On Tullyrunners, California boys teams are ranked:
#11, #14, #17, #21, #23
#11, #14, #17, #21, #23
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No boys teams in the top 10 and one close to it. Last year, Ventura was the only boys team in the top 10 in these preseason rankings and they imploded at the end.
San Clemente and Dana Hills ended up pulling it off though, placing in the top 10 at nationals. These 2 teams had preseason rankings of 21st and 19th (with transfer Jayden Hernandez included).
Also, it’s worth noting that Great Oak is the only nationally-ranked CA boys team that’s senior-heavy, so we can expect next year to be a better year for California teams.
And, along the way, some unknown CA team could surprise people. In 2018, there was a team that wasn’t ranked anywhere nationally in the preseason and then they ended up taking 6th at NXN.51 -
Dkub wrote:
No boys teams in the top 10 and one close to it. Last year, Ventura was the only boys team in the top 10 in these preseason rankings and they imploded at the end.
San Clemente and Dana Hills ended up pulling it off though, placing in the top 10 at nationals. These 2 teams had preseason rankings of 21st and 19th (with transfer Jayden Hernandez included).
Also, it’s worth noting that Great Oak is the only nationally-ranked CA boys team that’s senior-heavy, so we can expect next year to be a better year for California teams.
And, along the way, some unknown CA team could surprise people. In 2018, there was a team that wasn’t ranked anywhere nationally in the preseason and then they ended up taking 6th at NXN.Which team are you talking about?
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matt_c wrote:
Dkub wrote:
No boys teams in the top 10 and one close to it. Last year, Ventura was the only boys team in the top 10 in these preseason rankings and they imploded at the end.
San Clemente and Dana Hills ended up pulling it off though, placing in the top 10 at nationals. These 2 teams had preseason rankings of 21st and 19th (with transfer Jayden Hernandez included).
Also, it’s worth noting that Great Oak is the only nationally-ranked CA boys team that’s senior-heavy, so we can expect next year to be a better year for California teams.
And, along the way, some unknown CA team could surprise people. In 2018, there was a team that wasn’t ranked anywhere nationally in the preseason and then they ended up taking 6th at NXN.Which team are you talking about?
The one that took 6th at NXN? Newbury Park
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He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
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California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
As much as Jesuit is getting glazed in this thread, they do feel like the biggest wildcard here. Their range feels like anywhere between winning 1st in the merge or just being a fringe podium team in their division
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California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
Matilda Torres is the only D3 team in this list. Definitely a team to watch. This school opened up only a few years ago and they are on the rise. They have been led by underclassmen for the last couple of years.
Dana Hills has been to NXN many times, but they have some rebuilding to do after returning only Noonan and Hunter. They will need to find 3 guys to fill in, though they do have some younger kids coming up.
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Hobby10k wrote:
California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
As much as Jesuit is getting glazed in this thread, they do feel like the biggest wildcard here. Their range feels like anywhere between winning 1st in the merge or just being a fringe podium team in their division
This is all good entertainment while we all wait for a race to determine who worked hard in the summer and who is healthy when the season starts. Just throwing darts in the dark for now but if a stellar performance in cross 2023 didn't convert to a successful track season that gives a hint if there will be a bump in performance cross 2024. Woodbridge will be the first real indication followed by Clovis. The real discussions will start after Clovis which will thin out the "speed" teams and those that can handle Woodward Park.
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Granada time trial
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Rea Sea. wrote:
Definition wrote:
ML King has 3 pretty good male transfers. Only problem is that 1 of them is going to run against girls. This is an absolute travesty to girls sports, which should be protected beyond the limits of any political agenda.
Abigail jones (18:27 in 3-mile) - Arlington CA girls team to ML King
So ML King will have 2 new transfers on the boys team and 2 on the girls team?
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California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
Oaks Christian boys 10th with or without the transfer? Without one, the gap between 4 and 5 is looking to be huge.
Someone posted in the Woodbridge thread that they got one but no one said or knew who the transfer is. I can’t imagine them being top 10 with a huge gap that they have like they had last year. The track season didn’t show that the gap is going to be closed.
I think they are possibly top 10 if the transfer is at the same level as a top 4 Oaks runner.
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Openings wrote:
Rea Sea. wrote:
ML King has 3 pretty good male transfers. Only problem is that 1 of them is going to run against girls. This is an absolute travesty to girls sports, which should be protected beyond the limits of any political agenda.
Abigail jones (18:27 in 3-mile) - Arlington CA girls team to ML King
So ML King will have 2 new transfers on the boys team and 2 on the girls team?
I only know of 2 transfer boys running for the boys team and 1 transfer boy running for the girls team. Not a fan of this post from PrepCalTrack celebrating "her" as the silver medalist last year. That award was stolen from an actual girl.
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Rea Sea. wrote:
Openings wrote:
Abigail jones (18:27 in 3-mile) - Arlington CA girls team to ML King
So ML King will have 2 new transfers on the boys team and 2 on the girls team?
I only know of 2 transfer boys running for the boys team and 1 transfer boy running for the girls team. Not a fan of this post from PrepCalTrack celebrating "her" as the silver medalist last year. That award was stolen from an actual girl.
I see John Jones in the fall 2022 and spring 2023 Arlington results. And Abigail Jones in fall 2023 and spring 2024, so sex change might have happened in the summer 2023
So this might be the one
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Openings wrote:
Rea Sea. wrote:
I only know of 2 transfer boys running for the boys team and 1 transfer boy running for the girls team. Not a fan of this post from PrepCalTrack celebrating "her" as the silver medalist last year. That award was stolen from an actual girl.
I see John Jones in the fall 2022 and spring 2023 Arlington results. And Abigail Jones in fall 2023 and spring 2024, so sex change might have happened in the summer 2023
So this might be the one
That's him. HE ran slower as a girl last year than he did as a boy the year before. Won a Sophomore Mt Sac race and took glory from an actual girl.
There's no "sex change" here. Just an identity confusion that allows him to contribute to the end of girls sports. How can anyone stand behind this and not defend girls?
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Hobby10k wrote:
California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
As much as Jesuit is getting glazed in this thread, they do feel like the biggest wildcard here. Their range feels like anywhere between winning 1st in the merge or just being a fringe podium team in their division
Many CA teams are in this situation. It’s a barn burner this year
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California Region Ranking wrote:
He also gave his regional predictions as it went:
1. Great Oak
2. MLK
3. Buchanan
4. Beckman
5. Jesuit
6. Tesoro
7. Mira Costa
8. Matilda Torres
9. JSERRA
10. Oaks Christian
11. Bellarmine
Teams 1-5 are separated by 29 points in the scoring system so to me I believe those top 5 teams will probably be the ones who will be competing for NXN and all have a fair argument to believe they are the best team in the state. Preseason rankings are always strange as every year guys come out of nowhere or some team will pick up a transfer but I feel this gives a good idea on what is likely to come but I am excited to see how similar these rankings are when the season is done.
D5 is the only division that has no teams listed here. If there’s any team from that division that could be up there, it would be Menlo. They return everyone from last year and they have a really good #1 Pretre
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Tesoro time trial
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Trialls wrote:
Tesoro time trial
looks to be 5 guys under 15:30 coming woodbridge. If they can improve that to under 15:15 coming september that would be a solid team
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trailrunner86* wrote:
Trialls wrote:
Tesoro time trial
looks to be 5 guys under 15:30 coming woodbridge. If they can improve that to under 15:15 coming september that would be a solid team
Tell me how this team could possibly be predictably ranked ahead of Mira Costa, JSerra and Oaks Christian if only 2 guys break 10?
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Tell me how wrote:
trailrunner86* wrote:
looks to be 5 guys under 15:30 coming woodbridge. If they can improve that to under 15:15 coming september that would be a solid team
Tell me how this team could possibly be predictably ranked ahead of Mira Costa, JSerra and Oaks Christian if only 2 guys break 10?
Oaks Christian? Do we know who their transfer is?
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