just listened to an interview with Dick Telford (prominent Aussie distance coach / sport scientist at AIS) and he stands behind Pete 100%.....
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
just listened to an interview with Dick Telford (prominent Aussie distance coach / sport scientist at AIS) and he stands behind Pete 100%.....
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
Would be really silly to take EPO at this time of season if you haven't ever tested positive at meets.
Without judging, what I do know about EPO testing, from standing right next to the instruments at a WADA lab talking to the analysts, is that positive tests are rife from just the general population, i.e. samples that just come in from police cases and attributed to casual use - internet supplied- by gym goers etc
That is by far the demographic that presents positive. I haven't seen a study done on this to delve deeper into it.
On the contrary it’d be really dumb to administer EPO around competitions when you know the windows to be caught is 0-6 days after. In the off-season, you’d be much less likely to get tested and popped. EPO’s effect can last longer than the detection window of course.
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
This argument doesn’t make sense to me. The whereabouts system exists for a reason, and just because you go somewhere in the 3rd world or remote doesn’t mean they’ll cancel their plans to test you or give you a pass to not be where you’re supposed to be. We’ve seen lots of whereabouts failures from East Africans. They also have no requirement to call you, so saying why didn’t you call me in Uganda isn’t valid.
They're all on something. This is simply a fact people have to get used to. Some will get caught and some won't. What most hobby joggers don't understand is running is not something they do out of enjoyment. They do this to make a living. A real good one. If he doesn't cheat, another Kenyan from the next village will take his money. And for that I can't blame him. If I was in his shoes, I would the same.
just listened to an interview with Dick Telford (prominent Aussie distance coach / sport scientist at AIS) and he stands behind Pete 100%.....
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
He had an AAF to EPO. Unless he can cast a strong doubt on the test result then everything else is white noise. A neg test on the B sample would cast doubt on that test of the A sample. A positive on the B sample will blow any defence clean out of the water.
just listened to an interview with Dick Telford (prominent Aussie distance coach / sport scientist at AIS) and he stands behind Pete 100%.....
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
Dick may be "behind Pete 100%", but he has no idea if PB is guilty or not until the result of the B sample comes in, even then if he still thinks he's innocent somehow then it's only in his opinion.
He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
Always? Not quite. You are reaching, which shows your bias.
Examples of drug cheats who weren't secretive about their whereabouts include Gatlin, Gay and Houlihan to name but a few.
Would be really silly to take EPO at this time of season if you haven't ever tested positive at meets.
Without judging, what I do know about EPO testing, from standing right next to the instruments at a WADA lab talking to the analysts, is that positive tests are rife from just the general population, i.e. samples that just come in from police cases and attributed to casual use - internet supplied- by gym goers etc
That is by far the demographic that presents positive. I haven't seen a study done on this to delve deeper into it.
On the contrary it’d be really dumb to administer EPO around competitions when you know the windows to be caught is 0-6 days after. In the off-season, you’d be much less likely to get tested and popped. EPO’s effect can last longer than the detection window of course.
Yep, but why would he not take it when it matters, and not when it doesn't. What is the benefit of taking it now...serious question, not casting doubt.
Most of them arent secretive with their doping at all.Usually what happens with wealthier countries,is when their athletes test positive,it gets swept under a rug.They can dope with impunity,knowing theyre protected-most of the time.Most nations turn a blind eye,whilst pretending to be anti doping.
Most of them arent secretive with their doping at all.Usually what happens with wealthier countries,is when their athletes test positive,it gets swept under a rug.They can dope with impunity,knowing theyre protected-most of the time.Most nations turn a blind eye,whilst pretending to be anti doping.
They're all on something. This is simply a fact people have to get used to. Some will get caught and some won't. What most hobby joggers don't understand is running is not something they do out of enjoyment. They do this to make a living. A real good one. If he doesn't cheat, another Kenyan from the next village will take his money. And for that I can't blame him. If I was in his shoes, I would the same.
Hi Jeff. Are you saying everybody is on something, or every East African is on something? If the former, you have to explain why East Africans are getting caught at 20 x the rate of the rest, despite subpar testing in Africa. Even those raised in the West such as Bol and the American claiming he bought a contaminated gym preworkout, and over a dozen 'European' mahgrabians and Eritreans.
just listened to an interview with Dick Telford (prominent Aussie distance coach / sport scientist at AIS) and he stands behind Pete 100%.....
Also - you can see all of Pete Bol's training on Strava - even the day he got tested. He does not go to training camps in far off countries where he cant be reached. Drug cheats are always secretive about their training/ whereabouts for obvious reasons. Pete is the exact opposite.
Dick may be "behind Pete 100%", but he has no idea if PB is guilty or not until the result of the B sample comes in, even then if he still thinks he's innocent somehow then it's only in his opinion.
They're all on something. This is simply a fact people have to get used to. Some will get caught and some won't. What most hobby joggers don't understand is running is not something they do out of enjoyment. They do this to make a living. A real good one. If he doesn't cheat, another Kenyan from the next village will take his money. And for that I can't blame him. If I was in his shoes, I would the same.
Hi Jeff. Are you saying everybody is on something, or every East African is on something? If the former, you have to explain why East Africans are getting caught at 20 x the rate of the rest, despite subpar testing in Africa. Even those raised in the West such as Bol and the American claiming he bought a contaminated gym preworkout, and over a dozen 'European' mahgrabians and Eritreans.
I would have found a way around it. Switching urine samples is my game. Athletics Australia has now named a meet after me.
Page 22 of one of the reports from the Senate enquiry states that Jane Flemming gave in camera evidence that: "Mr Plant came up to me at the javelin throwing area and asked me if I would urinate in a bottle for Sue Howland because she had been picked for testing. He gave me a drink bottle. I went and weed in the bottle and apparently it got passed off as Sue's urine sample." The report recognises that action as an "attempt to corrupt a drug test". Further down on page 28, the report says that: "The committee understands that Athletics Australia has now taken action against Mr Plant. The committee has received a copy of a letter dated 12 March 1990 from Athletics Australia to the Chairman of the Australian Sports Commission. The letter advsies that Mr Plant acknowledged a potentional error of judgement, and it has been agreed that he will not be considered for an further managerial positions with Australian Athletic teams." You can read the full Black report that contains the above quotes here:
Yep, but why would he not take it when it matters, and not when it doesn't. What is the benefit of taking it now...serious question, not casting doubt.
Who’s to say, but EPO use can benefit you in pretty much any time as a distance runner. Base-building etc. He could use it through January taper off it as competitions/tests loomed. Resume it March-May etc.
Secondarily, is it not more weird that his values would be out of whack when he’s not supposedly training hard. Don’t a lot of suspicious values (that get explained) occurr after hard training/altitude? Weird he’s getting it after sitting on the beach. Like the Shelby “I didn’t even finish the burrito” addendum I’m not sure the explanation helps the argument.
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