Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

PIO! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

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8. If Trump is impeached, will there be a violent crisis? If impeached AND convicted and therefore removed from office, Isolated and minimal, Yes, though I am not all that sure on this question like I am for the others.

I am surprised by this comment. Most Trump voters just want their tax cuts or just always vote GOP. They are not crazy. And the real Trumpettes (Lying Gary, etc.) are full of hot air - just like Trump himself - they will not act up.

So, no chance of any violent crisis.

I hope you are right, but we just had this in Maryland -

Fact Checked to be -

SOME people in BOTH PARTIES are not just crazy, but are BATSH!T CRAZY, hence why I am not sure on that one.

1. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump (directly or indirectly through his associates) cooperated with Russia to help him win the election (aka collusion)? No

2. Will the Special Counsel investigation results prove obstruction of justice by Trump (directly or indirectly through his appointees)? No

3. Will the Special Counsel investigation results show that Trump committed an impeachable crime (including perjury)? No

4. Will Trump be impeached by the end of his first term? No

5. Will Trump run in 2020? Yes If yes, will he win the primary if contested? Yes

6. Assuming Trump runs in 2020, will Trump be reelected? Yes 60/40 chance

7. Assuming Trump wins in 2020, will he be impeached during his second term? No

8. If Trump is impeached, will there be a violent crisis? No. Democrats use violence to make changes. Republicans are civilized, we vote. Expect more Trumps if this one goes down!

Flagpole wrote:

PIO! wrote:

I am surprised by this comment. Most Trump voters just want their tax cuts or just always vote GOP. They are not crazy. And the real Trumpettes (Lying Gary, etc.) are full of hot air - just like Trump himself - they will not act up.

So, no chance of any violent crisis.

I hope you are right, but we just had this in Maryland -

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/libs-800x430.jpg

Fact Checked to be -

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maryland-billboard-guns-trump-impeachment/

SOME people in BOTH PARTIES are not just crazy, but are BATSH!T CRAZY, hence why I am not sure on that one.

"No justice, no peace!" -- Democrat battle cry

If that's good enough for Democrats along with all the violence and rioting we get from them, then why wouldn't it be good enough for Republicans?

DiscoGary wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

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Mr. Zero Percent chance wouldn't budge one iota even after his precious 13 Keys went against him- which is unequivocal proof that he is the supreme example a shrill partisan willfully blind to the evidence presented .

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The 13 keys presented to me that there are a few in there that are more subjective than I previously had thought, and when looking at them, I can still see a way that they could be interpreted to make Hillary the winner, WHICH according to the keys she was...keep reading...

Alan Lichtman was flip flopping a little bit on what the keys were telling him, and technically his keys failed him, because they are supposed to predict who wins the popular vote[\b]. Now, to his credit, from Sept. 2016 on he said he thought Trump would win the election though he admitted he was less sure about this election than ones previous, but his keys were wrong about its main focus...winning the popular vote.

Now, he goes around still as the guy who predicted a Trump win, and while technically he did, his keys didn't do exactly as they said they would...pick the winner of the popular vote (which is USUALLY the winner of the election).

If you read his book, you will see that he is very proud of the fact that his keys don't involve regional politics, and he says they don't need to...they just predict the winner of the nationwide popular vote, and therefore almost always the electoral college winner and therefore election winner. So, LICHTMAN was kind of in a weird situation regarding the 2016 election.

1) He SAID that Trump would win. He was CORRECT!

2) He SAID his keys predicted that Trump would win. That was INCORRECT!

3) His KEYS predicted that Hillary would win the popular vote (which is what the keys are a prediction for). His KEYS were CORRECT!

The Obama's will be producing films and other shows for Netflix.

I could not be any less interested.

Flagpole wrote:

The Obama's will be producing films and other shows for Netflix.

I could not be any less interested.

The "Obamas".

Flagpole wrote:

The Obama's will be producing films and other shows for Netflix.

I could not be any less interested.

Higher Ground Productions- he's becoming a media mogul, just like Oprah & her company, Harpo Productions.

Obama, the new Oprah wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

The Obama's will be producing films and other shows for Netflix.

I could not be any less interested.

Higher Ground Productions- he's becoming a media mogul, just like Oprah & her company, Harpo Productions.

Meh. I don't understand the interest in former Presidents. Jimmy Carter is the only former President in my lifetime to do anything worth paying attention to. The Obamas have no experience with the entertainment industry and therefore should not really be able to be successful doing this. If Netflix is making the bet that people will be drawn to them because they are the Obamas, I think they will find otherwise. Half the country despised the Obamas, and the other half, while we supported Obama as President, that's it. He was kind of cool and funny, but only as he related to other Presidents. I don't get it.

Now, I DO think Netflix produces some great stuff, and if they do that under the production company of the Obamas, I think it will have way more to do with Neflix than with the Obamas. I will watch anything that is good, but I won't just go watch something because it has Obama's name attached to it.

Polls, elections and a 2nd term.....

Some random thoughts....

The latest national polls before the election had Clinton winning the popular vote by a couple percentage points....which she did.

Trump won on an electoral college technicality and lost the popular vote by the largest amount ever by the “winner”. The state polls and final results were off by the % error of the pools.

I point out the above because it shows you how much a fluke 2016 was, even moreso than 2000.

Trump needs a war to win again in 2020. His approval rating is averaging in the low 40s and these things tend not to go back up much outside the % error. Again....he needs a war or something similar.

Trump’s people colluded with Russia, but did he know about it? Who knows. Obstruction seems to be the likeliest charge....but even that depends on what he knew and when, again hard to prove.

Meanwhile gas prices continue to go up....

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Polls, elections and a 2nd term.....

Some random thoughts....

The latest national polls before the election had Clinton winning the popular vote by a couple percentage points....which she did.

Trump won on an electoral college technicality and lost the popular vote by the largest amount ever by the “winner”. The state polls and final results were off by the % error of the pools.

I point out the above because it shows you how much a fluke 2016 was, even moreso than 2000.

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No fluke. No accident. It was all by design. Trump did what he had to do to win the electoral college and put his effort in to states which could help him and ignored those he didn't need. If he had to do better in CA, he would have worked it and got his numbers where they needed to be.

The equation is not static. Those who say that Hillary would have won the popular vote if the rules were different don't understand how changing the rules changes the behavior of the players. Trump outworked Hillary and would have done so no matter what the rules of the game were.

Remember not too long ago when Trump and everyone else didn't think he would win? He was talking about setting up a TV channel with Bannon to cater to the deplorables. It should be fun to see what becomes of the Trump brand and what wacky ideas he will have when he's out of the WH.

Another one decides to cooperate. Trumpers will claim there was nothing there, even though he will cooperate to avoid prison. The tentacles are very long and deep.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/nyregion/michael-cohen-trump-taxi-cooperation.html

Flagpole wrote:

Meh. I don't understand the interest in former Presidents. Jimmy Carter is the only former President in my lifetime to do anything worth paying attention to. The Obamas have no experience with the entertainment industry and therefore should not really be able to be successful doing this.

He acted like a president for 8 years and you guys bought it. Seems to me he was pretty good at it. Acting that is, not presidenting.

not an actor wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Meh. I don't understand the interest in former Presidents. Jimmy Carter is the only former President in my lifetime to do anything worth paying attention to. The Obamas have no experience with the entertainment industry and therefore should not really be able to be successful doing this.

He acted like a president for 8 years and you guys bought it. Seems to me he was pretty good at it. Acting that is, not presidenting.

My, that was clever!

No really, I mean it. That was really, really clever!

You must be so proud!

Why do you crybaby libs always complain about the Electoral College? Trump's 306 Electoral College vote count is no mere technicality to Hillary's 232. The Electoral College is embodied in Article 2 section 1 & in the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. That is the law whether you like it or not, so stop bitching about it. Hillary blew it, she never campaigned in Michigan because she thought she had it in the bag and the same thing goes for Wisconsin- those two states went easily to Obama in 2008 & 2012.

As for the popular vote, using a football analogy that is like a football team racking up more yards on offense than their opponent, but losing the game on points scored. Trump scored more points. Perfect example, the Patriots racked up more yards (613 total yards vs 538 total yards) than the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Despite that, the Eagles won with more points.

Trump doesn't need a war in 2020. He will win reelection easily and with a higher Electoral College count than in 2016.

As for oil prices, there are several factors that come into play. The US is not dependent on Iran's crude at all. Crude prices usually go up for the upcoming summer season, plus the demand has gone up. OPEC also extended oil production cuts through the end of 2018. This isn't like it was in 2012-2013 when crude went sky high.

Just stick with your weightlifting knowledge (which by the way, I agree with) but you are out of your depth here.

One more thing, even if Hillary got the entire population (including all the illegal aliens) of California to vote for her in 2016 (39 million) she still would have lost. Obviously, her popular vote would have been incredible, but CA represents just 55 Electoral votes.

Anyway back to the main topic:

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

One more thing, even if Hillary got the entire population (including all the illegal aliens) of California to vote for her in 2016 (39 million) she still would have lost. Obviously, her popular vote would have been incredible, but CA represents just 55 Electoral votes.

Anyway back to the main topic:

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Thank you for explaining how the elector system works, that really had us puzzled there.

Doesn't change the fact that a majority of Americans didn't want trump in office.

DiscoBarry wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

One more thing, even if Hillary got the entire population (including all the illegal aliens) of California to vote for her in 2016 (39 million) she still would have lost. Obviously, her popular vote would have been incredible, but CA represents just 55 Electoral votes.

Anyway back to the main topic:

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Thank you for explaining how the elector system works, that really had us puzzled there.

Doesn't change the fact that a majority of Americans didn't want trump in office.

You can thank the illegals in CA who voted for Hillary.

I agree that Trump outworked Hillary on the campaign trail, and easily so. Too bad his work ethic hasn't continued into the job. Although, really campaigning just feeds his ego, so that's not really work for him.