CENTRO!!!!! CENTRO!!! CENTRO!!!!!!

This thread is exhibit A on why most elites hate letsrun.

So he didn't word his denial to your liking ? Its quite simple, when you deny a rumor you don't repeat the rumor. Repeating what the rumor is perpetuates the rumor. Its a smart response.

Hey Bros wrote:

This thread is exhibit A on why most elites hate letsrun.

This is exhibit B:

It's time wrote:

I have told someone at NOP who is close to Centro about this thread. I'm hoping someone gets their ass sued off for this.

We should all be afraid. Any thread can be made about anyone at letsrun.

Ok Kip.

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

These are non-denials, and just add fuel to the fire. Why not say "I have not received a positive result on an a-sample test"? It would be very easy to do, but he has not done it.

There's not an "A-sample test," nor does he have any reason to disclose the A-sample if the B-sample was negative.

Which rumor did he deny? The one where he failed an a-sample test? A b-sample test? The he doped? That he knowingly doped? He should word his denial clearly. What he did was not smart as it did not actually deny anything.

Deadman Running wrote:

So he didn't word his denial to your liking ? Its quite simple, when you deny a rumor you don't repeat the rumor. Repeating what the rumor is perpetuates the rumor. Its a smart response.

HardLoper wrote:

There's not an "A-sample test," nor does he have any reason to disclose the A-sample if the B-sample was negative.

So what is he denying?

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

There's not an "A-sample test," nor does he have any reason to disclose the A-sample if the B-sample was negative.

So what is he denying?

That he doped. What the heck do you think he's denying?

HardLoper wrote:

That he doped. What the heck do you think he's denying?

He should say that. He should also say he's never failed any test, a or b sample.

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote: So what is he denying?

Because it is very likely an inferred positive result by the USADA. An inferred result is something an attorney for Nike would love to go head-to-head with the USADA.

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

That he doped. What the heck do you think he's denying?

He should say that. He should also say he's never failed any test, a or b sample.

If his intent was not to deny that he cheated or failed a test, he wouldn't have tweeted. No other interpretation of his tweet makes any sense.

Once again, "A or B sample" aren't different tests.

HardLoper wrote:

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

He should say that. He should also say he's never failed any test, a or b sample.

If his intent was not to deny that he cheated or failed a test, he wouldn't have tweeted. No other interpretation of his tweet makes any sense.

Once again, "A or B sample" aren't different tests.

I agree, but in "legal-talk," he hasn't truly denied anything. He's just stated that he'll be racing in the outdoor season and that he's dispelling any ugly rumors about him.

While any sensible human being would understand that he's denying doping allegations, a lawyer would say that he's not because he didn't specifically say so.

cbenson4 wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

If his intent was not to deny that he cheated or failed a test, he wouldn't have tweeted. No other interpretation of his tweet makes any sense.

Once again, "A or B sample" aren't different tests.

I agree, but in "legal-talk," he hasn't truly denied anything. He's just stated that he'll be racing in the outdoor season and that he's dispelling any ugly rumors about him.

While any sensible human being would understand that he's denying doping allegations, a lawyer would say that he's not because he didn't specifically say so.

Is this a court of law all of sudden?

HardLoper wrote:

If his intent was not to deny that he cheated or failed a test, he wouldn't have tweeted. No other interpretation of his tweet makes any sense.

Once again, "A or B sample" aren't different tests.

Then why not tweet clearly?

Second, of course they're separate tests, but not separate violations. Look here:

b. Upon receipt of a positive laboratory A report or a report indicating an elevated testosterone/epitestosterone ratio or epitestosterone concentration, USADA will promptly notify the USOC, the applicable NGB and athlete at the address on the Doping Control Notification/Signature Form and shall advise the athlete of the date on which the laboratory will conduct the B sample analysis. The athlete may attend the B sample analysis accompanied by a representative at his or her own expense. Prior to the B sample opening, USADA shall provide to the athlete the A sample laboratory documentation set forth on Annex B. A sample shall not be considered positive until after the B sample analysis confirms the A sample analysis.

c. Upon receipt of the laboratory's B sample report, USADA shall promptly notify the USOC, the applicable NGB and the athlete. USADA shall then provide to the athlete the B sample documentation package set forth on Annex C. The laboratory shall not be required to produce any documentation in addition to Annexes B and C unless ordered to do so by an arbitrator(s) during adjudication, in which case it shall be produced at the athlete's expense.

Centro sees face in words.

cbenson4 wrote:

I agree, but in "legal-talk," he hasn't truly denied anything. He's just stated that he'll be racing in the outdoor season and that he's dispelling any ugly rumors about him.

While any sensible human being would understand that he's denying doping allegations, a lawyer would say that he's not because he didn't specifically say so.

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Then why not tweet clearly?

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Because he went to Oregon

cbenson4 wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

If his intent was not to deny that he cheated or failed a test, he wouldn't have tweeted. No other interpretation of his tweet makes any sense.

Once again, "A or B sample" aren't different tests.

I agree, but in "legal-talk," he hasn't truly denied anything. He's just stated that he'll be racing in the outdoor season and that he's dispelling any ugly rumors about him.

While any sensible human being would understand that he's denying doping allegations, a lawyer would say that he's not because he didn't specifically say so.

He claims he's racing the outdoor season as normal. A positive test would result in missing the outdoor season, no?

I see no reason to talk in "legal talk" on Twitter. It's not like they're going to bring up his tweets in court and he's going to say - AH! But I never said I failed a test. GOTCHYA!!!

joho wrote:

Is this a court of law all of sudden?

Nope. I just wanted to mock lawyers a bit. The judicial system is so robotic and dehumanized it's ridiculous.

Centrogate