Bashfulllll wrote:
So with vastly superior experience, results, etc I cannot get an interview as a while male, while at Ohio for example they offered five women before they got one to take the job.
What are the odds that the 5 most qualified applicants were women? ZERO. You should sue for gender discrimination.
Seems admins are trying to get their xc/tf staff to be a bit more diverse instead of an entire staff of one gender or particular ethnicity...
Maybe you had a typo on your documents reason why your app didn't get past HR, or you didn't have enough buzz words in your app to move you up a few spaces...who knows, maybe your reputation didn't get you the job, you never know ...
Try getting hired as a Hispanic! We are 20-25% of the US population and we are barely reflected on the coaching ranks.
olive oil wrote:
Try getting hired as a Hispanic! We are 20-25% of the US population and we are barely reflected on the coaching ranks.
I was actually going to say that I don't really see a range of diversity in hiring. It seems primarily focused on one minority group or one gender. It's all crap. Hire on qualifications and culture fit, not race, be it white, black, hispanic, asian, etc., or gender. Interview the top candidates, regardless of race or gender. Make the best choice from those top candidates based on who will do the best job reaching the goals for the program and who is the best culture fit.
For the person who said I should sue, you are not wrong, but that would probably end my ability to ever get hired anywhere, right? Which is probably why nobody sues for these things, be it a white male or a person of another race or gender. We all still want the opportunity to get a coaching job again.
And for the typo, keyword, reputation person, none of those were or would be an issue.
Bashfulllll wrote:
I think everyone knows that in athletics, and specifically in xc/tf, there absolutely is often discrimination against white males. To deny this is to either be ignorant or a liar.
It is happening often, not for every hire, but for many hires, and for more all the time. So the real question is, do you support discrimination? Are you for equal opportunity and equal consideration for all humans, based on qualifications and fit, or are you for discrimination and identity hiring? Fairness, or "the white guy has had it good for too long and now needs to be punished!"
Sadly, not only is XC/TF used to get minority and gender hiring quotas because they are sports that aren't cared about much, they are also the primary target for AD's because 1 hire counts on the books as 6 Head Coaches. If a school has men's and women's xc, itf and otf, they get to count each head coach of each of those sports separately, even if it is the same person. So a single black female hire counts as 6 black head coaches and 6 women head coaches for the athletic department. It's basically a way to cheat the system and relieve the pressure to have to hire as many women and minorities for other sports in the department. So you guys that are all "yeah, down with the white guy!" and "it's about time minorities and women get all these jobs!" are actually cheering for a system that is both discriminating against white guys in XC/TF, and discriminating against women and minorities in the other sports on a campus.
And I will say that I have an extensive and highly successful NCAA I resume with many years of coaching experience. I applied for the Ohio job. My resume and experience is at least 10x stronger than the person they hired. I didn't get an interview. I applied for another job recently that I would be shocked if anyone at my level of experience applied for, much less 3-5 people at my level. No interview. I heard through the inside that they are almost finished with the hire. I don't know who or if they are a minority or female, but I will be shocked if that isn't the case. It will be known soon.
So with vastly superior experience, results, etc I cannot get an interview as a while male, while at Ohio for example they offered five women before they got one to take the job.
And I'm not saying I should be hired for any position. A hiring decision is a combination of qualifications and culture fit. I have no problem with a hiring decision to go with a slightly less qualified person because they fit better. I actually don't even have a problem with a decision to hire a minority or a woman simply because all things were pretty much equal. But no matter what anyone says, it isn't a fair system when I can't get an interview simply because I am a white male, even though I'm for more qualified.
Cool story bro. So you’re telling us you’re going to beat the system? Also, if you have an extensive and highly successful NCAA DI resume, you did not want the Ohio job. That was the last thing Ohio wanted.
please go away wrote:
fsrd wrote:
No white boy they gone. Bye
Posts like this are exactly why white people feel they are discriminated against in the hiring process. And in most job openings, white people ARE discriminated against.
I was joking damn you’re sensitive as hell. I am white myself geez!
Back to jobs please. Start a new thread about this. It's probably worth opening it up to the rest of letsrun instead of peeing on eachother in here.
This is what we are about peeing on eachother! Look how quick it is for anonymous people to hide behind a screen and type! Not support each other but just talk s*** and think it’s okay. You guys should be ashamed of yourself!
Change the narrative instead of condemn, speak to what's right and not what's wrong ...if you really feel a change must be made, then do it yourself, first....who knows
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michigan has already opened and closed their application for the throws coach position so i wonder who they picked?
Has Rutgers hired their assistant distance coach? I assume a female.
oralshockers wrote:
michigan has already opened and closed their application for the throws coach position so i wonder who they picked?
Grant Cartwright
Anyone hear anything on Western or Eastern Illinois filling their track jobs, it has been sometime
Shadow Lurker wrote:
yesyesyes wrote:
Any word on the front runners for Wisconsin?
Maverick Darling.
Would be utterly shocked if it was anyone else.
Word is University of Memphis has two coaching positions open
1. Sprints/Hurdles
2. Administrative assistant with coaching responsibilities.
https://goutrgv.com/news/2021/8/9/utrgv-athletics-hires-wesley-penberthy-as-track-field-and-cross-country-assistant-coach.aspxWeasel In the Toilet wrote:
Word is University of Memphis has two coaching positions open
1. Sprints/Hurdles
2. Administrative assistant with coaching responsibilities.
please go away wrote:
fsrd wrote:
No white boy they gone. Bye
Posts like this are exactly why white people feel they are discriminated against in the hiring process. And in most job openings, white people ARE discriminated against.
SMH.....There are over 300 DI Track & Field programs and 75% of them have all white coaching staffs. The 25% that aren't all white usually have one minority or one female. I guess white guys feel that if they don't control everything, that it must be discriminatory. LOL