Most people would say 2023 is 3 years after 2020, not 2025. You are mentally challenged.
What part of "The Tokyo Olympics took place in 2021." are you struggling with, dear?
Or that from the Summer of 2021 to early 2025 is less than 3.5 years?
You are mentally challenged.
And you are like a little child. However you play around with numbers it doesn't change my point and the fact Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a big championship 1500 race for several years.
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What part of "The Tokyo Olympics took place in 2021." are you struggling with, dear?
Or that from the Summer of 2021 to early 2025 is less than 3.5 years?
You are mentally challenged.
And you are like a little child. However you play around with numbers it doesn't change my point and the fact Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a big championship 1500 race for several years.
And you are like a little child. However you play around with numbers it doesn't change my point and the fact Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a big championship 1500 race for several years.
Yeah, you were wrong. Thanks.
Not wrong. He hasn't won a global 1500 championship title since 2021. Now **.
Last time they met was at Worlds 2022, a race Jakob won while Cheptegei finished 9th (ninth). How are you this confident that Cheptegei is better than Jakob when you're here admitting that you don't even follow the sport?
So they haven't met in years and last raced when Cheptegei was clearly out of form. In the meantime Cheptegei has the 5k and 10k wr's. Ingebrigtsen is 20th fastest over the 5k and not ranked in the 10k.
Yes, that's because Cheptegei doesn't feel like running the biggest races in the 5k because he's a time trialist. He has one global gold and outside of that has embarrassed himself by finishing 9th, 8th and not showing up for any other global finals than that since 2015. How exactly can one be the best in the event when they've shown up for 3 global finals since 2015 and embarrassed themselves in two of them?
If all of the other guys Jakob faces on the circuit can't be the best for the biggest race of the season and can only show what they're capable of in paced non-championship races then that's hardly an argument in their favor.
Plenty of the Worlds and Olympics finals have had the Ethiopians work together as a group to draft off each other up front and Jakob still jogs past them without looking like he's breaking a sweat.
He's facing the fastest field the sport has seen, yet none of them wants to turn the slow championship races into a fast race, and there's a reason for that. Partly because they know Jakob is a 3:26/7:17 athlete and partly because hardly anyone in front of Jakob on the all time list has managed to put up similar times to their PBs more than once. Cheptegeis second best time is 12:41, Gebrwihets second best time is 12:42, Kejelchas second best time is 12:41...
Only Bekele has run 12:40 or faster more than once.
Arranging one race every other year (like OG/WC)is seemingly a smart thing to do in order to decide who’s the best athlete the current year. -The thought here is that all the athletes peak at this specific race, and that the best therefore propels to the win. And that we as spectators get to view a highly anticipated and exciting race. And yes, sometimes this clearly is the case (Rudisha London 2012, Cheruiyot Doha 2019, but also winners that didn’t front run the whole race).
Your point is true if we're only using a sample size of one race, but we don't, we have a sample size of a hell of a lot more races than that, and in all of those races spanning several years it's Jakob who's the best when it matters. No other metric becomes relevant until he loses a global or regional championship, like what we're seeing in the 1500, when the entire rest of the field combined can't even beat him once in the 5000.
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What part of "The Tokyo Olympics took place in 2021." are you struggling with, dear?
Or that from the Summer of 2021 to early 2025 is less than 3.5 years?
You are mentally challenged.
And you are like a little child. However you play around with numbers it doesn't change my point and the fact Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a big championship 1500 race for several years.
Correcting a wrong number is "playing around with numbers" for Armdumb...
Not wrong. He hasn't won a global 1500 championship title since 2021. Now **.
You were wrong when you said 4 or 5 years. Now piss off.
Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a WC or Olympic 1500 title since Tokyo. He didn't even place at the last Olympics in the 1500. None of your piffle changes what that shows, that he has been unable to win global championship titles over his main distance for several years.
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So they haven't met in years and last raced when Cheptegei was clearly out of form. In the meantime Cheptegei has the 5k and 10k wr's. Ingebrigtsen is 20th fastest over the 5k and not ranked in the 10k.
Yes, that's because Cheptegei doesn't feel like running the biggest races in the 5k because he's a time trialist. He has one global gold and outside of that has embarrassed himself by finishing 9th, 8th and not showing up for any other global finals than that since 2015. How exactly can one be the best in the event when they've shown up for 3 global finals since 2015 and embarrassed themselves in two of them?
How close is Ingebrigtsen to Cheptegei's 5k and 10k records? (And Cheptegei was a more impressive Olympic 10k champion than Ingebrigtsen was over 5k).
And you are like a little child. However you play around with numbers it doesn't change my point and the fact Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a big championship 1500 race for several years.
Correcting a wrong number is "playing around with numbers" for Armdumb...
The point was about years not months and days, you moron. Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a global 1500 title since 2021. That's virtually the length of Elliott and Snell's entire careers.
Arranging one race every other year (like OG/WC)is seemingly a smart thing to do in order to decide who’s the best athlete the current year. -The thought here is that all the athletes peak at this specific race, and that the best therefore propels to the win. And that we as spectators get to view a highly anticipated and exciting race. And yes, sometimes this clearly is the case (Rudisha London 2012, Cheruiyot Doha 2019, but also winners that didn’t front run the whole race).
Your point is true if we're only using a sample size of one race, but we don't, we have a sample size of a hell of a lot more races than that, and in all of those races spanning several years it's Jakob who's the best when it matters. No other metric becomes relevant until he loses a global or regional championship, like what we're seeing in the 1500, when the entire rest of the field combined can't even beat him once in the 5000.
The 1500 has shown Jakob is not the best when it matters, since 2021. So how many 5k races has he run since then? Perhaps that's the reason excuses are regularly made here for the fact he hasn't improved his 5k time in the same period. He's still only the 20th fastest historically over the distance. Until he shows he can run better than what he has been able to do in slow tactical races he isn't yet one of the great 5k runners.
Correcting a wrong number is "playing around with numbers" for Armdumb...
The point was about years not months and days, you moron. Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a global 1500 title since 2021. That's virtually the length of Elliott and Snell's entire careers.
Cant be much of a runners with that short careers. What is impressive with runners like Bekele and Kipchoge etc is how they have been facing the previous, current and next generation.
Most people would say 2023 is 3 years after 2020, not 2025. You are mentally challenged.
Its not 2020, it was 2021. Most people would just look at the dates and see how many years it was. Just buy yourself a calendar and you will figure it out hopefully.
Correcting a wrong number is "playing around with numbers" for Armdumb...
The point was about years not months and days, you moron. Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a global 1500 title since 2021. That's virtually the length of Elliott and Snell's entire careers.
Exactly, about years.
You said five, correct is three.
Yes, both Elliott and Snell were at the top for a very short period.
Your only contribution to threads like this is what anybody knew before: Ingebrigtsen has not won any of the last three global 1500m finals (in which he placed 2nd, 2nd, 4th - better than all the others).
Yes, that's because Cheptegei doesn't feel like running the biggest races in the 5k because he's a time trialist. He has one global gold and outside of that has embarrassed himself by finishing 9th, 8th and not showing up for any other global finals than that since 2015. How exactly can one be the best in the event when they've shown up for 3 global finals since 2015 and embarrassed themselves in two of them?
How close is Ingebrigtsen to Cheptegei's 5k and 10k records? (And Cheptegei was a more impressive Olympic 10k champion than Ingebrigtsen was over 5k).
Always changing the subject when having completely lost some point.
How close is Ingebrigtsen to the 10000m (that's what he means) WR? He has never raced the distance.
Ingebrigtsen is 13.10 seconds behind the 5000m WR (mainly because he has never raced the distance for time) - and would probably beat the WR holder in any competition.
Cheptegei's global 5000m results: 8th, 1st, 9th (age 28)
Ingebrigtsen's global 5000m results: 5th, 1st, 1st, 1st (age 24)
The point was about years not months and days, you moron. Ingebrigtsen hasn't won a global 1500 title since 2021. That's virtually the length of Elliott and Snell's entire careers.
Exactly, about years.
You said five, correct is three.
Yes, both Elliott and Snell were at the top for a very short period.
Your only contribution to threads like this is what anybody knew before: Ingebrigtsen has not won any of the last three global 1500m finals (in which he placed 2nd, 2nd, 4th - better than all the others).
It isn't 3. The number 4 added to 2021 is 2025. But this rubbish you are arguing is simply to minimise Ingebrigtsen's protracted losing record over his main distance.
Elliott and Snell had careers of a typical length in the amateur era before doping took over the sport. But we wouldn't be estimating them as the great runners they were if they lost all global championship finals and the big races in their careers. That honour, of losing such races in a similar span, falls to Ingebrigtsen.
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