Olympic and world champion Asbel Kiprop has tested positive

I wonder if DeGrasse’s coach thinks Kiprop is clean like he said about Justin Gatlin on Twitter a few months ago lol.

wrong wrong wrong wrote:

Kiprop stunk in Rio. Stunk!!! He was clearly off the stuff. He was all detached and not with it. You could tell before the race he knew he would stink. Centro won in record slow time because it was more honest race IMO....

Now Monaco 2015... My favourite YouTube 1500, I can not watch the same again ☹.. If this is all true..

Inconsistency can be a sign of doping, trying to get the correct mix of dope, the dosage and keeping ahead of testing, but there have been some consistent dopers.

Btw, that Rio final was a perfect setup for Kiprop, having the fastest 400 and 800 PR in the field and notwithstanding a 3:26x 1500m PR. Kiprop only had to run hard for 600m; it's crazy how he tied up in the end.

casual obsever wrote:

Ring...ring... wrote:

Just a real pity for Kiprop that his doorbell was working that day.

Maybe was drunk, and either forgot that he was still glowing, or that not hearing the doorbell is a certified, valid excuse.

Now you've got it.

Apophis99 wrote:

There have been some ridiculously fast 1500m times the past ten years. Maybe Mo could have pushed Kiprop to the line the day Kiprop ran 3:26.X.

Mo has two of the fastest of those times.

All you need to know about Mo Farah is he only time trialed the 1500m— never contesting it in a Championship. Mo Farah will PR at the double half mary again but never win a major unless the field is watered down.

Like he wouldn't have done great if he had taken that 3:28 speed to a sit and kick 1500. He was just chicken to venture out of the very soft 5000/10000 territory.

The issue is why move to marathon instead of 1500. It's not too late for him to change his mind and see what doing 1500 full time could achieve.

TrackCoach wrote:

wrong wrong wrong wrote:

Kiprop stunk in Rio. Stunk!!! He was clearly off the stuff. He was all detached and not with it. You could tell before the race he knew he would stink. Centro won in record slow time because it was more honest race IMO....

Now Monaco 2015... My favourite YouTube 1500, I can not watch the same again ☹.. If this is all true..

Inconsistency can be a sign of doping, trying to get the correct mix of dope, the dosage and keeping ahead of testing, but there have been some consistent dopers.

Btw, that Rio final was a perfect setup for Kiprop, having the fastest 400 and 800 PR in the field and notwithstanding a 3:26x 1500m PR. Kiprop only had to run hard for 600m; it's crazy how he tied up in the end.

Because he was d@mn near last with 450m to go. Everyone can kick off that slow of a pace - you need to be positioned closer to the front.

I watched Monaco over and over. I thought he was just better. He was the star of the 1500/mile. Devastating news, so disappointed.

TrackCoach wrote:

Btw, that Rio final was a perfect setup for Kiprop, having the fastest 400 and 800 PR in the field and notwithstanding a 3:26x 1500m PR. Kiprop only had to run hard for 600m; it's crazy how he tied up in the end.

He didn't tie up, or at least not unintentionally.

As I was saying through that whole olympics, east Africa was collectively taking a dive. Nike is corrupt enough to do that to get American medals. Possibly the sub-2 thing was payment from Kipchoge for sparing him.

SlowFatMaster wrote:

I noticed in the Bowerman clip that Kiprop (among others) had a Nike "Livestrong" singlet on. Or, since this is LetsRun, I should say "How ironic that Kiprop literally had on a "Livestrong" singlet!"

He also wore the yellow Lifestrong bracelet.

soybeanz wrote:

I wonder if all he did was eat some "tainted" meat?

Of course he did, they were all Cannibals hundered years ago, so maybe...

Les wrote:

Can't say I'm surprised. I always thought Kiprop was selectively doping. He's a fixture at Monaco which are basically all-out time trials where the effects of doping are most obvious. One year, he runs 3:26 and makes it look easy. Other years he struggles to run sub-3:30. It's the ease with which he ran his fastest times that I consider suspicious.

Is that right? Near as I can tell, he ran better than 3:30 every year from 2012 to 2016.

Coevett wrote:

Billy Konchellah the 87 world champion and who arguably started the era of African domination, also had moved to the USA. Given his subsequent conviction for drugging and raping children, you'd have to be crazy to believe he wouldn't have been taking any substance he could get his hands on to win. There was also another thread which claimed that another runner had heard him admit to taking drugs.

I think the Kenyans who were living and training in the U.S. in the late 80s were likely EPO clean because EPO was primarily a European thing at that time. However, it is a known fact that German, Dutch and Italian coaches working in North and East Africa were working with EPO. John Ngugi would was on the forefront of the African dominance was a doper. If he was doping, I doubt all his training partners like Moses Tanui who were dominating distance running at that time were clean.

Left Said Fred wrote:

Is that right? Near as I can tell, he ran better than 3:30 every year from 2012 to 2016.

and 2016 was the Sumgong case...

Bad Wigins wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Btw, that Rio final was a perfect setup for Kiprop, having the fastest 400 and 800 PR in the field and notwithstanding a 3:26x 1500m PR. Kiprop only had to run hard for 600m; it's crazy how he tied up in the end.

He didn't tie up, or at least not unintentionally.

As I was saying through that whole olympics, east Africa was collectively taking a dive. Nike is corrupt enough to do that to get American medals. Possibly the sub-2 thing was payment from Kipchoge for sparing him.

By my count, in Rio "East Africa" won the men's 800m, steeplechase, marathon, and the women's 1500m, 5000m, 10000m and marathon.

I fail to see how that might be a "dive," given that the men's 5000m and 10000m winner was of East African extraction and had won the same in the previous three global championships.

[quote]Let's Get To The Bottom Of This wrote:

Shorter didn't dope and neither did Yifter but my point is that without drugs involved Americans

can win and usually will beat the Africans.....Shorter, Wottle, Ryun, etc....

Yfter could beat Frank over 10k but not over 26.2

Ugh. Holding out (probably false) hope that Geb and Bekele are clean.

Coe: Look, you can either let Centro win and have the [unclear, sounded like "fifty Gs"], or we'll bust you anyway for doping a couple of months down the road. It's your choice, but we'd like to see him [Centro] on the podium. (It's a feel good story)

just wondering... wrote:

Has anyone got a list of the Rosa athletes?

It's all over this thread, including on the paper before your post.

Add him to the list.

I think you might have meant this, with the Evan Jager (and others) on the Fancy Bears list.