NXN 2024 Girls

New York is looking good...Tsadia Bercuvitz (Soph) from Ithaca with a 153 SR today.

In last year’s NXN thread, someone posted that:

NY (or NE) Speed rating = SW Speed rating + 3

I think the Piedmont girls of Oklahoma have a real chance to be the first team to qualify for NXN out of Oklahoma.

This race isn't what it used to be. Herriman boys were the only ranked team on either side.

Shameful showing for all California teams... especially Rancho Cucamonga, who finished dead last in both Boys and Girls. Their top girl stayed home and raced at Chaffey, so why did they bother competing in the Elite race, and have 6 of the 8 slowest girls in the entire race?

J Serra and Great Oak were both pretty bad as well. Jet lag? Sickness? Either way, teams are better off canceling or moving down to less competitive heats if they're not at their best. Hope they're all ok, heading into Clovis in a couple weeks.

The south probably deserves an at large spot this year but won't get one because the people aren't lobbying enough for them.

The Woodbridge Invitational already showed that Texas is better than people thought and Rogers and Piedmont are both good, too.

Also, Dyestat's South Rankings are so off it's not even funny. I said it earlier this season and they've gotten even worse.

https://results.caltiming.com/meets/40514

What on earth happened to Buchanan boys and girls!?! Those times don’t even seem real! I know it was “hot” but these kids run in the Fresno heat every day and race in the same temperatures. These times are a little alarming especially because it was on the state course.

Those SR’s are next to meaningless.

TheStrideReport girls team rankings

Very surprised that Ventura is not in the top 10 especially with 3 California teams in the top 10.

I really believe that Buchanan gets ranked because they are a favorite especially with a very powerful CA running commentator. And this ranking is not based on actual season results. It’s based on what they “hope” Buchanan can pull together when everyone else is being judged on results from this season and not hopes. Keep hoping guys cause some of those runners haven’t had a PR for 2 years and have added 30-60 seconds to their Woodward times.

Ventura was the top CA team at Woodbridge. Those are actual results.

Well, cross thestridereport off your list of credible ranking sites. Flower Mound behind Academy despite destroying them at Woodbridge? Ventura not even in the top 10? Buchanan ahead of Santiago? J Serra on the list at all (do they not know about Summer Wilson's exit)? Maybe they're using data from this time a year ago?

Agreed. Ventura's improvement by their 2-3-4, and their surprise Freshman just keep getting swept under the rug... They should be ranked no lower than #5 in ANY rankings. Yet another snub, and it's gonna just put a bigger chip on the GOAT's shoulder. Same for Santiago being beind Buchanan. Santi beat them at States and at Woodbridge and everyone is back. So much emphasis is still being put on that silly muddy race in Portland last December.

I’ve read that they always have some really good freshmen (from the feeder program Alta Sierra) that do really well but when they get older they don’t improve much, and that the Buchanan coach hasn’t been developing many runners.

I wonder if the JSerra coach developed a lot of runners, or does he just rely on his transfers and newcomers / freshmen?

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=12242758&page=2

I think all the programs mentioned struggle with the same issue. It's hard to get high level freshmen girls to keep improving. It happens, but it's challenging. Ventura is getting the attention now because they have upper class girls on their team, but they have had the same scorers for several years and not all are improving.

Engelhardt scored as a 9th grader and went from 16:04 to 15:42 to 15:37 to 15:40

True scored as a 9th grader and went from 17:48 to 17:28 to 16:38.

Curtis scored as a 9th grader and went from 16:59 to 16:58 to 16:42

Sax scored for Newbury Park as a 9th grader and went 17:07 to 16:24 while at Newbury Park and then went to 17:20 this year

Nuckolls scored as a 9th grader this year and ran 17:01

So, they've had very good 9th graders and one of the current scorers has improved quite a bit, two have been pretty consistent and one has gone backwards. Is that more development than the other teams mentioned? I'm not criticizing, saying it's better or worse, just curious if that's considered developing runners or relying on newcomers/freshmen.

pretty much all the top girls teams in the Southeast except for Brentwood are lining up at Great American this weekend. Cardinal Gibbons, Webb School of Knoxville, Tatnall, Assumption, Blacksburg etc., will all be there and it will be a good early test to see how Cardinal Gibbons depth holds up in a large field and how far back the 4th and 5th are for Webb School after their great top 3.

You mean, like a true XC race?! I'd take a national championship meet at Glendoveer any day over a Woodbridge or RunningLane course.

I’m sure that some California fans miss it when Soles coached at Great Oak. He actually develops the runners that sign up.