware that he was far from his best because of his injury. Not a single sentence where you try to objectively compare Jakob's performances with Hocker's, Bekele's...
A lot. But it's not possible to discuss it with you.
You just came to disturb the thread, like you always do.
It's about the best 5000m kick in history. On the very 1st page you were given the finishing times of all the championship finals of the last decades. Anybody can see how strong Jakob has finished all 3 of his global 5000m titles. Yet you only point on his recent performance from Tokyo when all of us are aware that he was far from his best because of his injury. Not a single sentence where you try to objectively compare Jakob's performances with Hocker's, Bekele's...
You're just sick.
You don't seem to realize this is a public site, not a private conversation with another poster. So you have offered nothing on the thread subject that might interest other posters but have confined yourself to repetitiously and tediously attacking a poster whom you don't like. It is all you do.
I have given several reasons why I don't agree with the OP that Ingebrigtsen "has the best 5k kick in history" (quite apart from the inconvenient fact his career at the top is likely over because of his repeated injuries) but to such as you it is compulsory to accept views expressed here that you approve of. Is this a religious cult?
A lot. But it's not possible to discuss it with you.
You just came to disturb the thread, like you always do.
It's about the best 5000m kick in history. On the very 1st page you were given the finishing times of all the championship finals of the last decades. Anybody can see how strong Jakob has finished all 3 of his global 5000m titles. Yet you only point on his recent performance from Tokyo when all of us are aware that he was far from his best because of his injury. Not a single sentence where you try to objectively compare Jakob's performances with Hocker's, Bekele's...
You're just sick.
You don't seem to realize this is a public site, not a private conversation with another poster. So you have offered nothing on the thread subject that might interest other posters but have confined yourself to repetitiously and tediously attacking a poster whom you don't like. It is all you do.
I have given several reasons why I don't agree with the OP that Ingebrigtsen "has the best 5k kick in history" (quite apart from the inconvenient fact his career at the top is likely over because of his repeated injuries) but to such as you it is compulsory to accept views expressed here that you approve of. Is this a religious cult?
I have commented on the thread topic.
Several times you tried to ridicule his finishing kick because he finished 10th in Tokyo. Not a single word from you about his finishing times in his three global gold performances (the fastest in several aspects). Just sick.
Could he have done Hocker's last 400 from Tokyo? I don't think so.
Could Hocker finish like Jakob did in Eugene, Budapest or Paris? I don't think. What about Aouita, Morceli (52.0 to 13:03 31 years ago), Kipchoge, Gebrselassie, Bekele? Who has the best finish in which type of race? Armstrong: look at Tokyo...
Like always, no serious discussion possible with you.
You don't seem to realize this is a public site, not a private conversation with another poster. So you have offered nothing on the thread subject that might interest other posters but have confined yourself to repetitiously and tediously attacking a poster whom you don't like. It is all you do.
I have given several reasons why I don't agree with the OP that Ingebrigtsen "has the best 5k kick in history" (quite apart from the inconvenient fact his career at the top is likely over because of his repeated injuries) but to such as you it is compulsory to accept views expressed here that you approve of. Is this a religious cult?
I have commented on the thread topic.
Several times you tried to ridicule his finishing kick because he finished 10th in Tokyo. Not a single word from you about his finishing times in his three global gold performances (the fastest in several aspects). Just sick.
Could he have done Hocker's last 400 from Tokyo? I don't think so.
Could Hocker finish like Jakob did in Eugene, Budapest or Paris? I don't think. What about Aouita, Morceli (52.0 to 13:03 31 years ago), Kipchoge, Gebrselassie, Bekele? Who has the best finish in which type of race? Armstrong: look at Tokyo...
Like always, no serious discussion possible with you.
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
He has only done what you are doing now, another vacuous personal attack.
When you are constantly attacking other posters, expect retaliation. Lucky for you, this is not face to face. You are just a coward.
So my responding to those who do nothing but make personal attacks against me is a "personal attack" by me? That's rich.
As for the implied threat in your saying that this is "not face to face", you do know that this place is simply allowing people to express their opinions about running and other given topics? You lot take yourselves unbelievably seriously.
Several times you tried to ridicule his finishing kick because he finished 10th in Tokyo. Not a single word from you about his finishing times in his three global gold performances (the fastest in several aspects). Just sick.
Could he have done Hocker's last 400 from Tokyo? I don't think so.
Could Hocker finish like Jakob did in Eugene, Budapest or Paris? I don't think. What about Aouita, Morceli (52.0 to 13:03 31 years ago), Kipchoge, Gebrselassie, Bekele? Who has the best finish in which type of race? Armstrong: look at Tokyo...
Like always, no serious discussion possible with you.
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
This fat, hairy, old bolshevik fraudster’s sexual obsession with Jakob is what’s certifiable. 🥸 Go have a corned beef on rye and figure out a new route.
Hocker would outkick Jakob in a 12:58 race - and Farah.
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
This fat, hairy, old bolshevik fraudster’s sexual obsession with Jakob is what’s certifiable. 🥸 Go have a corned beef on rye and figure out a new route.
Hocker would outkick Jakob in a 12:58 race - and Farah.
A few other posters in other threads have commented on Armstronglivs’ game, what he is, etc. They and you seem to be correct. In the end he’s another shift worker one could say.
Several times you tried to ridicule his finishing kick because he finished 10th in Tokyo. Not a single word from you about his finishing times in his three global gold performances (the fastest in several aspects). Just sick.
Could he have done Hocker's last 400 from Tokyo? I don't think so.
Could Hocker finish like Jakob did in Eugene, Budapest or Paris? I don't think. What about Aouita, Morceli (52.0 to 13:03 31 years ago), Kipchoge, Gebrselassie, Bekele? Who has the best finish in which type of race? Armstrong: look at Tokyo...
Like always, no serious discussion possible with you.
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
I have commented on the topic.
I have not attacked you.
Pointing on your nonsense is not attacking.
How do you rank Jakob's finishes from Eugene, Budapest and Paris?
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
This fat, hairy, old bolshevik fraudster’s sexual obsession with Jakob is what’s certifiable. 🥸 Go have a corned beef on rye and figure out a new route.
Hocker would outkick Jakob in a 12:58 race - and Farah.
Another who can't cope with reading views they don't agree with. It's almost a necessity on these threads.
You haven't commented on the topic. You have only attacked me - hence your user name. Your obsession with another poster is certifiable.
I have commented on the topic.
I have not attacked you.
Pointing on your nonsense is not attacking.
How do you rank Jakob's finishes from Eugene, Budapest and Paris?
Your posts have been personal attacks. If they weren't you would have expressed views I could have addressed. But you didn't.
Ingebrigtsen has shown strong finishes in some of his races but the claim here is that he has (present tense) the greatest finish in the history of the 5k. Quite simply he hasn't won enough of the biggest races to make that claim. In one race - at the last world's - Hocker's finish challenges that assertion. I also said that, from another perspective, Farah's defeat of all the top runners in his generation in successive global 5k (and 10k) finals - and all achieved with a last lap sprint - still puts him ahead of Ingebrigtsen as one of the greatest kickers in the event. It isn't about times but how the field - and its calibre - has been defeated. If Ingebrigtsen had a few more years at the top he could conceivably become the greatest in the event but his increased susceptibility to injury makes it very unlikely that he will ever regain his peak form or sustain it if he does.
The thing that you and others here need to get your heads around is that I am offering an opinion, just as everyone else does, which means whatever view you take on the question posed by the OP it isn't conclusive fact; it is a judgment call. It isn't a requirement to agree because no one can be guaranteed to be "right".
This fat, hairy, old bolshevik fraudster’s sexual obsession with Jakob is what’s certifiable. 🥸 Go have a corned beef on rye and figure out a new route.
Hocker would outkick Jakob in a 12:58 race - and Farah.
A few other posters in other threads have commented on Armstronglivs’ game, what he is, etc. They and you seem to be correct. In the end he’s another shift worker one could say.
And you're an expert? Your comment is nothing more than a personal opinion, which means nothing because that's all it is. Nor is it clever or show wit. It's the kind of thing anyone in a bar could come out with. But it's typical of this place.
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How do you rank Jakob's finishes from Eugene, Budapest and Paris?
Your posts have been personal attacks. If they weren't you would have expressed views I could have addressed. But you didn't.
Ingebrigtsen has shown strong finishes in some of his races but the claim here is that he has (present tense) the greatest finish in the history of the 5k. Quite simply he hasn't won enough of the biggest races to make that claim. In one race - at the last world's - Hocker's finish challenges that assertion. I also said that, from another perspective, Farah's defeat of all the top runners in his generation in successive global 5k (and 10k) finals - and all achieved with a last lap sprint - still puts him ahead of Ingebrigtsen as one of the greatest kickers in the event. It isn't about times but how the field - and its calibre - has been defeated. If Ingebrigtsen had a few more years at the top he could conceivably become the greatest in the event but his increased susceptibility to injury makes it very unlikely that he will ever regain his peak form or sustain it if he does.
The thing that you and others here need to get your heads around is that I am offering an opinion, just as everyone else does, which means whatever view you take on the question posed by the OP it isn't conclusive fact; it is a judgment call. It isn't a requirement to agree because no one can be guaranteed to be "right".
I have not attacked you. For you it's a personal attack when someone points on how laughable it is when again and again you point on his performance from Tokyo coming from an injury which kept him away from the outdoor season (as you did again here).
Best finish - for sure this discussion is not about the level from someone far from his best because of injury. Fore sure you know it.
He hasn't won enough... - three global outdoor titles (just turned 25). In the history of the event only Farah has more (first title at 28).
Farah - last lap sprint.
Ingebrigtsen - 2, 3 or 4 lap "sprint". This hardly can be called a kick, but most likely he would have destroyed Farah (and Hocker) with it.
What about Morceli's 52.0 to 13:03? From 31 years ago, WR 12:56.96. It left a extremely fast finisher like Khalid Skah seconds behind.