Misquotes by Trump wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Obama's Director of National Intelligence has admitted that they had planted spies in Trump's campaign. This is way worse than Watergate.
Nope. Trump and Fox intentionally misquoted Clapper. They had no interest in Trump. They were interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election. But in Trumpland any spying on Russia means spying on Trump.
Perhaps because any spying on Russia IS spying on Trump. And what does this tell us about Trump?
DiscoGary wrote:
Obama's Director of National Intelligence has admitted that they had planted spies in Trump's campaign. This is way worse than Watergate.
Another day crushing the souls of the "hopeful" Left. Another day with zero evidence of Russian collusion (if you recall, that's what the investigation is supposed to be about- LOL) It's just such a great time to be alive, folks.
The FLOOD of info coming out about the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people is just getting started. This is what happens when you try to undermine democracy. Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Lynch.....maybe HRC and Obama?.....all being exposed for the scum that they are.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/23/mollie_hemingway_the_american_people_need_to_find_out_what_happened_in_2016_and_why.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/05/gowdy_second_special_counsel_unavoidable_given_known_facts.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/22/greenwald_intel_uses_media_to_report_informants_life_in_danger_turns_out_they_are_just_covering_themselves.htmlPerhaps Perhaps wrote:
Misquotes by Trump wrote:
Nope. Trump and Fox intentionally misquoted Clapper. They had no interest in Trump. They were interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election. But in Trumpland any spying on Russia means spying on Trump.
Perhaps because any spying on Russia IS spying on Trump. And what does this tell us about Trump?
Is there any liberal here who sees a problem with the outgoing administration planting spies in the campaign of the opposing side's candidate?
DiscoGary wrote:
Misquotes by Trump wrote:
Nope. Trump and Fox intentionally misquoted Clapper. They had no interest in Trump. They were interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election. But in Trumpland any spying on Russia means spying on Trump.
Right. They spied on the Trump campaign to protect Trump from the Russians. You can't possibly believe that lie.
True, he does not believe that lie. Which is why he did not state that lie or anything close to that lie. Only you stated that lie. Which if par for the course for Lying Gary.
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Or perhaps you can explain how, "interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election." is the same thing as "to protect Trump from the Russians."
DiscoGary wrote:
Monkeys typing wrote:
What Clapper said was that they were spying on the Russians. Of course if the Russians were part of Trump's campaign, then you'd have a point.
And you really, really believe that?
I giving you the benefit of the doubt. Is there another explanation where you aren't clearly spinning Clapper's statement?
DiscoGary wrote:
Perhaps Perhaps wrote:
Perhaps because any spying on Russia IS spying on Trump. And what does this tell us about Trump?
Is there any liberal here who sees a problem with the outgoing administration planting spies in the campaign of the opposing side's candidate?
Is there anyone with a brain (that disqualifies you, Lying Gary) who believes this Trumptonian nonsense about spying on Trump?
Anyone?
Yupperz wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Right. They spied on the Trump campaign to protect Trump from the Russians. You can't possibly believe that lie.
True, he does not believe that lie. Which is why he did not state that lie or anything close to that lie. Only you stated that lie. Which if par for the course for Lying Gary.
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Or perhaps you can explain how, "interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election." is the same thing as "to protect Trump from the Russians."
Are there ANY liberals here bothered by the fact that the outgoing administration, the people in power, used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposing side's presidential campaign, and justifying it with bogus psuedo-intelligence cooked up by their own party and laundered through their own sympathetic media?! Do any liberals see the danger in this?
Flagpole, what say you?
What if Bush had planted spies in Obama's campaign to investigate possible Kenyan influence, would you think that was OK?
Silly Willy wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Obama's Director of National Intelligence has admitted that they had planted spies in Trump's campaign. This is way worse than Watergate.
Another day crushing the souls of the "hopeful" Left. Another day with zero evidence of Russian collusion (if you recall, that's what the investigation is supposed to be about- LOL) It's just such a great time to be alive, folks.
The FLOOD of info coming out about the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people is just getting started. This is what happens when you try to undermine democracy. Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Lynch.....maybe HRC and Obama?.....all being exposed for the scum that they are.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/23/mollie_hemingway_the_american_people_need_to_find_out_what_happened_in_2016_and_why.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/03/05/gowdy_second_special_counsel_unavoidable_given_known_facts.htmlhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/22/greenwald_intel_uses_media_to_report_informants_life_in_danger_turns_out_they_are_just_covering_themselves.html
So Comey "fires back" AND STILL says nothing of consequence to refute the allegation against the FBI's spying! It's like they don't know how to win a simple argument. Simply show a shred of evidence. Provide a fact that contradicts the claim.
Instead, these idiots come up with "...wasn't a spy, it was an informant" and "Trump should be happy we had an informant in place." If you had the informant in place and illegal activity was going on, you'd have a lot more on Trump right now, wouldn't you? Morans.
That's the problem with the Dems/FBI/butthurt establishment here: Since they aren't able to refute the facts, they just ramble on with some vague platitude. Jesus, if you have the ability/knowledge, say something that refutes him. Millions of people are watching, and that's all you come up with?! Now, since you didn't say anything contradicting his claim, it seems pretty clear that you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/politics/james-comey-donald-trump-informant-spy-claims/index.htmlSlipping under the radar is the polling showing that 40% of the country think s we're headed in the "Right" direction. It's the highest it's been during the Trump presidency, and is a level that was only briefly exceeded twice during the Obama 8 year tenure.
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html
Another WIN for POTUS45!! LOL
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/23/sport/nfl-spring-league-meeting-national-anthem/index.html
Under Radar wrote:
Slipping under the radar is the polling showing that 40% of the country think s we're headed in the "Right" direction. It's the highest it's been during the Trump presidency, and is a level that was only briefly exceeded twice during the Obama 8 year tenure.
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html
40? You are one of those guys who runs 10 seconds over a time (like 36:10) and claims they ran sub 36.
"Right" direction 39.4%
Wrong direction 53.8%
Source: Your link
DiscoGary wrote:
What if Bush had planted spies in Obama's campaign to investigate possible Kenyan influence, would you think that was OK?
When the "birther" thing was so broadly accepted among the Republican base without a shred of evidence, why would they go looking for something they knew damn well wasn't there?
DiscoGary wrote:
Yupperz wrote:
True, he does not believe that lie. Which is why he did not state that lie or anything close to that lie. Only you stated that lie. Which if par for the course for Lying Gary.
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Or perhaps you can explain how, "interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election." is the same thing as "to protect Trump from the Russians."
Are there ANY liberals here bothered by the fact that the outgoing administration, the people in power, used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposing side's presidential campaign, and justifying it with bogus psuedo-intelligence cooked up by their own party and laundered through their own sympathetic media?! Do any liberals see the danger in this?
Flagpole, what say you?
In other words, if you repeat your lie often enough sooner or later people will forget that it is a lie and it will become "true".
Way to contribute, Lying Gary!
DiscoGary wrote:
Obama's Director of National Intelligence has admitted that they had planted spies in Trump's campaign. This is way worse than Watergate.
Dude...that is bonkers.
Here's how the finding of this will go.
1) Not "spies". Confidential source to determine if Russia was trying to infiltrate a campaign...specifically Trump's campaign.
2) This is within the normal workings of the FBI, and the FBI would have been negligent if it didn't do this.
3) This was NOT a mission against Trump or for HRC.
4) It was NOT politically motivated.
5) It was doe to protect our nation and the sanctity of our elections.
What is way worse than Watergate is what Trump and his campaign and staff have done.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
40%? wrote:
Under Radar wrote:
Slipping under the radar is the polling showing that 40% of the country think s we're headed in the "Right" direction. It's the highest it's been during the Trump presidency, and is a level that was only briefly exceeded twice during the Obama 8 year tenure.
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html40? You are one of those guys who runs 10 seconds over a time (like 36:10) and claims they ran sub 36.
"Right" direction 39.4%
Wrong direction 53.8%
Source: Your link
Trump says something (anything).
YOU: "Trump said this! Exactly this!"
ME: "But you do understand Trump's point though, right?"
YOU: "No! I can only look at exactly what he said and dissect it. I cannot attempt to infer anything."
ME: "Well then I'll tell you, here's what he's getting at..."
YOU: "I don't care what he's getting at, I only care about the exact words that came out of his mouth."
ME: "That's probably a large part of why you lost the election."
YOU: [starts weeping]
DiscoGary wrote:
Yupperz wrote:
True, he does not believe that lie. Which is why he did not state that lie or anything close to that lie. Only you stated that lie. Which if par for the course for Lying Gary.
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Or perhaps you can explain how, "interested in Russians trying to meddle in the election." is the same thing as "to protect Trump from the Russians."
Are there ANY liberals here bothered by the fact that the outgoing administration, the people in power, used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposing side's presidential campaign, and justifying it with bogus psuedo-intelligence cooked up by their own party and laundered through their own sympathetic media?! Do any liberals see the danger in this?
Flagpole, what say you?
If Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, what does it matter?
Right now in American politics, to be "Nixonian" is the worst possible thing.
When the truth of what happened comes out, "Trumpian" will be the worst possible thing.
It is so bad for Trump, it's hard to even know what it is FIRST that will bring him down.
Collusion (conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia?
Collusion (conspiracy and/or bribery) with Israel?
Collusion with the UAE (conspiracy and/or bribery)?
Collusion with any other foreign country like Qatar (conspiracy and/or bribery) or who the hell knows who else?
Any of his crimes attached to the investigation into the Stormy Daniels mess and Michael Cohen?
Any of his crimes that come out of the Cohen investigation that have been or will be exposed by Michael Avenatti?
What might these other crimes be (other than conspiracy and/or bribery)?:
Bank Fraud
Wire Fraud
RICO violation
Money laundering
Perjury
Computer hacking violation
Emoluments clause violation
Some sort of privacy violation
and who knows what else
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Out here wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Are there ANY liberals here bothered by the fact that the outgoing administration, the people in power, used the national security apparatus to spy on the opposing side's presidential campaign, and justifying it with bogus psuedo-intelligence cooked up by their own party and laundered through their own sympathetic media?! Do any liberals see the danger in this?
Flagpole, what say you?
If Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, what does it matter?
Well, to be fair, if the FBI, under the direction of Obama, for political purposes, put a spy or spies into the Trump campaign for any reason, that would matter a lot.
That is not what happened though, and it will be shown that that is not what happened.
Flagpole wrote:
Out here wrote:
If Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, what does it matter?
Well, to be fair, if the FBI, under the direction of Obama, for political purposes, put a spy or spies into the Trump campaign for any reason, that would matter a lot.
That is not what happened though, and it will be shown that that is not what happened.
It would only matter if he had something to hide.