Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

DiscoGary wrote:

One thing is certain, liberals are scared to DEATH that Trump will find a way to make lasting peace with a denuked NK. That is their worst nightmare. It will be hard to spin that one as a negative or to give credit to Obama. They'll try, but it won't work and they know it already.

To suggest any American believes the worst outcome of a nuclear weapons discussion is a verifiable peace deal is seriously messed up.

I am very happy to hear that even the rats in the Maze are gainfully employed.

But everyone knows what success looks like. NK heads toward denuking and allows inspections. Kim does not get stronger or more threatening. Kim begins reforming his horrible human rights record. NK starts to open up and become a reasonable world player. I give this outcome about 60% chance.

We all know what failure looks like too because that's all we've seen in the past. Kim is given stuff with no positive movement at all, while everything he gets makes him stronger and more dangerous. I put this at less than 1% chance.

Then there's that status quo where Trump doesn't like what he sees and walks away. I put it at 39% chance.

So I'm betting something good comes out of it.

L L wrote:

So what is expected from this meeting with the Koreans?

My guess, any deal that is reached from this summit will probably need to be ratified by Congress. Will the dems go along or will they resist if Chuck & Nancy put the kibosh on it? That is the question. I predict if the dems resist, it will be a guaranteed mid-term election disaster for them.

Monkeys typing wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

One thing is certain, liberals are scared to DEATH that Trump will find a way to make lasting peace with a denuked NK. That is their worst nightmare. It will be hard to spin that one as a negative or to give credit to Obama. They'll try, but it won't work and they know it already.

To suggest any American believes the worst outcome of a nuclear weapons discussion is a verifiable peace deal is seriously messed up.

... and THAT is why it is a liberal's worst nightmare, because there is no way you can be seen to be publicly against it! You will HAVE to support it, and you will have to give credit to Trump. But you can't give any credit to Trump for anything because you've been saying that he's Hitler, and Hitler doesn't get credit for good things, so the cognitive dissonance will lead to nightmares.

Monkeys typing wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

One thing is certain, liberals are scared to DEATH that Trump will find a way to make lasting peace with a denuked NK. That is their worst nightmare. It will be hard to spin that one as a negative or to give credit to Obama. They'll try, but it won't work and they know it already.

To suggest any American believes the worst outcome of a nuclear weapons discussion is a verifiable peace deal is seriously messed up.

Oh, and Bill Maher is publicly hoping for a recession to get rid of Trump, so yes, there are Americans hoping that America suffers just so they can hurt Trump.

Gary, that does not reflect how most liberals or Americans feel. I did not wish for thousands to die in Iraq and Afghanistan to make Bush look bad and unsuccessful. I don't know anyone who wishes for a catastrophe just because they don't like the other side. Where do you draw that sentiment from??? You are stopping to new lows and reaching with that one. But to counter your Bill Maher comment, Trump has publicly wished for a shutdown to hurt Dems and for Russia to weaken his political opponent - is that good for our country?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

L L wrote:

So what is expected from this meeting with the Koreans?

My guess, any deal that is reached from this summit will probably need to be ratified by Congress. Will the dems go along or will they resist if Chuck & Nancy put the kibosh on it? That is the question. I predict if the dems resist, it will be a guaranteed mid-term election disaster for them.

So you expect Democrats to block and obstruct whatever they can since the Republicans did that under Obama.

That's fair.

But what about the question - what do you expect Trump will get out of this?

DiscoGary wrote:

Oh, and Bill Maher is publicly hoping for a recession to get rid of Trump, so yes, there are Americans hoping that America suffers just so they can hurt Trump.

The Trump Blinders are welded on tight on DG.

Typical Gary logic. One commentator/entertainer says something and he lumps 50% of the country into that camp.

Only an idiot, moron, imbecile would go with that and there goes Gary.

Trollminator wrote:

Gary, that does not reflect how most liberals or Americans feel. I did not wish for thousands to die in Iraq and Afghanistan to make Bush look bad and unsuccessful. I don't know anyone who wishes for a catastrophe just because they don't like the other side. Where do you draw that sentiment from??? You are stopping to new lows and reaching with that one. But to counter your Bill Maher comment, Trump has publicly wished for a shutdown to hurt Dems and for Russia to weaken his political opponent - is that good for our country?

Bad example. The MSM tried everything they could to make us lose in Iraq and Afghanistan from portraying our soldiers as torturing monsters to undermining our intelligence conclusions to the nightly body count numbers. Every report was designed to depress the morale of the US and our military and to downplay any successes we had - which directly encouraged our enemies and led to the deaths of Americans and prolonged the suffering of everyone over there.

So yes. Absolutely yes. The liberal MSM, academia, Democrat leadership, and Harveywood ALL worked against the US just to score political points on GWB and drive his poll numbers down. It was the most shameless inexcusable example of craven political hackery I've ever seen, and much of it bordered on treasonous. So it's not much of a stretch to think that liberals would hope for a Trump fail in NK just to score points on Trump no matter what the consequences are. It's no stretch at all.

DiscoGary wrote:

Monkeys typing wrote:

To suggest any American believes the worst outcome of a nuclear weapons discussion is a verifiable peace deal is seriously messed up.

Oh, and Bill Maher is publicly hoping for a recession to get rid of Trump, so yes, there are Americans hoping that America suffers just so they can hurt Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/09/opinions/bill-maher-recession-obeidallah/index.html

So in support of your broad condemnation of liberals you link a CNN opinion contributor who is no Trump fan going hard against Maher's ill considered comment?

If you're simply trolling the boards, the touch of irony is quite clever.

The idea that GWB needed any help from the media to bring down his numbers is laughable. I'm sure if wasn't for the media, he would have been so loved despite the fact the housing market got annihilated, the fact war in Iraq was shown to be a total disaster (which allies warned exactly would happen), and the fact war in Afghanistan was totally unwinnable. Oh and fun fact : we're still at war with Afghanistan 17 years later!

L L wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

My guess, any deal that is reached from this summit will probably need to be ratified by Congress. Will the dems go along or will they resist if Chuck & Nancy put the kibosh on it? That is the question. I predict if the dems resist, it will be a guaranteed mid-term election disaster for them.

So you expect Democrats to block and obstruct whatever they can since the Republicans did that under Obama.

That's fair.

But what about the question - what do you expect Trump will get out of this?

In a best case scenario- NK agrees to dismantle their nuclear program with verification and complete access to their stockpile. Will it happen? No way, Kim Jong Un will never give that up, willingly.

A more realistic scenario is that NK agrees to halt future nuclear weapons testing & missile launches- I think that is doable & that would be "yuuuge." In return, Trump can agree to reduce our American military presence in South Korea- but only if NK complies with their concessions with verification, first. I expect if the summit goes well, their will be future talks and perhaps a second summit to further the process. Either scenario is a win/win for Trump.

The worst case scenario is the summit being cut short with either Kim Jong Un or Trump leaving the talks early without any new agreements put into play.

F'you TRUMP! YOU LOOSER!!!

http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/11/news/economy/federal-reserve-interest-rates/index.html

Well liberals had their chance to stand with GWB and America in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they chose to undermine GWB and America.

If Trump makes dramatic progress then liberals will be tested again. Will they side with Trump and America, or try to undermine the progress and work to destabilize NK? Based on what I've seen, there is simply no way liberals can support a Trump success and portray it as such in the public domain. It's a law of physics. It can't happen. So I have to go with the GWB/Iraq template and assume that they will actively undermine any success, but dayam, that should come with a really high price, but then undermining GWB worked and got them Obama which means they got away with it, so yeah, I go with Democrat treason in the case of Trump success in NK. That's my call.

Let's see what happens.

Completely daft and false. But you are so biased that you wouldn’t know white from black from gray. Just one tone. You need to go. Take a vacation, fool!

As for sanctions, they remain in place. Trump doesn't budge on them until NK agrees & follows through to our conditions.

It took about a week to win the war in Afghanistan. You see, you're still stuck in the MSM spin cycle from over 10 years ago. Still stuck in the Maze. It's amazing how the Big Lie works so well.