I’m not averse to investigating him but the evidence is pretty clear there isn’t much there. Trump is welcome to spend his time and political capital On that rather than lowering prices.
He promised to bring lower prices and a strong economy. He will be a failure if he doesn’t deliver on his #1 campaign promise.
But sure, focus on Fauci instead
You don’t know what’s there. That’s the entire point.
Trump can do both. I get your sarcasm because you and I both know that campaign zingers are rarely ever reality. But your disingenuousness can’t even speak to the reality of the structural inflationary framework ignited by Biden, the ridiculous pork going out the door in scorched Earth style as we speak, or the budget shenanigans by the Biden admin that will force massive refinancing at much higher rates for the new administration. Because you are superficial and partisan.
I’ve never not known this about you, which is why I don’t take your advice on anything and why I would never want to sit down and have a cup of coffee. You are myopic and a narcissist.
Besides cost, there is absolutely no reason not to investigate Fauci and his cronies. He can finally exonerate himself and shut up all the rabid M.A.G.A.s right? We should welcome it.
Lol it sounds like you’re already trying to blame Trumps failures on Biden. He hasn’t even taken office yet! Oh ye of little faith.
I know what’s there at a maximum because I’ve followed Covid origins far closer than most - especially in the last 2 years.
“Why are you concerned about an investigation if you have nothing to hide” is literally GDR Gestapo communist language, man. Do better, from one proud American to another.
Never forget: lower prices, no unemployment rise. The promise.
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It all hinges on what GoF research is, and you even admit that it’s a very gray area. Regardless, the preponderance of evidence doesn’t even support a lab leak so the connection to the pandemic is extremely tenuous. Feels like a waste of power and resources, but the Trump admin is legendary for doing that over actually governing and fulfilling campaign promises — so you may be onto something.
Let's drum up procedural crimes on scientist we don't like because I survive on the fantasy that the vaccines dont work and deeply wish that IVM and Zinc cured COVID.
Rational people.
I don’t like that vaccines saved millions of lives because Big Pharma bad so I will try to get people put in jail
Let's drum up procedural crimes on scientist we don't like because I survive on the fantasy that the vaccines dont work and deeply wish that IVM and Zinc cured COVID.
Rational people.
I don’t like that vaccines saved millions of lives because Big Pharma bad so I will try to get people put in jail
All we have to do is get 3 people in interrogation rooms, spook them, get one to lie, and we can lock up the guy that told us to mask!
You don’t know what’s there. That’s the entire point.
Trump can do both. I get your sarcasm because you and I both know that campaign zingers are rarely ever reality. But your disingenuousness can’t even speak to the reality of the structural inflationary framework ignited by Biden, the ridiculous pork going out the door in scorched Earth style as we speak, or the budget shenanigans by the Biden admin that will force massive refinancing at much higher rates for the new administration. Because you are superficial and partisan.
I’ve never not known this about you, which is why I don’t take your advice on anything and why I would never want to sit down and have a cup of coffee. You are myopic and a narcissist.
Besides cost, there is absolutely no reason not to investigate Fauci and his cronies. He can finally exonerate himself and shut up all the rabid M.A.G.A.s right? We should welcome it.
Lol it sounds like you’re already trying to blame Trumps failures on Biden. He hasn’t even taken office yet! Oh ye of little faith.
I know what’s there at a maximum because I’ve followed Covid origins far closer than most - especially in the last 2 years.
“Why are you concerned about an investigation if you have nothing to hide” is literally GDR Gestapo communist language, man. Do better, from one proud American to another.
Never forget: lower prices, no unemployment rise. The promise.
Gestapo tactics like a literal impeachment over a phone call that was getting too close to the truth? Talk about an incredible use of taxpayer money and time.
Look, I know your whole schtick is to try to back me into a corner as a Trumpist. Cool, your narcissism is satiated yet again. Unlike you, I can see reality for what it is. I don’t think Trump won because he promised lower prices and a better economy. I think he won because of the border insurrection that Biden/Harris exacerbated and flipped the bird over for three years, the Covid totalitarianism and censorship employed by the Dems sanctioning their own form of preferred information and “wokeness,” the coup employed by the Democrats to install a DEI candidate who had the full backing of Hollywood and the mainstream press, and the new, structural inflation caused by short-sighted Covid economic policies that forged inorganic growth.
Theres no excuses. None at all. I don’t care if Trump’s administration is considered a success or not. I didn’t vote for him. But, if he guts the government and eradicates the nepotism and makes people uncomfortable, so be it. That is a success.
Again, you can’t speak to the structural inflation, the crony subsidies being helicopter dropped as we speak, or the extremely short sighted funding of a massive budget deficit using short term and more expensive treasuries, all done by Biden. Because you are disingenuous and enjoy Kabuki theatre. Most people don’t even know what I’m talking about, but you do, which is why I said I get the sarcasm.
I don’t like that vaccines saved millions of lives because Big Pharma bad so I will try to get people put in jail
All we have to do is get 3 people in interrogation rooms, spook them, get one to lie, and we can lock up the guy that told us to mask!
I am very American.
Yes, we are talking about masks😂🙄
You’re an utter embarrassment to Cal Tech. An octagenarian still trying to convince a bunch of fit, immune runners that they need a booster. It’s a sad, sad existence.
All we have to do is get 3 people in interrogation rooms, spook them, get one to lie, and we can lock up the guy that told us to mask!
I am very American.
Yes, we are talking about masks😂🙄
You’re an utter embarrassment to Cal Tech. An octagenarian still trying to convince a bunch of fit, immune runners that they need a booster. It’s a sad, sad existence.
Like literally arguing on a message board all day every day with inferior folk. Imagine. You don’t have much time left dude. Spend it doing something useful.
There is clearly enough evidence to indict Fauci. Here's a sample from emails and comments from insiders in sworn testimony before Congress. I've condensed it to make it clear that there is enough evidence for a reasonable person to think that a crime might have been committed.
they are trying to protect you,”... Morens wrote to Daszak on Oct. 25, 2021, five days after an National Institutes of Health (NIH) official disclosed to Congress that EcoHealth failed to abide by the terms of its grant for WIV.
EcoHealth Alliance received millions of US taxpayer dollars and conducted gain-of-function research at the WIV, according to ... the testimony of officials at NIH,
Even under the 2017 policy definition to which Fauci was referring... scientific experts and former federal officials have said the Wuhan research involved gain-of-function experiments.
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"Peter [Daszak], from Tony’s numerous recent comments to me, and from what Francis has been vocal about over the past 5 days, they are trying to protect you, which also protects their own reputations,” Morens wrote to Daszak on Oct. 25, 2021, five days after an National Institutes of Health (NIH) official disclosed to Congress that EcoHealth failed to abide by the terms of its grant for WIV.
“I had face to face meetings with Tony to discuss science issues,” Morens wrote in another Nov. 18, 2021, email to a former NIH colleague.
The Manhattan-based EcoHealth Alliance received millions of US taxpayer dollars and conducted gain-of-function research at the WIV, according to the COVID subcommittee’s investigation and the testimony of officials at NIH, the agency that oversees NIAID.
Fauci denied that the risky experiments took place under the “operative definition” of the term. “It is not gain-of-function of concern that is associated with the regulatory operative definition of gain-of-function,” he testified.
He also worried aloud about the public backlash if he admitted to it: “[I]f I say yes, then, ‘Ah, yes, he says it was gain-of-function.’”
Former NIH Director Francis Collins used the same policy framework to deny gain-of-function research occurred in Wuhan. Even under the 2017 policy definition to which Fauci was referring, known as the “Framework for Guiding Funding Decisions about Proposed Research Involving Enhanced Potential Pandemic Pathogens,” scientific experts and former federal officials have said the Wuhan research involved gain-of-function experiments.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), told Congress he was not “involved” in a controversial grant to the Wuhan Institute of V…
Lol it sounds like you’re already trying to blame Trumps failures on Biden. He hasn’t even taken office yet! Oh ye of little faith.
I know what’s there at a maximum because I’ve followed Covid origins far closer than most - especially in the last 2 years.
“Why are you concerned about an investigation if you have nothing to hide” is literally GDR Gestapo communist language, man. Do better, from one proud American to another.
Never forget: lower prices, no unemployment rise. The promise.
Gestapo tactics like a literal impeachment over a phone call that was getting too close to the truth? Talk about an incredible use of taxpayer money and time.
Look, I know your whole schtick is to try to back me into a corner as a Trumpist. Cool, your narcissism is satiated yet again. Unlike you, I can see reality for what it is. I don’t think Trump won because he promised lower prices and a better economy. I think he won because of the border insurrection that Biden/Harris exacerbated and flipped the bird over for three years, the Covid totalitarianism and censorship employed by the Dems sanctioning their own form of preferred information and “wokeness,” the coup employed by the Democrats to install a DEI candidate who had the full backing of Hollywood and the mainstream press, and the new, structural inflation caused by short-sighted Covid economic policies that forged inorganic growth.
Theres no excuses. None at all. I don’t care if Trump’s administration is considered a success or not. I didn’t vote for him. But, if he guts the government and eradicates the nepotism and makes people uncomfortable, so be it. That is a success.
Again, you can’t speak to the structural inflation, the crony subsidies being helicopter dropped as we speak, or the extremely short sighted funding of a massive budget deficit using short term and more expensive treasuries, all done by Biden. Because you are disingenuous and enjoy Kabuki theatre. Most people don’t even know what I’m talking about, but you do, which is why I said I get the sarcasm.
I definitely don't condone the overreaches of the Biden admin!
I won't try to back you into a corner- I just get frustrated with small government people who suddenly want big government for issues they care about.
I think my point about the financial promises of the Trump admin is fair because Trumpers have screeched about how bad the economy is for years. Now they are going to have to show they can do better. That is fair (and highlights my point that the economy was never that bad - in fact it was and is good).
You’re an utter embarrassment to Cal Tech. An octagenarian still trying to convince a bunch of fit, immune runners that they need a booster. It’s a sad, sad existence.
Like literally arguing on a message board all day every day with inferior folk. Imagine. You don’t have much time left dude. Spend it doing something useful.
I wouldn't be caught dead at a private university. I am too much a common, everyday, blue collar, American for that.
There is clearly enough evidence to indict Fauci. Here's a sample from emails and comments from insiders in sworn testimony before Congress. I've condensed it to make it clear that there is enough evidence for a reasonable person to think that a crime might have been committed.
they are trying to protect you,”... Morens wrote to Daszak on Oct. 25, 2021, five days after an National Institutes of Health (NIH) official disclosed to Congress that EcoHealth failed to abide by the terms of its grant for WIV.
EcoHealth Alliance received millions of US taxpayer dollars and conducted gain-of-function research at the WIV, according to ... the testimony of officials at NIH,
Even under the 2017 policy definition to which Fauci was referring... scientific experts and former federal officials have said the Wuhan research involved gain-of-function experiments.
- - - - Here is the longer version - - - -
"Peter [Daszak], from Tony’s numerous recent comments to me, and from what Francis has been vocal about over the past 5 days, they are trying to protect you, which also protects their own reputations,” Morens wrote to Daszak on Oct. 25, 2021, five days after an National Institutes of Health (NIH) official disclosed to Congress that EcoHealth failed to abide by the terms of its grant for WIV.
“I had face to face meetings with Tony to discuss science issues,” Morens wrote in another Nov. 18, 2021, email to a former NIH colleague.
The Manhattan-based EcoHealth Alliance received millions of US taxpayer dollars and conducted gain-of-function research at the WIV, according to the COVID subcommittee’s investigation and the testimony of officials at NIH, the agency that oversees NIAID.
Fauci denied that the risky experiments took place under the “operative definition” of the term. “It is not gain-of-function of concern that is associated with the regulatory operative definition of gain-of-function,” he testified.
He also worried aloud about the public backlash if he admitted to it: “[I]f I say yes, then, ‘Ah, yes, he says it was gain-of-function.’”
Former NIH Director Francis Collins used the same policy framework to deny gain-of-function research occurred in Wuhan. Even under the 2017 policy definition to which Fauci was referring, known as the “Framework for Guiding Funding Decisions about Proposed Research Involving Enhanced Potential Pandemic Pathogens,” scientific experts and former federal officials have said the Wuhan research involved gain-of-function experiments.
Sounds like we are going to carefully litigate what defines GoF research. Definitely a good use of taxpayer $ and federal gov't employee time all for a perjury trial...
I thought we were tearing down the FBI for precisely this kind of BS?
Listen partisan dunce, it’s not about the vaccines.
Haven’t you learned? It’s ALWAYS about the vaccines with Harambro. It’s as if he wants to live 2021 over and over again. 🤦♂️
Yes, he waxes poetic about not condoning government overreach, when the fanaticism of Covid was the biggest government overreach and waste of taxpayer money in recent memory. It also irks him that Omicron, with or without the vaccine, ended Covid. Which it did. That’s not the same thing as saying the vaccine wasn’t helpful, which it was.
I suggest you focus on the governing that Trump will need to do. His promises to further improve this excellent economy are a tall order. Unfortunately he won’t be able to distract with Broadway-theater like prosecutions, it seems.
Yep, we get it. Your strongest suit is the whataboutism. Why so averse to investigating Fauci? Guy has nothing to hide and nothing to lose, right? Just a consummate public servant.
I agree with Trump focusing on governing, but when your predecessor created a massive, secular inflationary impulse in the wake of Covid that’s still there, when he’s still handing out massive subsidies like candy on the way out the door, and when the Treasury secretary played politics and stupidly funded a huge part of deficit with short term paper (in an inverted curve environment no less) that will now need to be rolled to much higher interest rates, the guy is going to be hamstrung.
Democrats like you should welcome no global conflict, government transparency and accountability, and a new administration focused on balancing the budget via cutting, yet, you don’t… telling. You got addicted to the control and totalitarianism and great replacement politics I guess.
There is zero reason not to investigate the NIH and CDC and hold people accountable where necessary. Too much nepotism, power, and revolving door shenanigans. Good to remove a layer of conflict. You should welcome it. But you don’t.
I don’t like that vaccines saved millions of lives because Big Pharma bad so I will try to get people put in jail
All we have to do is get 3 people in interrogation rooms, spook them, get one to lie, and we can lock up the guy that told us to mask!
I am very American.
Great to be zero-dose unvaccinated. No worries about long term adverse effects or the need to get the latest injection. 4 years of Covid vaxxes as of Dec. 14 and I have been sick for only 2 days out of those 4 years.
Insanity. The medical resources wasted on nonsense like this:
All we have to do is get 3 people in interrogation rooms, spook them, get one to lie, and we can lock up the guy that told us to mask!
I am very American.
Great to be zero-dose unvaccinated. No worries about long term adverse effects or the need to get the latest injection. 4 years of Covid vaxxes as of Dec. 14 and I have been sick for only 2 days out of those 4 years.
Insanity. The medical resources wasted on nonsense like this:
Haven’t you learned? It’s ALWAYS about the vaccines with Harambro. It’s as if he wants to live 2021 over and over again. 🤦♂️
Yes, he waxes poetic about not condoning government overreach, when the fanaticism of Covid was the biggest government overreach and waste of taxpayer money in recent memory. It also irks him that Omicron, with or without the vaccine, ended Covid. Which it did. That’s not the same thing as saying the vaccine wasn’t helpful, which it was.
As the only western country that is economically ahead of where it was in 2019 I contend we did not waste our tax payer money digging ourselves out of the COVID hole.
There will not be a prosecution over vaccines - it’s hilarious how hung up on saving 20M lives you guys are. It’s just sad you still #persist.
Listen partisan dunce, it’s not about the vaccines. This thread is about Fauci. Nobody cares about Covid or the vaccines anymore, even if they were dubious. You want to get an annual booster every year? Knock yourself out.
There is no reason for a pre-emptive pardon for your totalitarian overlord unless a crime has been committed or the pretense of a crime is there. Fauci and Collins composed a zoonotic transmission narrative from the very beginning and suppressed the lab leak theory, even as we still don’t know. We don’t know if NIH subsidiaries were involved w illicit GoF research or not. What we do know is Fauci created a massive word salad contortion around what actually constitutes GoF in an effort not to perjure himself. What we do know is that some of his underlings destroyed evidence, people he tried to publicly distance himself from.
Just because he was Time magazine’s person of the year or Flagpole’s wife worked for him or you find him to be respectable and knowledgeable doesn’t mean he’s not corrupt or didn’t engage in malfeasance of some sort. You should actually welcome the opportunity for him to exonerate himself once and for all. You should actually be demanding it. But you’re not. All of you butt hurt libs are singing the same tune. Of course this is why you lost, but you can’t do any introspection because you are “an intellectual.
The only thing you said there that is true (or even remotely true) is that my wife worked for Fauci. He's a great man and a national hero who has saved the lives of untold millions.
Haven’t you learned? It’s ALWAYS about the vaccines with Harambro. It’s as if he wants to live 2021 over and over again. 🤦♂️
Yes, he waxes poetic about not condoning government overreach, when the fanaticism of Covid was the biggest government overreach and waste of taxpayer money in recent memory. It also irks him that Omicron, with or without the vaccine, ended Covid. Which it did. That’s not the same thing as saying the vaccine wasn’t helpful, which it was.
I like when he tells everyone that he’s a libertarian and then goes on multipage rants about things no libertarian would ever support. Good times. 👍
Haven’t you learned? It’s ALWAYS about the vaccines with Harambro. It’s as if he wants to live 2021 over and over again. 🤦♂️
Yes, he waxes poetic about not condoning government overreach, when the fanaticism of Covid was the biggest government overreach and waste of taxpayer money in recent memory. It also irks him that Omicron, with or without the vaccine, ended Covid. Which it did. That’s not the same thing as saying the vaccine wasn’t helpful, which it was.
The only problem with the Covid response financially is a gave us a booming recovery that is the envy of the world and Trump has promised to greatly improve upon it.
Yes, he waxes poetic about not condoning government overreach, when the fanaticism of Covid was the biggest government overreach and waste of taxpayer money in recent memory. It also irks him that Omicron, with or without the vaccine, ended Covid. Which it did. That’s not the same thing as saying the vaccine wasn’t helpful, which it was.
I like when he tells everyone that he’s a libertarian and then goes on multipage rants about things no libertarian would ever support. Good times. 👍
Think what you will but at least I don’t roll over on voting rights because the talking heads on my TV say I should
