cathylovestorun wrote:
On the contrary, coward. I am wholly capable of defending myself and smart enough to know you pose no threat to me whatsoever even on your best day. Now buzz off you annoying little gnat.
Oh, so you won't mind if I just give you a slap on the butt, then?
She is said to join the Bernie campaign in the coming days.
Alex has a long history of using the N-word: https://twitter.com/ChrisBieszad/status/1204918025738227717
Be Better! wrote:
cathylovestorun wrote:
On the contrary, coward. I am wholly capable of defending myself and smart enough to know you pose no threat to me whatsoever even on your best day. Now buzz off you annoying little gnat.
Oh, so you won't mind if I just give you a slap on the butt, then?
Looking for attention little gnat? Your mommy is busy and you feel the need to annoy random people on the internet?
Went out to dinner with some friends and we discussed this case. Interestingly, I had a disagreement with the woman member of the other couple, who is much more liberal than me. She felt too big a deal was made about the butt slap where I felt the arrest was appropriate and had no sympathy for the butt slapper.
I felt this guy has probably done this a number of times. I did feel, even though it meets the legal definition of sexual assault, that didn't seem to fit the act. But I am glad he was arrested.
She is definitely more liberal and I am more of a law and order guy. Maybe that's why I was ok with the arrest. She has one son and I have two daughters, that might be another reason for our difference.
But it's not like I think the guy should have any jail time.
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
He’s welcome to press charges. Good luck proving it.
Armstronglivs wrote:
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
If there is video footage of what you described, why wouldn't he have a case? Even if that is why many people go to bars...
I would have no problem with that woman in the bar being arrested. Let me ask you this, if a young male reporter was on the air reporting and an older woman brazenly walked up to him and grabbed his crotch, would you have a problem with her being arrested. Please answer.
Armstronglivs wrote:
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
Just the Facts II wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
If there is video footage of what you described, why wouldn't he have a case? Even if that is why many people go to bars...
The guy is clearly not capable of rational thought, which is why his analogies suck. If the reporter had her ass slapped in a bar (which I'm sure she has), it wouldn't be national news either.
Conundrum wrote:
I would have no problem with that woman in the bar being arrested.
Let me ask you this, if a young male reporter was on the air reporting and an older woman brazenly walked up to him and grabbed his crotch, would you have a problem with her being arrested.
Please answer.
Don't arrest that cougar! It's my fantasy!
Just the Facts II wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
If there is video footage of what you described, why wouldn't he have a case? Even if that is why many people go to bars...
I didn't say he didn't have a case. The incident occurred and it was seen by others. But how likely is it that he would try to bring a prosecution? About zero chance, I would reckon. Not everyone cares enough to do that or even sees themselves as a victim - or the other person as a criminal. What is more remarkable than an incident of this kind going to court is the amount of times it happens - and then nothing happens.
Armstronglivs wrote:
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
Here's the difference:
1. The victim in the bar case decided not to press charges
Maybe you should hunt him down and pay for his legal fees?
Conundrum wrote:
I would have no problem with that woman in the bar being arrested.
Let me ask you this, if a young male reporter was on the air reporting and an older woman brazenly walked up to him and grabbed his crotch, would you have a problem with her being arrested.
Please answer.
Armstronglivs wrote:
I was in a bar this evening, listening to a band, and the sound-man told me an interesting story. He said, "see that young woman dancing in front of us - well, a guy came up to her and said, 'how are you doing?' and she turned around and grabbed his c*ck. The guy just ran off".
What he described to me was clearly an indecent assault, and of a more intimate and direct nature than that committed by the runner in the highly-publicised incident we've been discussing on this thread. According to some views here, she should at least be charged with a criminal offence, maybe go to jail and even be physically beaten up - as some posters have said they would have done to the runner who groped the reporter.
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
So you consider the young woman is effectively a criminal and should be penalised by the courts for what she did. It's the kind of thing that happens all the time, and particularly in social settings where there is alcohol. So why do you think charges are almost never brought (and especially against women)?
I'm not really interested in discussing your hypothetical example. It isn't what happened to the female reporter; she wasn't grabbed by the crotch, which I consider more serious than a passing tap on the backside (and the courts would likely view it the same way). It is also different from the social incident involving the young woman in the bar. Who knows - it could have been an invitation to the young man who approached her?
Of course I accept there are situations where it is clear a person has been treated badly and harmed in some way, for which a legal response is justifiable. But I wouldn't set the bar so low as to say that anything that is unwelcome or even upsetting should result in a prosecution. Are we really that fragile now?
stupid comparison wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
But no charges will be laid, there won't be anything on Twitter or the tv news and it won't give rise to feverish discussion on social media sites like this. The guy left without saying anything. Was he traumatised or humiliated? I don't know but I suspect he was a little taken aback and certainly lost for words.
If we apply the same views as have been expressed here about the incident involving the tv reporter there should be expressions of public outrage, the young woman 'perpetrator' should be compelled to publicly beg forgiveness and then be subject to the full force of the law through the courts. She is, after all, a criminal. Isn't she?
Here's the difference:
1. The victim in the bar case decided not to press charges
Maybe you should hunt him down and pay for his legal fees?
Yes, you are aptly named a "stupid comparison". I pointed out that an incident involving what was technically an indecent assault occurred in a bar where I was, and then asked whether commenters here saw the young woman involved as having committed a criminal act for which she should be punished. You might then ponder why charges will not in all likelihood be brought.
I would estimate that young man involved, while possibly embarrassed, probably doesn't see himself as a victim requiring an outpouring of public sympathy for the supposed ordeal he has been through. And most people would view it the same way, or the courts would be full of such cases. They aren't.
"I'm not interested in discussing your inaccurate comparison but expect everyone to weigh in on all of my inaccurate comparisons"
yawntown wrote:
Just the Facts II wrote:
If there is video footage of what you described, why wouldn't he have a case? Even if that is why many people go to bars...
The guy is clearly not capable of rational thought, which is why his analogies suck. If the reporter had her ass slapped in a bar (which I'm sure she has), it wouldn't be national news either.
I wouldn't count on it. The law doesn't make a distinction between a bar and a running track.
Armstronglivs wrote:
stupid comparison wrote:
Here's the difference:
1. The victim in the bar case decided not to press charges
Maybe you should hunt him down and pay for his legal fees?
Yes, you are aptly named a "stupid comparison". I pointed out that an incident involving what was technically an indecent assault occurred in a bar where I was, and then asked whether commenters here saw the young woman involved as having committed a criminal act for which she should be punished. You might then ponder why charges will not in all likelihood be brought.
I would estimate that young man involved, while possibly embarrassed, probably doesn't see himself as a victim requiring an outpouring of public sympathy for the supposed ordeal he has been through. And most people would view it the same way, or the courts would be full of such cases. They aren't.
Right, and my point is that the man is a victim and could/should bring charges against the perpetrator of that indecent assault. Perhaps the better question to ponder is why the man in this case does not see himself as a victim. Clearly you are outraged by the woman's actions as am I. Why shouldn't men hold women to the same standard of civility and decency?
Thread Translator wrote:
"I'm not interested in discussing your inaccurate comparison but expect everyone to weigh in on all of my inaccurate comparisons"
How attempted cleverness only reveals stupidity. The example I gave was of an actual incident, not a dreamed up example. There was nothing "inaccurate" about it - it happened. Come back when you've looked up the meaning of "hypothetical".
