TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Why is this thread still a thing when the cackling moron's political career is over?
Because people keep posting in it.
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fjb wrote:
agip wrote:
we take vaccines partly for other people. To establish herd immunity. To stop the disease from racing through the human herd and killing people. Because not everyone can/will take the vaccine and not everyone will survive the disease even if vaccinated.
That's how all this works. The army forces vaccinations so the unit will stay healthy and not get knocked down with, say, smallpox. Same for the general population.
Do you all really not know this? Where do you get your news and information?
There have been zero widespread, actually communicable, and actually deadly diseases in first world countries in the 21st century (I don't count tuberculosis spread by migrants as this). Covid is just a cold for healthy people. My roughly 65 year old, healthy and then unvaccinated parents, both had it and it was like a slightly more severe cold for them. We didn't lock down for normal colds and we sure as hell shouldn't have locked down for covid.
The smallpox vaccine is actually both safe and effective. The covid jab did nothing. I'm vaccinated for polio because it's an actually severe disease.
ok I'll bite why not
covid killed 1.2 million people in the US
and 1.3 million in Europe.
Let's hear your view of why COVID wasn't a widespread deadly disease.
AND KEEP IN MIND ALWAYS THAT REPUBLICANS DIED IN FAR HIGHER PROPORTIONS THAN DEMOCRATS AFTER THE VACCINES CAME OUT. BECAUSE TRUMPIES ARE IDIOTS AND REFUSED TO GET VACCINATED.
I must be some kind of masochist to even talk to you about this. But's let's hear it.
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Ghost of gibraltor wrote:
Ghost of ER wrote:
This appears to be a key phrase. It may become epochal going forward.
If you put out a 100 question test about Trumps impeachments, criminal and civil cases, and his business fraud cases, 75 % of the country would flunk it so badly that you wouldn’t believe they live in the US.
A similar test with 3-5 questions put to the MAG@s on this thread has already been flunked multiple times. They seem to have no knowledge of the things they think they are against.
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breit leit wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:wWhy is this thread still a thiang when the cackling moron's political career is over?
Because people keep posting in it.
The Dems have nothing else. They are despondent that Kamala lost and how big she lost by. They have nothing else to cry about. Trump is president. The House are majority Republican. The Senate is majority Republican. The SC is 6-3 conservative. The Dems have nothing. They squandered what they had the last 4 years. The adults are in charge now and the Dems can sit back and watch a higly functioning government.
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Sally Vix wrote:
breit leit wrote:
Because people keep posting in it.
The Dems have nothing else.
You might have a point if it was just Dems posting/bumping the thread. But here in reality that is not the case.
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Ghost of ER wrote:
Ghost of gibraltor wrote:
If you put out a 100 question test about Trumps impeachments, criminal and civil cases, and his business fraud cases, 75 % of the country would flunk it so badly that you wouldn’t believe they live in the US.
A similar test with 3-5 questions put to the MAG@s on this thread has already been flunked multiple times. They seem to have no knowledge of the things they think they are against.
The cases were lawfare. I don't care that he labeled payments to a lawyer as "legal fees". Nor do I (nor the alleged "victim" - Deutsche Bank) care about the property valuation sham case.
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agip wrote:
fjb wrote:
There have been zero widespread, actually communicable, and actually deadly diseases in first world countries in the 21st century (I don't count tuberculosis spread by migrants as this). Covid is just a cold for healthy people. My roughly 65 year old, healthy and then unvaccinated parents, both had it and it was like a slightly more severe cold for them. We didn't lock down for normal colds and we sure as hell shouldn't have locked down for covid.
The smallpox vaccine is actually both safe and effective. The covid jab did nothing. I'm vaccinated for polio because it's an actually severe disease.
ok I'll bite why not
covid killed 1.2 million people in the US
and 1.3 million in Europe.
Let's hear your view of why COVID wasn't a widespread deadly disease.
AND KEEP IN MIND ALWAYS THAT REPUBLICANS DIED IN FAR HIGHER PROPORTIONS THAN DEMOCRATS AFTER THE VACCINES CAME OUT. BECAUSE TRUMPIES ARE IDIOTS AND REFUSED TO GET VACCINATED.
I must be some kind of masochist to even talk to you about this. But's let's hear it.
70% of Americans are obese / overweight. Of the remaining 30%, a TON are unhealthy as well. According to a BMI calculator I found, at my height of 5'11, 178 pounds is the upper edge of normal weight, and 214 is at the edge of obesity. But clearly 178 pounds for someone 5'11" is overweight. So maybe only 10% of Americans are actually healthy.
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Sally Vix wrote:
breit leit wrote:
Because people keep posting in it.
The Dems have nothing else. They are despondent that Kamala lost and how big she lost by. They have nothing else to cry about. Trump is president. The House are majority Republican. The Senate is majority Republican. The SC is 6-3 conservative. The Dems have nothing. They squandered what they had the last 4 years. The adults are in charge now and the Dems can sit back and watch a higly functioning government.
This is the correct answer.
They’ll never admit it, but the next four years are going to turn out great for them personally. The GOP policies will benefit them financially and America will be on the right track socially. They’ll WANT Trump to run for another term.21 -
breit leit wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The Dems have nothing else.
You might have a point if it was just Dems posting/bumping the thread. But here in reality that is not the case.
Reality doesn't count.
It's Sally's feelings that matter.
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fjb wrote:
agip wrote:
ok I'll bite why not
covid killed 1.2 million people in the US
and 1.3 million in Europe.
Let's hear your view of why COVID wasn't a widespread deadly disease.
AND KEEP IN MIND ALWAYS THAT REPUBLICANS DIED IN FAR HIGHER PROPORTIONS THAN DEMOCRATS AFTER THE VACCINES CAME OUT. BECAUSE TRUMPIES ARE IDIOTS AND REFUSED TO GET VACCINATED.
I must be some kind of masochist to even talk to you about this. But's let's hear it.
70% of Americans are obese / overweight. Of the remaining 30%, a TON are unhealthy as well. According to a BMI calculator I found, at my height of 5'11, 178 pounds is the upper edge of normal weight, and 214 is at the edge of obesity. But clearly 178 pounds for someone 5'11" is overweight. So maybe only 10% of Americans are actually healthy.
So, what you seem to be saying is that, when it comes to 90% of Americans, their deaths not only don't matter, but their deaths simply don't count at all.
Interesting viewpoint
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Red State Blue State wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The Dems have nothing else. They are despondent that Kamala lost and how big she lost by. They have nothing else to cry about. Trump is president. The House are majority Republican. The Senate is majority Republican. The SC is 6-3 conservative. The Dems have nothing. They squandered what they had the last 4 years. The adults are in charge now and the Dems can sit back and watch a higly functioning government.
This is the correct answer.
They’ll never admit it, but the next four years are going to turn out great for them personally. The GOP policies will benefit them financially and America will be on the right track socially. They’ll WANT Trump to run for another term.
believe it or not, every R president for a generation has led us into recession
trump's first admin included. No dem prez has had a recession since carter.
and also believe it or not, Dems do not approve of coup attempts. Or absolute corruption and incompetence. Or being lied to every day and twice on sunday. or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. . or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. or who give national secrets to russia. Or who ask for and accept illegal campaign help from russia. Or who were impeached twice for awful things.
No idea why you approve of these things but you shouldn't.
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agip wrote:
fjb wrote:
People speeding will affect others. Just like how unsafe food will. Not taking a vaccine is a personal medical decision based in freedom. As a libertarian I don't think any vaccines should be mandatory.
Edit - I personally don't care much about abortion either if you're going to try to use that as a point. I live in a blue state where it stayed legal after roe was overturned. if I lived in a red state it'd have been illegal. But overturning Roe just sent it back to the states to decide
we take vaccines partly for other people. To establish herd immunity. To stop the disease from racing through the human herd and killing people. Because not everyone can/will take the vaccine and not everyone will survive the disease even if vaccinated.
That's how all this works. The army forces vaccinations so the unit will stay healthy and not get knocked down with, say, smallpox. Same for the general population.
Do you all really not know this? Where do you get your news and information?
This is where your coastal liberal elite siloed biases begin to assert themselves. With a “normal” vaccine that actually does as advertised against a real scourge that indiscriminately takes out everyone, you’d have a bit of a point.
Covid has known risk cohorts that were known very early. Even among the non-elderly, non-sickly, most of the young who were adversely impacted were obese or had another major susceptibility. So herd immunity with this disease was a different strategy than with others.
Moreover, the mRNA vaccine scripted for a very antigenic (immunotoxic) S protein fragment that a recent Cell article published out of Stanford showed could live in germinal centers in the lymph nodes for up to 60+ days. So much for the “wait until I tell you how long the virus can last!” crowd. The former head of the CDC during COVID, an infectious disease guy, will only give the Novavax Covid booster now because of this. Moreover, the payload was placed in a lipid nanoparticle without target specificity that could deliver it anywhere in the body, brain, heart, reproductive organs, bone etc.
And the final and best point is that natural immunity is just as effective as vaccine-induced immunity, probably better even as its broader (recent studies have shown that people taking the most recent iteration of the booster are more susceptible to getting infected (immune imprinting, immune tolerance via IgG4, immune dysfunction, I have no idea). So natural immunity, ONCE cultivated is just as much a piece of community immunity as a “completely” vaxxed person, to make very little mention of the medical autonomy people are entitled to when we are talking about injecting a very novel, unvetted pharmacological agent into their bodies. Furthermore, we had remedies that could help mitigate the illness for those who either couldn’t or wouldn’t get vaccinated. Dr. Richard Urso was a pioneer of some of this early protocol, but of course he must just be a “nutter.” He saved a lot of lives. I could go on. I won’t. Your analogies fall flat, but you believed the Emperor with no clothes.
However, if you are realizing that the Covid totalitarianism and censorship and fear porn promoted by the mass (left) media was a catalyst for Trump getting re-elected, you’re correct! Along with the border insurrection inflamed by the Biden Administration and the ill advised coup that came a year too late. You should put down NYT and WaPo. I’m serious. If that is your world and you want that for America, then you should move to Denmark.
Btw, I was with you on Gaetz, and I think a much better person got the job. And I’m with you on Hegseth, especially as far as character, even as you probably wouldn’t like DeSantis either. But the point about Hegseth isn’t about Hegseth. It’s about Trump not succumbing to the Establishment that neutered him the first time around. And I get it. I don’t have to like it or agree with it, but I get it, especially with the absolute condescension and lack of humility libs bring every day here. I wish you guys could see it. Imagine thinking, “well it must be as simple as all Trump voters are uneducated Appalachia white folk.”
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Real Obvi wrote:
fjb wrote:
70% of Americans are obese / overweight. Of the remaining 30%, a TON are unhealthy as well. According to a BMI calculator I found, at my height of 5'11, 178 pounds is the upper edge of normal weight, and 214 is at the edge of obesity. But clearly 178 pounds for someone 5'11" is overweight. So maybe only 10% of Americans are actually healthy.
So, what you seem to be saying is that, when it comes to 90% of Americans, their deaths not only don't matter, but their deaths simply don't count at all.
Interesting viewpoint
Yes. It's just like "gun violence". 54% are suicides, while 43% are murder - the vast majority of which is gang violence. If neither of those apply to you, the US is virtually as safe as any country in the world.
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Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
agip wrote:
we take vaccines partly for other people. To establish herd immunity. To stop the disease from racing through the human herd and killing people. Because not everyone can/will take the vaccine and not everyone will survive the disease even if vaccinated.
That's how all this works. The army forces vaccinations so the unit will stay healthy and not get knocked down with, say, smallpox. Same for the general population.
Do you all really not know this? Where do you get your news and information?
This is where your coastal liberal elite siloed biases begin to assert themselves. With a “normal” vaccine that actually does as advertised against a real scourge that indiscriminately takes out everyone, you’d have a bit of a point.
Covid has known risk cohorts that were known very early. Even among the non-elderly, non-sickly, most of the young who were adversely impacted were obese or had another major susceptibility. So herd immunity with this disease was a different strategy than with others.
Moreover, the mRNA vaccine scripted for a very antigenic (immunotoxic) S protein fragment that a recent Cell article published out of Stanford showed could live in germinal centers in the lymph nodes for up to 60+ days. So much for the “wait until I tell you how long the virus can last!” crowd. The former head of the CDC during COVID, an infectious disease guy, will only give the Novavax Covid booster now because of this. Moreover, the payload was placed in a lipid nanoparticle without target specificity that could deliver it anywhere in the body, brain, heart, reproductive organs, bone etc.
And the final and best point is that natural immunity is just as effective as vaccine-induced immunity, probably better even as its broader (recent studies have shown that people taking the most recent iteration of the booster are more susceptible to getting infected (immune imprinting, immune tolerance via IgG4, immune dysfunction, I have no idea). So natural immunity, ONCE cultivated is just as much a piece of community immunity as a “completely” vaxxed person, to make very little mention of the medical autonomy people are entitled to when we are talking about injecting a very novel, unvetted pharmacological agent into their bodies. Furthermore, we had remedies that could help mitigate the illness for those who either couldn’t or wouldn’t get vaccinated. Dr. Richard Urso was a pioneer of some of this early protocol, but of course he must just be a “nutter.” He saved a lot of lives. I could go on. I won’t. Your analogies fall flat, but you believed the Emperor with no clothes.
However, if you are realizing that the Covid totalitarianism and censorship and fear porn promoted by the mass (left) media was a catalyst for Trump getting re-elected, you’re correct! Along with the border insurrection inflamed by the Biden Administration and the ill advised coup that came a year too late. You should put down NYT and WaPo. I’m serious. If that is your world and you want that for America, then you should move to Denmark.
Btw, I was with you on Gaetz, and I think a much better person got the job. And I’m with you on Hegseth, especially as far as character, even as you probably wouldn’t like DeSantis either. But the point about Hegseth isn’t about Hegseth. It’s about Trump not succumbing to the Establishment that neutered him the first time around. And I get it. I don’t have to like it or agree with it, but I get it, especially with the absolute condescension and lack of humility libs bring every day here. I wish you guys could see it. Imagine thinking, “well it must be as simple as all Trump voters are uneducated Appalachia white folk.”
Exactly!
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Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
agip wrote:
we take vaccines partly for other people. To establish herd immunity. To stop the disease from racing through the human herd and killing people. Because not everyone can/will take the vaccine and not everyone will survive the disease even if vaccinated.
That's how all this works. The army forces vaccinations so the unit will stay healthy and not get knocked down with, say, smallpox. Same for the general population.
Do you all really not know this? Where do you get your news and information?
This is where your coastal liberal elite siloed biases begin to assert themselves. With a “normal” vaccine that actually does as advertised against a real scourge that indiscriminately takes out everyone, you’d have a bit of a point.
Covid has known risk cohorts that were known very early. Even among the non-elderly, non-sickly, most of the young who were adversely impacted were obese or had another major susceptibility. So herd immunity with this disease was a different strategy than with others.
Moreover, the mRNA vaccine scripted for a very antigenic (immunotoxic) S protein fragment that a recent Cell article published out of Stanford showed could live in germinal centers in the lymph nodes for up to 60+ days. So much for the “wait until I tell you how long the virus can last!” crowd. The former head of the CDC during COVID, an infectious disease guy, will only give the Novavax Covid booster now because of this. Moreover, the payload was placed in a lipid nanoparticle without target specificity that could deliver it anywhere in the body, brain, heart, reproductive organs, bone etc.
And the final and best point is that natural immunity is just as effective as vaccine-induced immunity, probably better even as its broader (recent studies have shown that people taking the most recent iteration of the booster are more susceptible to getting infected (immune imprinting, immune tolerance via IgG4, immune dysfunction, I have no idea). So natural immunity, ONCE cultivated is just as much a piece of community immunity as a “completely” vaxxed person, to make very little mention of the medical autonomy people are entitled to when we are talking about injecting a very novel, unvetted pharmacological agent into their bodies. Furthermore, we had remedies that could help mitigate the illness for those who either couldn’t or wouldn’t get vaccinated. Dr. Richard Urso was a pioneer of some of this early protocol, but of course he must just be a “nutter.” He saved a lot of lives. I could go on. I won’t. Your analogies fall flat, but you believed the Emperor with no clothes.
However, if you are realizing that the Covid totalitarianism and censorship and fear porn promoted by the mass (left) media was a catalyst for Trump getting re-elected, you’re correct! Along with the border insurrection inflamed by the Biden Administration and the ill advised coup that came a year too late. You should put down NYT and WaPo. I’m serious. If that is your world and you want that for America, then you should move to Denmark.
Btw, I was with you on Gaetz, and I think a much better person got the job. And I’m with you on Hegseth, especially as far as character, even as you probably wouldn’t like DeSantis either. But the point about Hegseth isn’t about Hegseth. It’s about Trump not succumbing to the Establishment that neutered him the first time around. And I get it. I don’t have to like it or agree with it, but I get it, especially with the absolute condescension and lack of humility libs bring every day here. I wish you guys could see it. Imagine thinking, “well it must be as simple as all Trump voters are uneducated Appalachia white folk.”
ah yes the holy grail of natural immunity.
the Rs tried to get natural immunity and it was a bloodbath. Dems used vaccines and had fewer deaths.
Sorry to hear that you wanted more deaths by following republican dictates. I'd rather save my life and others, thanks.
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agip wrote:
Red State Blue State wrote:
This is the correct answer.
They’ll never admit it, but the next four years are going to turn out great for them personally. The GOP policies will benefit them financially and America will be on the right track socially. They’ll WANT Trump to run for another term.
believe it or not, every R president for a generation has led us into recession
trump's first admin included. No dem prez has had a recession since carter.
and also believe it or not, Dems do not approve of coup attempts. Or absolute corruption and incompetence. Or being lied to every day and twice on sunday. or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. . or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. or who give national secrets to russia. Or who ask for and accept illegal campaign help from russia. Or who were impeached twice for awful things.
No idea why you approve of these things but you shouldn't.
It’s likely to happen again. A blanket statement about how the economy/stocks always do better under a Dem is an incredibly shallow but oft-used platitude of the left. This comment is always made without reference to current monetary policy, fiscal policy, Congressional makeup, or where we are in the business cycle. Biden is not leaving nearly the rosy picture you pretend it to be. Everyone should read this, especially Trumpers.
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Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
agip wrote:
believe it or not, every R president for a generation has led us into recession
trump's first admin included. No dem prez has had a recession since carter.
and also believe it or not, Dems do not approve of coup attempts. Or absolute corruption and incompetence. Or being lied to every day and twice on sunday. or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. . or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. or who give national secrets to russia. Or who ask for and accept illegal campaign help from russia. Or who were impeached twice for awful things.
No idea why you approve of these things but you shouldn't.
It’s likely to happen again. A blanket statement about how the economy/stocks always do better under a Dem is an incredibly shallow but oft-used platitude of the left. This comment is always made without reference to current monetary policy, fiscal policy, Congressional makeup, or where we are in the business cycle. Biden is not leaving nearly the rosy picture you pretend it to be. Everyone should read this, especially Trumpers.
And. Doesn’t look great for Trump.
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5025207-biden-leaves-mess-for-trump/
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Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
agip wrote:
believe it or not, every R president for a generation has led us into recession
trump's first admin included. No dem prez has had a recession since carter.
and also believe it or not, Dems do not approve of coup attempts. Or absolute corruption and incompetence. Or being lied to every day and twice on sunday. or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. . or being led by degenerates. Or wild nepotism. or who give national secrets to russia. Or who ask for and accept illegal campaign help from russia. Or who were impeached twice for awful things.
No idea why you approve of these things but you shouldn't.
It’s likely to happen again. A blanket statement about how the economy/stocks always do better under a Dem is an incredibly shallow but oft-used platitude of the left. This comment is always made without reference to current monetary policy, fiscal policy, Congressional makeup, or where we are in the business cycle. Biden is not leaving nearly the rosy picture you pretend it to be. Everyone should read this, especially Trumpers.
dude we're in a boom.
full employment, medium low inflation, stock market at all time highs, GDP growing a remarkavble 3%, the US doing markedly better than its peers, dollar strong, etc
You can't spin it bad. This is as good as it gets economically. Just like all R admins, they get handed a strong economy and proceed to wreck it, handing back a disaster to the Dems.
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agip wrote:
Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
It’s likely to happen again. A blanket statement about how the economy/stocks always do better under a Dem is an incredibly shallow but oft-used platitude of the left. This comment is always made without reference to current monetary policy, fiscal policy, Congressional makeup, or where we are in the business cycle. Biden is not leaving nearly the rosy picture you pretend it to be. Everyone should read this, especially Trumpers.
dude we're in a boom.
full employment, medium low inflation, stock market at all time highs, GDP growing a remarkavble 3%, the US doing markedly better than its peers, dollar strong, etc
You can't spin it bad. This is as good as it gets economically. Just like all R admins, they get handed a strong economy and proceed to wreck it, handing back a disaster to the Dems.
We are ripe for a “pullback.” Secular inflation tailwinds cultivated by the overstimulus post-Covid era still exist, M2 money supply & velocity is falling (not good), Biden is doing scorched Earth spending on his way out, and the massive budget deficit has been enabled by borrowing at the very short end of the curve so as not to overwhelm the market with 10-year Treasury supply (which would cause rates and mortgage rates to go higher) that will have to be refinanced at much higher rates. But, since you need the narrative to be, but Trump 👆, it will be because the baton is being dropped as we speak. Oh, the market is incredibly overvalued to at 23x earnings. People are dumb.
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agip wrote:
Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
This is where your coastal liberal elite siloed biases begin to assert themselves. With a “normal” vaccine that actually does as advertised against a real scourge that indiscriminately takes out everyone, you’d have a bit of a point.
Covid has known risk cohorts that were known very early. Even among the non-elderly, non-sickly, most of the young who were adversely impacted were obese or had another major susceptibility. So herd immunity with this disease was a different strategy than with others.
Moreover, the mRNA vaccine scripted for a very antigenic (immunotoxic) S protein fragment that a recent Cell article published out of Stanford showed could live in germinal centers in the lymph nodes for up to 60+ days. So much for the “wait until I tell you how long the virus can last!” crowd. The former head of the CDC during COVID, an infectious disease guy, will only give the Novavax Covid booster now because of this. Moreover, the payload was placed in a lipid nanoparticle without target specificity that could deliver it anywhere in the body, brain, heart, reproductive organs, bone etc.
And the final and best point is that natural immunity is just as effective as vaccine-induced immunity, probably better even as its broader (recent studies have shown that people taking the most recent iteration of the booster are more susceptible to getting infected (immune imprinting, immune tolerance via IgG4, immune dysfunction, I have no idea). So natural immunity, ONCE cultivated is just as much a piece of community immunity as a “completely” vaxxed person, to make very little mention of the medical autonomy people are entitled to when we are talking about injecting a very novel, unvetted pharmacological agent into their bodies. Furthermore, we had remedies that could help mitigate the illness for those who either couldn’t or wouldn’t get vaccinated. Dr. Richard Urso was a pioneer of some of this early protocol, but of course he must just be a “nutter.” He saved a lot of lives. I could go on. I won’t. Your analogies fall flat, but you believed the Emperor with no clothes.
However, if you are realizing that the Covid totalitarianism and censorship and fear porn promoted by the mass (left) media was a catalyst for Trump getting re-elected, you’re correct! Along with the border insurrection inflamed by the Biden Administration and the ill advised coup that came a year too late. You should put down NYT and WaPo. I’m serious. If that is your world and you want that for America, then you should move to Denmark.
Btw, I was with you on Gaetz, and I think a much better person got the job. And I’m with you on Hegseth, especially as far as character, even as you probably wouldn’t like DeSantis either. But the point about Hegseth isn’t about Hegseth. It’s about Trump not succumbing to the Establishment that neutered him the first time around. And I get it. I don’t have to like it or agree with it, but I get it, especially with the absolute condescension and lack of humility libs bring every day here. I wish you guys could see it. Imagine thinking, “well it must be as simple as all Trump voters are uneducated Appalachia white folk.”
ah yes the holy grail of natural immunity.
the Rs tried to get natural immunity and it was a bloodbath. Dems used vaccines and had fewer deaths.
Sorry to hear that you wanted more deaths by following republican dictates. I'd rather save my life and others, thanks.
Stop being a primadonna. Nobody wanted anybody dead, and there was never a Republican dictate, nor cough, cough, mandate. A large majority of those people were extremely overweight with metabolic syndrome, making them sitting ducks as that was a known vulnerability to Covid. They should've been vaccinated, fatties with metabolic syndrome, you'll get no argument from me or anyone really. But, we still had effective therapies for those who couldn't or wouldn't.
Impressive that the only thing you could respond to was natural immunity. However, for those who did, in fact, cultivate it, like myself and family and friends, it should've been recognized by our Democratic leadership, instead of trotting out stupid and narrow studies like the one in Kentucky trying to suggest breakthrough infection was far more common in the unvaccinated. Just dumb.
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