LRC mboard vindicated again. It's official. Colleen Quigley has left the BTC.

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Deets guy wrote:

All her teammates just wanna lay around and play video games lol. Also, definitely seems like her and Shelbo aren't getting along at all. She talks about being mad at Shelby for starting french bread friday off her fast braid friday and buying a ton of bread just to throw it all away.

Everything I said in my previous post is true. She is soooooo jealous of Shelby and Karissa. She argues with Jerry when he makes different and harder workouts for them and has her run with Emily, Gwen, Marielle, etc. When I say she seethes, that's an understatement. She's queen of blonde, white, look at me look at me entitlement and no one likes her. Some may tolerate her and just write it off as Colleen being Colleen, but others are celebrating her departure. She's just not a nice person.

This could be seen in a different way. I'm thinking if I'm Colleen. With a recent US title, a steeple PR that is 10 seconds off the AR, and a ton of range in different events...and a LOT of ambition, which there isn't anything wrong with that---- would she want to be grouped with the best right now, (Shelby and Karissa) or with...the mid-pack? No disrespect to Marielle or Emily or Gwen, but their careers (Gwen's as a distance runner) aren't on the same level as Shelby or Karissa. Now they are all great careers. All have been Olympians, but Shelby and Karissa are on another level of running right now and that's abundantly clear.

So where does Colleen fall? Is it a crime for her to think that she should be up with those top two girls? Maybe YOU don't think she should be or I don't think she should be, but why is she even doing the sport if SHE doesn't think she should be? It's debatable if she proved herself or not, but its still a debate. You might be mistaking Colleen's "seething jealousy" for ambition and confidence, and the belief that she is being underestimated where she is.

When I was in high school, I separated myself as a freshman from the other freshman runners. But come outdoor track, my coach still wanted to group me with the freshman girls rather than the more talented older girls on my team even though I felt I could benefit from running with girls who were faster than me. I advocated for myself. I was seen as arrogant, ungrateful, all the things they make women who want more feel. But I finally got I wanted and got better as a result.

Not saying much of what you state isn't true, but don't discount money. Money may not be as big of a deal when you are first starting out; you've never needed much money because your bills are minimal and your parents sometimes are still helping out. But once real life starts as-in loan payments, rent, car note, etc., and you realize you need a certain amount of money. You start to notice what other people your age and the fact that someone you train is making many times more money than you get upset that you aren't making more money. Unless Collen has a rich boyfriend or trust fund, I would not be surprised if money is not factor. The deal with Nike and just about all sponsors, is the tier-1 athletes get everything. As good as Coleen is to all of us, in the grand scheme she is a tier-2 athlete which basically means she not expected to compete for global championship medals. From a money stand point a t2 athletes gets to live the life of a professional athlete in that all of their needs are being met, you have spending money, but you can't save and you don't own anything. You are pseudo poor, but with the advantage of getting to do what you enjoy doing and travel the world.

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Deets guy wrote:

All her teammates just wanna lay around and play video games lol. Also, definitely seems like her and Shelbo aren't getting along at all. She talks about being mad at Shelby for starting french bread friday off her fast braid friday and buying a ton of bread just to throw it all away.

Everything I said in my previous post is true. She is soooooo jealous of Shelby and Karissa. She argues with Jerry when he makes different and harder workouts for them and has her run with Emily, Gwen, Marielle, etc. When I say she seethes, that's an understatement. She's queen of blonde, white, look at me look at me entitlement and no one likes her. Some may tolerate her and just write it off as Colleen being Colleen, but others are celebrating her departure. She's just not a nice person.

cite your source, have you seen this? heard about it? or just making stuff up?

"she is soooooo jealous of Shelby and Karissa. She argues with Jerry when he makes different and harder workouts for them and has her run with Emily, Gwen, Marielle, etc. When I say she seethes, that's an understatement"

Raphael Warnock wrote:

Interesting she takes credit for recruiting other women to join the team. Who did she create.

And she says she started the Babes. That's such a cringe-worthy name too.

and her Fast Braids, French. braids, and her odd belief they make her run faster.

She's insufferable. No wonder she gone.

yeah-you can read between the lines here-jesus-15 minutes of that youtube interview was enough-sure she is a talented runner, but imagine having to room with her in training camp for 4 weeks!

paul72 wrote:

Raphael Warnock wrote:

Interesting she takes credit for recruiting other women to join the team. Who did she create.

And she says she started the Babes. That's such a cringe-worthy name too.

and her Fast Braids, French. braids, and her odd belief they make her run faster.

She's insufferable. No wonder she gone.

yeah-you can read between the lines here-jesus-15 minutes of that youtube interview was enough-sure she is a talented runner, but imagine having to room with her in training camp for 4 weeks!

"she looks pretty but she TALKS . GAWD I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO HEAR A GIRL TALK!"

This is probably the most anticipated signing of an athlete that I can recount from memory since probably Alex Rodriguez to the New York Yankees

dmndhands wrote:

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Everything I said in my previous post is true. She is soooooo jealous of Shelby and Karissa. She argues with Jerry when he makes different and harder workouts for them and has her run with Emily, Gwen, Marielle, etc. When I say she seethes, that's an understatement. She's queen of blonde, white, look at me look at me entitlement and no one likes her. Some may tolerate her and just write it off as Colleen being Colleen, but others are celebrating her departure. She's just not a nice person.

cite your source, have you seen this? heard about it? or just making stuff up?

"she is soooooo jealous of Shelby and Karissa. She argues with Jerry when he makes different and harder workouts for them and has her run with Emily, Gwen, Marielle, etc. When I say she seethes, that's an understatement"

You're just going to have to take a leap of faith there bro. You obviously know that I can't name names. You also know deep down what the truth is.

This thread is hilarious. Who cares what steeple zig zags does

runnerieuwijww wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Who cares what steeple zig zags does

Apparently you, since you read the entire thread and then took the time to commented on it.

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runnerieuwijww wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Who cares what steeple zig zags does

Apparently you, since you read the entire thread and then took the time to commented on it.

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nate archibald wrote:

This is probably the most anticipated signing of an athlete that I can recount from memory since probably Alex Rodriguez to the New York Yankees

A-Rod was an insecure doper who ended up being a waste of money. I'd imagine this conversation has more substance.

feioanvir wrote:

paul72 wrote:

yeah-you can read between the lines here-jesus-15 minutes of that youtube interview was enough-sure she is a talented runner, but imagine having to room with her in training camp for 4 weeks!

"she looks pretty but she TALKS . GAWD I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO HEAR A GIRL TALK!"

Can you see how one might be critical of an individual woman without it meaning that they hate or invalidate all women?

800hobbyrunner wrote:

Why should Colleen become a distance runner ? She has a 1500m/3000m profile IMO, even the 5k is a bit too long for her

She is also among the top 10 in the world in steeplechase and has probably the best combined 1500/3000m flat PBs of all the best steeplers behind Chepkoech. She is injury prone and steeple will not help with that, but with a completely healthy season she should be as good a world/olympic medal candidate as Frerichs or Krause.

The only argument for longer distances would be that on the road the cakes are bigger overall. But this would mean moving to 10k-marathon roadracing and neither her strengths (1500-3k) nor her frequent injuries would favor such a move.

It doesn't matter if what the negative posters say is true if toxicity is their whole point. Not really a fan of it folks.

Quigley did much of the warmup yesterday with the BTC women. So much for all this alleged drama.

runnerieuwijww wrote:

This thread is hilarious. Who cares what steeple zig zags does

This fine assembled collection of wankers spending hours investigating myriad obtuse angles of instagram posts, that's who.

John Macardle wrote:

Quigley did much of the warmup yesterday with the BTC women. So much for all this alleged drama.

That's because there is little to no drama. This move is financial and professional. What Nike sees as not worth a big contract is a marquee signing for another company. Colleen Quigley is probably the most marketable American distance runner.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

John Macardle wrote:

Quigley did much of the warmup yesterday with the BTC women. So much for all this alleged drama.

That's because there is little to no drama. This move is financial and professional. What Nike sees as not worth a big contract is a marquee signing for another company. Colleen Quigley is probably the most marketable American distance runner.

Yes, everyone with a general understanding sees this clearly, yet those on this thread want more.

John Macardle wrote:

Quigley did much of the warmup yesterday with the BTC women. So much for all this alleged drama.

People on here seem to think that running teams are entirely different from any other work environment, and they jump to some strange conclusions as a result

For one thing, there is the idea that every one on a team is supposed to be BFFs and there is "bad blood" if this isn't the case. It's okay to just be coworkers with someone you work with. I have some coworkers I hang out with on weekends and follow on social media, and others who I don't really have a social relationship with. Doesn't mean that I dislike anyone I work with. It just means that people aren't necessarily friends with everyone the work with.

Then the idea that if someone leaves, there must be drama. People come and go from my workplace all the time. It's almost never a result of any kind of drama. Even when people get let go because the company doesn't feel that their performance is good enough for their position, there's usually no malice. That's just life in a competitive professional environment.