NOBODY IS SAYING SLAVERY WAS GOOD FOR SLAVES. THEY WERE POINTING OUT THAT SOME TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SKILLS THEY LEARNED WHILE ENSLAVED. I don't understand how anyone could be this stupid.
Go ahead, I'd like to hear what skills they learned that freed slaves would have taken advantage of.
Oh and it isn't lost on me that this particular thread has brought out the LRC bigots. Reading through the board it's a parade of the "who's who" of the right-wing conspiracy lunatics. And while the response will be (predictably) something like "you are a woke pedophile lib" it shouldn't get lost on you that I, being a registered independent who's values and beliefs run the political spectrum, am a part of the group of Americans that you on the right should be trying to convince. You need our vote to take back the White House. You might wanna reassess your politics.
Florida has mandated that middle school kids in history when American chattel slavery is taught must say that slaves benefitted from skills learned during their enslavement. WTF?
NOBODY IS SAYING SLAVERY WAS GOOD FOR SLAVES. THEY WERE POINTING OUT THAT SOME TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SKILLS THEY LEARNED WHILE ENSLAVED. I don't understand how anyone could be this stupid.
Exactly what skill helped a black slave in America in 1800? They were born and died a slave. Also they were forbidden to learn to read and write. We all know why whites didn't want blacks to be literate.
Only a complete POS would save that slavery benefitted the slave. Everyone on the planet knows that is a damn lie. Slavery benefitted the enslaver.
How could you be so stupid....they could have learned hundreds of more skills besides, cleaning, cooking, tending fields, livery stables if they were FREE and able to legally read and write.
Man....white folks forever lying on black people in their weak attempt to try to prove they are superior. You are only cementing that their are still a lot of you that are racist POS
it's not the same as comparing Jews in camps. We knows those Jews came up in a different environment, pre concentration camp, than blacks in America, who lived as slaves from birth to death. Those Jews acquired skills before the camps.
It is a pertinent question to ask how blacks were able to survive in a free world post slavery, as long as you discuss it in the full context of their skills being limited compared to whites who had opportunity for schooling or learning other trades
Five years or less in a concentration or death camp is like hundreds of years in slavery?
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I spent 25 years in higher ed and DEI officers are completely useless make-work jobs. They are part of the administrative bloat that leads to an and prices many young people out of college.
DEI officers have no power? Are you kidding? Then how did things get how they are now?They're not just taking up space and payroll. They are re-making academia.
Calm the histrionics and name-calling. You’re already all frothed up.
I spent 25 years in higher ed and DEI officers are completely useless make-work jobs. They are part of the administrative bloat that leads to an and prices many young people out of college.
Calm the histrionics and name-calling. You’re already all frothed up.
I spent 25 years in higher ed and DEI officers are completely useless make-work jobs. They are part of the administrative bloat that leads to an and prices many young people out of college.
That is so white of you. The liar in the room who said American chattel slavery was better for blacks than being in Africa.
So according to you...being a piece of property is better than being free. Eventhough much of Sub Saharan Africa was colonized by the same evil whites. king leopold ii enslaved Africans in the Congo. Because of whites the population of Africa didn't grow for 200 years.
Only a habitual racist POS, weak ass little white boy liar, such as yourself would think that being enslaved by you is better than being free. Newsflash you dumb F! Your DNA and every humans DNA traces back to Ethiopia.
That is so white of you. The liar in the room who said American chattel slavery was better for blacks than being in Africa.
So according to you...being a piece of property is better than being free. Eventhough much of Sub Saharan Africa was colonized by the same evil whites. king leopold ii enslaved Africans in the Congo. Because of whites the population of Africa didn't grow for 200 years.
Only a habitual racist POS, weak ass little white boy liar, such as yourself would think that being enslaved by you is better than being free. Newsflash you dumb F! Your DNA and every humans DNA traces back to Ethiopia.
You've got serious race issues dude, get help immediately as you truly seem unhinged. Calling posters white boy shows just how racist and hateful you are.
That is so white of you. The liar in the room who said American chattel slavery was better for blacks than being in Africa.
So according to you...being a piece of property is better than being free. Eventhough much of Sub Saharan Africa was colonized by the same evil whites. king leopold ii enslaved Africans in the Congo. Because of whites the population of Africa didn't grow for 200 years.
Only a habitual racist POS, weak ass little white boy liar, such as yourself would think that being enslaved by you is better than being free. Newsflash you dumb F! Your DNA and every humans DNA traces back to Ethiopia.
I said it ended up being better for the ancestors of the slaves not the slaves themselves.
Apparently, people checked the list of examples given by the Florida board, and they found them to be nearly entirely wrong. Most of the people listed were NEVER even enslaved. One of the people listed was actually George Washington's (white) sister.
Well, that table shows some blacks indeed learned skills during slavery and benefited from those skills later on. If you can delete the dubious ones and add a couple better examples, that’s worth an A in African Studies.
mmmm, the table shows that out of 15 examples the Florida board gave, 12 were wildly incorrect. 3 of their examples were people who possibly learned skills they used later. So the Florida board gets a failing grade. And the people who learned skills? How many more of the enslaved people would have learned skills if they WERE NEVER ENSLAVED? And the fact that the Florida board included George Washington's sister on the list leaves me to suspect that they do not believe in this policy at all and they wanted to point out the inherent falsehood.
NOBODY IS SAYING SLAVERY WAS GOOD FOR SLAVES. THEY WERE POINTING OUT THAT SOME TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SKILLS THEY LEARNED WHILE ENSLAVED. I don't understand how anyone could be this stupid.
Go ahead, I'd like to hear what skills they learned that freed slaves would have taken advantage of.
I'm not going to give an entire history lesson, but you can read examples from the link I provided. Slaves were able to use trade skills they learned to earn money, improve their quality life, but their freedom, etc. I'm not sure why so many are trying to revise history by denying this happened.
The continent of Africa is one of the regions most rife with contemporary slavery. Slavery in Africa has a long history, within Africa since before historical records, but intensifying with the trans-Saharan and Indian Ocean...
Go ahead, I'd like to hear what skills they learned that freed slaves would have taken advantage of.
I'm not going to give an entire history lesson, but you can read examples from the link I provided. Slaves were able to use trade skills they learned to earn money, improve their quality life, but their freedom, etc. I'm not sure why so many are trying to revise history by denying this happened.
Ooooh, some of the enslaved people were able to buy their freedom? Taking advantage of the wonderful skills they learned while enslaved? Like working on a fishing boat? Seriously, I read through the account of Venture Smith you linked, and my takeaway is not that he learned skills. What stood out to me was that he endured beatings and worked very hard at whatever task he was given. Getting the 'opportunity' to negotiate to pay someone for your own freedom which was stolen from you? Or for the freedom of family members who had THEIR freedom stolen? That doesn't sound like opportunity. It sounds like being the victim of kidnapping and extortion.
In case you did not know, many slaves went back to their owners for work after the war. What did they know how to do? Pick cotton, clean the house, feed the livestock, etc. Newly-freed slaves had trouble finding work since few people (even in the North) wanted to hire them. Many of them went back to their plantations and asked for a job, and, of course, the plantation owners needed workers so they hired them. The received housing (albeit very bad cabins), food, and clothing but they could now come and go as they pleased. They did not need to work 12+ hours a day, seven days a week. They did not have to worry about being sold or having their family broken up by such sales. They could quit the job anytime they wanted. It was not a bad deal for them. Certainly better than going to Liberia or going to the North and being unemployed. They used their "skills for their personal benefit."
So basically, because their families were enslaved for generations and they only had very limited, specific skills to do slave-like jobs, once freed they had a single option for employment and had to return to their old life, now with a small amount of pay.
OR, perhaps if they weren’t enslaved in the first place, they might have had an opportunity for an actual education or acquisition of skills that would lead to more diverse employment opportunities.
If people of African decent were running the majority of corporations and swimming in wealth in the 20th century, this might have a lick of validity to it, but the fact that the opposite happened is enough to put your argument to bed.
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