The Official D3 XC Thread 2012

i'm pretty sure Calvin showed they can hand NCC a defeat without the likes of Kramer...

I wouldn't rule out a team like UW-Lacrosse right now either. Looking at their conference results, they had their whole 1-5 right next to or ahead of Eau Claire's top 2 guys, the same guys who went 3-4 at the brooks meet against Calvin and NCC...they could be in the mix for it as well.

Yea what is wrong is the rest of the states should have more D3 state schools. seems like Wisconsin has it figured out pretty well. Give more kids a chance to compete in college sports and win a bunch of national championships...

Bingo. Why should people have to pay 30K+ a year for a decent education and the chance to run? Truther, would you say that people who go to schools that cost 30k a year should compete in a different division than people who pay 50k a year? Cause according to your anti-logic, the guys paying 30K a year are getting a 20K de facto scholarship.

Maybe your friends should go to one of the Wisconsin or NY state schools. I paid out of state tuition at a state school and ran for a very competitive team. Still a heck of a lot cheaper than paying for a private school who would really give me the same education.

I think Lacrosse's complete shalacking of the whole state of wisconsin minus Timmy should put them pretty high. I think the real question is whether or not Eau clare drops, platteville moves up, or neither.

Also, what's with clarmont almost losing to pomona pitzer? Who the hell put them 9th?

At this point in the season, who do you think are the top 10 individuals?

I might be missing some people cus I haven't been paying close attention to all the regions, but I'll take a stab at individual top 10

1. Tim Nelson - UW Stout

2. William Jones - Franciscan

3. Bobby Over - Allegheny

4. Dan Kerr - Calvin

5. Noah Droddy - DePauw

6. Jordan Schillit - Haverford

7. Chris Stadler - Haverford

8. Dan Kerley - North Central

9. Coby Horowitz - Bowdoin

10. Matt Rand - Tufts

Nelson is obviously the class of the field. Jones soundly beat Over a couple weeks ago, Over beat Droddy last weekend, and Droddy won the Oshkosh meet over Calvin and North Central's top guys. Hard to say just how good the Haverford guys and the NE region guys are, as they haven't faced any out of region competition, but you have to figure they'll have a good shot at being up there. I would put Schillit higher but I suspect he hasn't been totally healthy this season.

Eau Claire maintains their high ranking while getting thrashed at WIACs.

Plenty of other teams won conference, why not give them the spot?

Can anybody think of any scenario besides a fall or getting sick the week of where Tim Nelson does not win nationals? Can he run in the 23:30 range?

Almost every one of the d1 guys who ran at Wisco and Nationals split faster through 8k of nationals than they raced at Wisco.

Even without anyone in his league, lets go ahead and assume Timmy's got a 23'30 in him.

NO, I THINK THAT HE WILL WIN. OBVIOUSLY IF HE GETS SICK THAT IS AN OUTSIDE FACTOR BUT NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE ILLUSTRIOUS NORTH CENTRAL COLLEGE, CAN UPSTAGE TIM MF NELSON.

My only question with Tim Nelson is will he try to solo it and crush the field like Sathre last year or will he fall back on that trusty 1000 meter kick he used so effectively in track last year. Both have risks, obviously. Should be interesting to see.

How many teams do you think will make it from each region..?

NewEngRunner wrote:

How many teams do you think will make it from each region..?

Why do so many people ask this every year? Its really a much less interesting question than what will happen with the front few teams and the top 5-10 individuals

Obviously it is interesting to a lot of people. During regionals week I'm more concerned with who makes it, during nationals week I'm more concerned with the top teams and individuals.

I think Brimstein from Geneseo will be in there. Clear #1 runner in the Atlantic Region right now.

Mideast Regional Selections:

Men 5

Women 4

Grant Wintheiser, a Soph at St. Olaf was pretty close behind Nelson and Josh Kaul of UW-La Crosse at the Roy Griak Invite Sept. 29th. He seems to be getting faster and faster (he beat Kaul by 22 seconds at Jim Drews on Oct 13 and easily won his Conference by 21 seconds) so I would not be surprised at all by a top 10 finish at nationals, or even top 3.

I'm not surprised no one knows about him yet, he only ran the 1500 last spring, with a promising but not amazing 3:55 PR. Last year he was 80th place at nats in a time of 25:09.14, and looks to be a whole lot better now.

Grant, you've had some great races this year, Although I think the Griak and Miac were a little down this year, I understand though that you would imagine yourself a top 3 guy, but I think nationals will be a bit deeper than the griak and certianly more deeper than Lacrosse.

HAHHAHA dude don't post about yourself.

By the way, is Kaul related to Willy Kaul? If so, I expect big things (assuming he can stay away from stray golf carts).