Ghost of Igloi wrote:
You don't even know how to put a link in properly. Cry big Trumplican tears!!
Here's how you put in a link. Trump is going to prison.
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64% of Americans in a recent poll said Trump having those classified documents was "serious."
Trump and Trumplicans cry big tears!!!
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Do you Trumplican losers know that the recent Trump rally in PA devolved into chants of "lock her up!"
Delusion much?
Cry Trumplican tears!!!
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Cry Trumplican tears!!! Trump is going to prison!!! Biden is not!
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Wow you three are huge supporters of Biden's fund the police platform! Go Biden, you are wining even some on the far right.
Biden will tell whatever lie he thinks he needs to tell depending on who's standing in front of him.
Biden doesn't give a damn about anything but power and stealing money. Oh, and molesting his children.
Actually Biden has been and has spoken very consistently on this. He has NEVER been for defunding the police.
It okay for you to say that you are 100% in agreement with Biden on this point. Your world will not dissolve if you do that, I promise.
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Big Trump Tears wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
You don't even know how to put a link in properly. Cry big Trumplican tears!!
Here's how you put in a link. Trump is going to prison.
https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/05/screenshot_trumpbars_twitter_05192021.jpg
Trumpspeak:
"The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters, controlled by radical-left scoundrels, lawyers and the media, who tell them what to do," .......... "one of the most shocking abuses of power by any administration in American history,"
Trump lying and crying to stir up his cult to violence. Maybe he should have just returned the top secret documents that were never his and this very legal and proper search would not have had to happen. What a BABY! A man would have just admitted that he screwed and taken responsibility, up but Trump has NEVER been a man.
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SouthernmostIllini wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Bottom line: . . . the average Florida resident has a somewhat higher chance of being murdered than the average NYC resident and is somewhat less safe in that regard.
That’s not evident from the data. That only works if you consider crime in these two places to be homogeneous. It’s not and probably less homogeneous in Florida since crime is a local issue and you’re lumping the entire state together.
Okay, let's unpack this. I think we both agree that murder rates are generally going to be higher in cities than in rural or suburban areas. That's a settled proposition.
By definition (and reality), NYC is entirely urban; in contrast, the state of Florida comprises urban and suburban and exurban and rural areas. So, all else being equal, we should expect that an entirely urban polity should have a higher murder rate than a polity that includes the less-dangerous nonurban areas.
But evidently all is not equal. The state of Florida's murder rate is higher than New York City's, even though Florida's overall rate is tempered by the state's nonurban areas! That means that Florida's urban areas, which we agree will have higher murder rates than the rest of the state, must have much higher murder rates than NYC does.
Who runs Florida's two largest cities? Republican mayors. Who runs the state of Florida? A Republican governor and a legislature with Republican majorities in the State Senate and House.
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kibitzer wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
That’s not evident from the data. That only works if you consider crime in these two places to be homogeneous. It’s not and probably less homogeneous in Florida since crime is a local issue and you’re lumping the entire state together.
Okay, let's unpack this. I think we both agree that murder rates are generally going to be higher in cities than in rural or suburban areas. That's a settled proposition.
By definition (and reality), NYC is entirely urban; in contrast, the state of Florida comprises urban and suburban and exurban and rural areas. So, all else being equal, we should expect that an entirely urban polity should have a higher murder rate than a polity that includes the less-dangerous nonurban areas.
But evidently all is not equal. The state of Florida's murder rate is higher than New York City's, even though Florida's overall rate is tempered by the state's nonurban areas! That means that Florida's urban areas, which we agree will have higher murder rates than the rest of the state, must have much higher murder rates than NYC does.
Who runs Florida's two largest cities? Republican mayors. Who runs the state of Florida? A Republican governor and a legislature with Republican majorities in the State Senate and House.
I find this very hard to believe. Florida is much safer than NYC.
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ih8joe wrote:
I find this very hard to believe. Florida is much safer than NYC.
What does you finding something hard to believe have to do with anything?
There are these things called facts. Also, statistics. Here are a few.
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Murder Rate (/100,000 population) (2020)
Florida (State): 7.8
Jacksonville (FL) (R-mayor): 9.9
Miami (FL) (R-mayor): 7.5
New York (State): 4.7
New York (City): 4.1
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When confronted with facts that do not comport with your feelings/beliefs, what do you do?
A) Update your feelings/beliefs
b) Cover your eyes and ears and hope the facts will just go away
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ih8joe wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Okay, let's unpack this. I think we both agree that murder rates are generally going to be higher in cities than in rural or suburban areas. That's a settled proposition.
By definition (and reality), NYC is entirely urban; in contrast, the state of Florida comprises urban and suburban and exurban and rural areas. So, all else being equal, we should expect that an entirely urban polity should have a higher murder rate than a polity that includes the less-dangerous nonurban areas.
But evidently all is not equal. The state of Florida's murder rate is higher than New York City's, even though Florida's overall rate is tempered by the state's nonurban areas! That means that Florida's urban areas, which we agree will have higher murder rates than the rest of the state, must have much higher murder rates than NYC does.
Who runs Florida's two largest cities? Republican mayors. Who runs the state of Florida? A Republican governor and a legislature with Republican majorities in the State Senate and House.
I find this very hard to believe. Florida is much safer than NYC.
I was a little surprised too, but NYC is actually a very safe city. Gentrified to the gills
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Real Obvi wrote:
ih8joe wrote:
I find this very hard to believe. Florida is much safer than NYC.
What does you finding something hard to believe have to do with anything?
There are these things called facts. Also, statistics. Here are a few.
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Murder Rate (/100,000 population) (2020)
Florida (State): 7.8
Jacksonville (FL) (R-mayor): 9.9
Miami (FL) (R-mayor): 7.5
New York (State): 4.7
New York (City): 4.1
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When confronted with facts that do not comport with your feelings/beliefs, what do you do?
A) Update your feelings/beliefs
b) Cover your eyes and ears and hope the facts will just go away
Those totals seem pretty low. How many of these cities have Republican mayors?
The twenty cities in the United States with the highest murder rates (murders per 100,000 people) are:
St. Louis, MO (69.4)
Baltimore, MD (51.1)
New Orleans, LA (40.6)
Detroit, MI (39.7)
Cleveland, OH (33.7)
Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
Kansas City, MO (31.2)
Memphis, TN (27.1)
Newark, NJ (25.6)
Chicago, IL (24)
Cincinnati, OH (23.8)
Philadelphia, PA (20.2)
Milwaukee, WI (20.0)
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Conundrum wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Biden will tell whatever lie he thinks he needs to tell depending on who's standing in front of him.
Biden doesn't give a damn about anything but power and stealing money. Oh, and molesting his children.
Actually Biden has been and has spoken very consistently on this. He has NEVER been for defunding the police.
It okay for you to say that you are 100% in agreement with Biden on this point. Your world will not dissolve if you do that, I promise.
He's endorsed a million candidates who are openly for defunding the police and he's openly on the all cops are racist bandwagon.
The lie he's telling is that he's not for it because he knows decent Americans know the racist BLM BS he's peddling is garbage.
It's also irrelevant what diaper boy thinks he's got literally nothing to do with governing American. He's a puppet with a full diaper.
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ih8joe wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Okay, let's unpack this. I think we both agree that murder rates are generally going to be higher in cities than in rural or suburban areas. That's a settled proposition.
By definition (and reality), NYC is entirely urban; in contrast, the state of Florida comprises urban and suburban and exurban and rural areas. So, all else being equal, we should expect that an entirely urban polity should have a higher murder rate than a polity that includes the less-dangerous nonurban areas.
But evidently all is not equal. The state of Florida's murder rate is higher than New York City's, even though Florida's overall rate is tempered by the state's nonurban areas! That means that Florida's urban areas, which we agree will have higher murder rates than the rest of the state, must have much higher murder rates than NYC does.
Who runs Florida's two largest cities? Republican mayors. Who runs the state of Florida? A Republican governor and a legislature with Republican majorities in the State Senate and House.
I find this very hard to believe. Florida is much safer than NYC.
Oh, those pesky "fact" thingies!
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Conundrum wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Biden will tell whatever lie he thinks he needs to tell depending on who's standing in front of him.
Biden doesn't give a damn about anything but power and stealing money. Oh, and molesting his children.
Actually Biden has been and has spoken very consistently on this. He has NEVER been for defunding the police.
It okay for you to say that you are 100% in agreement with Biden on this point. Your world will not dissolve if you do that, I promise.
Yes, great for Biden but unfortunately he doesn't control the budget in cities like mine that continue to cut police funding
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Sally Vixxxxxxxxxxxens wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
What does you finding something hard to believe have to do with anything?
There are these things called facts. Also, statistics. Here are a few.
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Murder Rate (/100,000 population) (2020)
Florida (State): 7.8
Jacksonville (FL) (R-mayor): 9.9
Miami (FL) (R-mayor): 7.5
New York (State): 4.7
New York (City): 4.1
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When confronted with facts that do not comport with your feelings/beliefs, what do you do?
A) Update your feelings/beliefs
b) Cover your eyes and ears and hope the facts will just go away
Those totals seem pretty low. How many of these cities have Republican mayors?
The twenty cities in the United States with the highest murder rates (murders per 100,000 people) are:
St. Louis, MO (69.4)
Baltimore, MD (51.1)
New Orleans, LA (40.6)
Detroit, MI (39.7)
Cleveland, OH (33.7)
Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
Kansas City, MO (31.2)
Memphis, TN (27.1)
Newark, NJ (25.6)
Chicago, IL (24)
Cincinnati, OH (23.8)
Philadelphia, PA (20.2)
Milwaukee, WI (20.0)
Tulsa, OK (18.6)St. Louis is 44% African-American.
Baltimore is 62% African-American.
New Orleans is 54% African-American.
Detroit is 77% African-American.
Cleveland is 48% African-American.
African-Americans make up 13% of the US population.
African-Americans commit 52% of the murders in the US.
NYC's population is 20% African-American.
This affects murder rates in cities whether it hurts people's feelings are not.
Over 90% of African-Americans vote for Democrats.
It flies in the face of simple logic and reason to pretend that Democrats aren't responsible for most of the murder in the USA.
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Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Keep crying big Trumplican tears!!! We're glad we voted in Biden and voted out Trump, so keep on crying!!!
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Actually Biden has been and has spoken very consistently on this. He has NEVER been for defunding the police.
It okay for you to say that you are 100% in agreement with Biden on this point. Your world will not dissolve if you do that, I promise.
He's endorsed a million candidates who are openly for defunding the police and he's openly on the all cops are racist bandwagon.
The lie he's telling is that he's not for it because he knows decent Americans know the racist BLM BS he's peddling is garbage.
It's also irrelevant what diaper boy thinks he's got literally nothing to do with governing American. He's a puppet with a full diaper.
Such BS. Biden has never supported defunding the Police, even when it was a current rallying cry from a small minority that is no more. You are an ass and a moron, and a racist I see from another post you made. God will ask you one day why you didn't love all of his children. Go to hell.
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