As of today, 22 May 2018, this four-year presidential term is one-third completed.
I make no political remark here. Just observing the calendar.
As of today, 22 May 2018, this four-year presidential term is one-third completed.
I make no political remark here. Just observing the calendar.
PIO! wrote:
Trump Hillary wrote:
Then Trump supporting the Clinton's,, and giving them money, and stating the Hillary would be a wonderful president, are facts that cannot be changed.
Good point. Using Rigged's own words this means that "Trump is an open Democrat."
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Is Conundrum still on this thread?
Are you equating Dems with Communists?
PIO! wrote:
Trump Hillary wrote:
Then Trump supporting the Clinton's,, and giving them money, and stating the Hillary would be a wonderful president, are facts that cannot be changed.
Good point. Using Rigged's own words this means that "Trump is an open Democrat."
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Is Conundrum still on this thread?
There may be a slight difference in switching from the Communist party to Democrat and switching from Dem to ‘pub. Lol
Another anti-Trump guy calling for the ridiculessness to end:
Just awesome:
"We've seen that the less they come up with, the more they investigate instead of the opposite," Penn noted.
Penn predicts that Comey will be "knocked out" as a witness after the DOJ inspector general's report makes his credibility look questionable.
"The deep state is in a deep state of desperation," he said. "If this report is really critical of Comey and others in the intelligence community it will open a floodgate against them. And if you go back and read the McCabe report you have never seen anyone document, tick-tock, minute-by-minute as this guy [DOH Inspector General] Horowitz does. So either that's going to come out and I think Comey will be knocked out as a witness and gone will be the obstruction with justice and a lot of other questions will get asked."
Mark Penn is a long time Clintonite. He served on Bill Clinton's reelection campaign in 1996 and Hillary's campaign in 2008. He's telling his side that the jig is up, he admits the Mueller investigation is a charade.
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Flagpole wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Re: " I fact, I just added a new one there...that Manafort will plead guilty within weeks. I have never said that before."
This could use some clarification. Any time period can be measured in weeks. The question is how many weeks?
If M has not pled guilty (or been pardoned) within 5 weeks will you admit to being incorrect on this one? 10 weeks? . . .
Please clarify for the score keepers on here.
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For the record the current score is:
Flagpole: 783
Lying Gary/HL/Jamn/... : 0
Good Point. I would be surprised if he doesn't plead guilty by the end of July, so by end of July.
Haha! Now you're stealing predictions?! The talking heads have been saying this all last week. And now you "predict" it. Grow up, man. Stop trying to be right about *something*. You just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper.
Mueller never.
Clownpole forever.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/05/21/lead-panel-2-live-jake-tapper.cnnRigged for Hillary wrote:
Mark Penn is a long time Clintonite. He served on Bill Clinton's reelection campaign in 1996 and Hillary's campaign in 2008. He's telling his side that the jig is up, he admits the Mueller investigation is a charade.
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all?amp&__twitter_impression=true
There are SEVERAL professional, experienced political insiders on the Left that are now coming around to the fact that the jig is up. There's nothing there. As one keen observer pointed out extremely early, its "a nothing burger." He was right. That's what being right looks like. Saying it once and having it be proven (Van Jones)... not saying something 10,000 times and having it not proven (Clownpole).
As the enlightened Democrats are now stating...
Mueller never.
Clownpole forever.
Come on man wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Good Point. I would be surprised if he doesn't plead guilty by the end of July, so by end of July.
Haha! Now you're stealing predictions?! The talking heads have been saying this all last week. And now you "predict" it. Grow up, man. Stop trying to be right about *something*. You just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper.
Mueller never.
Clownpole forever.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/05/21/lead-panel-2-live-jake-tapper.cnn
People actually believed flagpole had an original thought?
Runningart2004 wrote:
Reagan escaped Iran/Contra....
Clinton escaped Lewinsky-gate....
I don’t see Trump being impeached or indicted...he will lose in 2020 though partially because of Mueller.
Alan
1) Reagan successfully implemented "plausible deniability". Trump won't be able to do that as he has always been known as a micro manager, and the evidence will be too strong that he knew what was going on.
2) Clinton was impeached for perjury. He shouldn't have been having a sexual affair with an intern, and especially not in the Oval Office, but this pales in comparison to what Trump has done...with Trump we have affairs (more to become public), we have evidence of serious criminal behavior, we have a White House that loves to leak which shows even his staff isn't loyal to him, and we have a serial liar as a President, so he will perjure himself when the time comes too.
3) If Trump isn't impeached (and convicted) or indicted or resigns under pressure, then our Constitution is worth crap. He has very openly and brazenly attacked the Rule of Law, attacked the fourth estate, accepted bribes, obstructed justice, and put himself in various blackmail-able situations.
To be clear, if Trump is found innocent and suffers no consequences, I will declare that he is innocent of all of these potential crimes and that I was wrong that he was a criminal. He will still be a horrible human being however...that will never change...he WILL remain a serial liar, an adulterer, a racist, a sexist, a misogynist and a whole bunch of other things, but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.
Flagpole wrote:
... but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.
No you will not.
Flagpole wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Reagan escaped Iran/Contra....
Clinton escaped Lewinsky-gate....
I don’t see Trump being impeached or indicted...he will lose in 2020 though partially because of Mueller.
Alan
1) Reagan successfully implemented "plausible deniability". Trump won't be able to do that as he has always been known as a micro manager, and the evidence will be too strong that he knew what was going on.
2) Clinton was impeached for perjury. He shouldn't have been having a sexual affair with an intern, and especially not in the Oval Office, but this pales in comparison to what Trump has done...with Trump we have affairs (more to become public), we have evidence of serious criminal behavior, we have a White House that loves to leak which shows even his staff isn't loyal to him, and we have a serial liar as a President, so he will perjure himself when the time comes too.
3) If Trump isn't impeached (and convicted) or indicted or resigns under pressure, then our Constitution is worth crap. He has very openly and brazenly attacked the Rule of Law, attacked the fourth estate, accepted bribes, obstructed justice, and put himself in various blackmail-able situations.
To be clear, if Trump is found innocent and suffers no consequences, I will declare that he is innocent of all of these potential crimes and that I was wrong that he was a criminal. He will still be a horrible human being however...that will never change...he WILL remain a serial liar, an adulterer, a racist, a sexist, a misogynist and a whole bunch of other things, but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.
Found innocent, not guilty, or not charged? And does it have to be just one of the many things you stated Trump was guilty of all of them?
Runningart2004 wrote:
Reagan escaped Iran/Contra....
Clinton escaped Lewinsky-gate....
I don’t see Trump being impeached or indicted...he will lose in 2020 though partially because of Mueller.
Alan
If he were to make it that far, he should lose in the Republican primary.
Or can Republican voters actually vote for him again?
Let's see here. Elliot Broidy, a man who has a documented, felonious history of bribing public officials, was somehow able to get access to Trump and push for policies that led to him getting a 5 year, $600 million dollar contract from the UAE. At the same time, he was making payments to Trump's personal "lawyer", which the very honest Elliot Broidy tells us was to cover up his affair with Playmate Shera Bechard, who got pregnant and later had an abortion. Cohen used the exact same template for the NDA Bechard signed as the one used for the Daniels NDA (even the pseudonyms were the same) and made the payment through the same LLC he used to bribe Daniels. What a coincidence that Cohen had two clients who just happened to have a shared interests in Middle Eastern foreign policy who both needed to pay hush money to pornstars/playmates at roughly the time! To anyone not wearing M.A.G.A. glasses, this sure looks like Elliott Broidy paid a $1.6 million bribe to help President Trump cover up an affair with Shera Bechard, in exchange for the White House's help in obtaining multi-million dollar intelligence contracts. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-with-trump-not-broidy.html
Per Mark Penn wrote:
Another anti-Trump guy
Anyone who is meaningfully anti-Trump doesn't seriously use the term "deep state" seriously or make regular appearances on Fox News. Those are called "tells".
plaus this wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Reagan successfully implemented "plausible deniability". Trump won't be able to do that as he has always been known as a micro manager, and the evidence will be too strong that he knew what was going on.
2) Clinton was impeached for perjury. He shouldn't have been having a sexual affair with an intern, and especially not in the Oval Office, but this pales in comparison to what Trump has done...with Trump we have affairs (more to become public), we have evidence of serious criminal behavior, we have a White House that loves to leak which shows even his staff isn't loyal to him, and we have a serial liar as a President, so he will perjure himself when the time comes too.
3) If Trump isn't impeached (and convicted) or indicted or resigns under pressure, then our Constitution is worth crap. He has very openly and brazenly attacked the Rule of Law, attacked the fourth estate, accepted bribes, obstructed justice, and put himself in various blackmail-able situations.
To be clear, if Trump is found innocent and suffers no consequences, I will declare that he is innocent of all of these potential crimes and that I was wrong that he was a criminal. He will still be a horrible human being however...that will never change...he WILL remain a serial liar, an adulterer, a racist, a sexist, a misogynist and a whole bunch of other things, but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.
Found innocent, not guilty, or not charged? And does it have to be just one of the many things you stated Trump was guilty of all of them?
Flagpole will never admit that Trump was found innocent if the Mueller investigation finds nothing on the president. Despite the fact that the Mueller investigation is ongoing and nothing has come out on the president, Flagpole has already found Trump to be guilty of multiple crimes, obstruction of justice, bribery, etc., etc. Flagpole has annoited himself as judge and jury. Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence? You say if Trump is found innocent, you will declare him innocent of all these crimes but you have already proclaimed him GUILTY OF ALL THESE CRIMES. I am sure you will try to worm yourself out of everything you have said, just like you have time and time and time again.
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
... but if the investigation says he is innocent, I will accept that.
No you will not.
Do you ever feel like you're looking in the mirror when you make these comments?
Runningart2004 wrote:
Reagan escaped Iran/Contra....
Clinton escaped Lewinsky-gate....
I don’t see Trump being impeached or indicted...he will lose in 2020 though partially because of Mueller.
Alan
And nearly all of Nixon's operation walked away Scot free!
While I generally agree, also remember months-long denials in the case of Iran/Contra. Republicans went on a years long trawl to find anything to hang Clinton and could only get a morals charge. In every case one side strenuously objects to the other's efforts. In two of the cases, legitimate Constitutional crises arose.
As long as the rule of law is upheld, I'm fine with nothing coming from an investigation. Trump is such a useful idiot it's likely.
Dumby they play you like a fiddle.
Meanwhile in the real world Trump, and the people of the US, are winning.
"China announced Tuesday it will slash tariffs on imported cars, a move that could benefit the global auto industry.
China’s Finance Ministry said auto tariffs will be reduced from 25% to “around 13.8%,” and levies on car parts will come down from 10% to 6%."
DiscoGary wrote:
Meanwhile in the real world Trump, and the people of the US, are winning.
"China announced Tuesday it will slash tariffs on imported cars, a move that could benefit the global auto industry.
China’s Finance Ministry said auto tariffs will be reduced from 25% to “around 13.8%,” and levies on car parts will come down from 10% to 6%."
In world outside Disco's Trump Rat Maze.
- Consumer prices were up 2.1% in April from a year ago!
- 30-year fixed-rate mortgage has moved to a seven-year high above 4.6%!
- McDonald's has raised burger prices! Chipotle has raised burrito prices!
- Oil prices crossed $70 a barrel for the first time in more than three years!
- A gallon of gas is $2.91 — 24% higher than a year ago!
- Steel and aluminum prices are also going up!
- "A lot of that driven — or all of it driven by the impact of anticipated tariffs," a company chief financial officer told analysts.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/18/news/companies/amazon-mcdonalds-chipotle-walmart-prices/index.htmlI didn’t think anything political could shock me anymore, but I genuinely couldn’t have ever imagined how delusional the average "Republican" is when it comes to politics. Zero sophistication...believes everything their side of the media tells them. Left leaning journalism is subjectively found to be vastly more accurate than the right, but most people are still barely scratching the surface of the information available to them other than Flagpole and 1-2 other liberals. Based on this thread the average Canadian knows as much as the average American about American politics.