Robert Young fakes run across America

Lazy RY stalker wrote:

So far the state of IL has produced zero runners. (Laz doesn't count because he drove in from elsewhere). What about Effingham? Can we get some eyewitness reporting there? Throw us a bone..,

Nobody from Letsrun in MO or IL to join Rob. Terre Haute and Indianapolis are next up. Letsrun- all talk, no action. Except for Asher, we depend on a cigarette smoking old fart to do all the hard work.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Just posted on Runnersworld.com

http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/runner-attempting-trans-america-record-denies-cheating-allegations

"He pointed out that many of his running clothes are black with few reflective elements."

Just one more piece of straw to break this camel's back.

Why the hell would you run at night on highways, wearing black clothing with few reflective elements?

Uncle Jesse wrote:

Laz is da man wrote:

it's like Moses giving a sermon. Buy that man a pint or 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVmHbhKyyYA

Where are Daisy, Luke, and the General Lee?

I have a feeling this guy doesn't know anything about anything and forgot the rest.

good comedy wrote:

The problem is that you need people who are unemployed and yet have the money to go down and follow a slowly moving RV across america. How many people care enough about Rob Young cheating to drop thousands of dollars and weeks of their life to prove he's cheating? Not me.

The problem is that we need someone with half a brain to do it. From this video and his "updates," it looks like these guys are half a brain short.

Can someone help me decipher the KML files that are posted here?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBkfw48Jv6JlP0gBLP5JbPt6qz5Qfyf105fIXYa_hAk/edit?pref=2&pli=1#

If I can get the timestamp data back from the Mojave Desert breakdown day (May 18), I can combine it with a few other recently unearthed things to make a definitive case that RY cheated on that day. But they took that data down, and all I see on the KML file are random digits. A little help?

Ok,

I am caught up once again. A few comments. I think a cash rewards is the only way for the average person to realize someone is a fraud so i'm thinking of offering a cash reward for him to wear a watch the rest of the way and post it to strava - similar to the Rossi challenge.

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Just posted on Runnersworld.com

http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/runner-attempting-trans-america-record-denies-cheating-allegations

"He said that the RV could have stopped for gas while he continued running and the RV needed to catch up (at 6 miles per hour). He also said on busy roads, he sometimes runs on the opposite side of the road, facing traffic. “I could have been on the other side of the road. I don’t know. I could give you 50 different reasons,” Young said."

"In a later email (after they thought up a new story), Brooks provided a more detailed explanation of what happened that night. “At some point Rob dropped off the pace and Michael [a member of the crew], who was driving, failed to notice. So Rob ended up isolated. He continued on to a town and called Michael from a stranger’s phone to tell him to stop.”

"Brooks also wrote that the crew had been in contact with the car wash to review a lengthier portion of the footage. He said they found Young running by nine minutes after the RV"

So when first asked about it, Rob and his crew totally forgot about the time when they got separated by more than a half mile and Rob had to flag down a stranger to call the RV.

Then they remembered and clarified it in a later email. A one-time failure in their system of watching Rob's flashlight and him waving it when he's accosted by knife-wielding madmen and the RV immediately stopping so he could get in and they could drive off only to return to the same spot to resume running.

So they get a half mile and nine minutes (two miles with coffee) apart but don't notice.

Makes sense. I believe him.

rojo wrote:

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

Hi Rojo

I think people suggested a Garmin Forerunner 235 due to its inbuilt HRM, cadence stuff and good battery life.

rojo wrote:

Ok,

I am caught up once again. A few comments. I think a cash rewards is the only way for the average person to realize someone is a fraud so i'm thinking of offering a cash reward for him to wear a watch the rest of the way and post it to strava - similar to the Rossi challenge.

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

The TomTom watches will automatically log the cadence in each lap split. This is stored he doesn't have to turn this on or off. It would take two seconds for him to publish this.

Plaid pants wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Just posted on Runnersworld.com

http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/runner-attempting-trans-america-record-denies-cheating-allegations

"He pointed out that many of his running clothes are black with few reflective elements."

Just one more piece of straw to break this camel's back.

Why the hell would you run at night on highways, wearing black clothing with few reflective elements?

Of course he wouldn't! Nobody would. But he's in a corner and this is all he can offer up.

Next claim - he's got superpowers and can go invisible when he wants.

rojo wrote:

Ok,

I am caught up once again. A few comments. I think a cash rewards is the only way for the average person to realize someone is a fraud so i'm thinking of offering a cash reward for him to wear a watch the rest of the way and post it to strava - similar to the Rossi challenge.

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

Cash reward for one of his crew to flip on him?

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

rojo wrote:

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

Hi Rojo

I think people suggested a Garmin Forerunner 235 due to its inbuilt HRM, cadence stuff and good battery life.

How will you FedEx it to him?

The RV is always moving and at such a high speed it would be perilous to attempt delivery.

searcher of answers wrote:

That video doesn't muddy the waters at all. That's someone dressed in all black with no headtorch (which Rob wouldn't be) and casually strolling down the street. No way in hell anyone could believe that's Rob.

Odds that his crew will find an outfit for rob to wear that looks just like this for future photo ops??

Another point. I think as others have we should try to get more video proof of him not running with the RV. Does his tracking page - http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/fastest-crossing-of-america-usa-on-foot-live-tracking/ - let us go back in time and figure out where he was at a certain point in time?

runbikeswimrunsomemore wrote:

Has anyone thought to look for other surveillance video? Do any traffic cams store archives online? We should look at the times of his suspiciously fast runs (for example early morning hours of 5/29 - row 100:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtGrPEckX8y-2-zAFwUgzqCo4HYwUctZNOKDLbYD4Vk/edit#gid=130386114). Blog says he started out of White Rock, CO that night. His website shows his route as going though 3rd St. in La Junta. A couple banks on that street. They'd have video, right? Not sure I got this analysis right but its just an example.

Like as the guy above mentions, we could look for surveillance camera for White Rock but I have no idea that time he went through there. So when should we look?

I noticed the state of Colroado has traffic cams up. He ran by several of them on his trip. He ran right by this one for example as his tracking page shows him being on US 50 .2 miles easy of .28

and this one as well

I'm not sure if Colorado keeps past copies but we could request him.

But we can't really do it unless we know where he was at what times on certain days.

rojo wrote:

Ok,

I am caught up once again. A few comments. I think a cash rewards is the only way for the average person to realize someone is a fraud so i'm thinking of offering a cash reward for him to wear a watch the rest of the way and post it to strava - similar to the Rossi challenge.

People said there is a certain watch he should be wearing that he could prove hew as doing it as it does cadence, etc? Does he have this watch? I saw on his video he has two GPS watches. Has any of that data been posted? If he doesn't have the watch, please tell me the name of it and how it would prove things. I'll go buy it and fed ex it to him.

The only way is an impartial third party(ies) to watch him. If he's cheating, he is willing to go a hell of a long way to cheat. You could fake the GPS data, even with cadence, just riding in the RV.

You will need a GPS watch AND a 24 hour live feed on him - and then crowd source people watching the live feed 24 hours a day. The Answer - Shia LeBeouf's next live stream performance "art"... him riding in the RV behind Rob Young.

Rojo, I'm not sure a cash offer now is going to make a difference. The guy can cover long distances slowly (e.g., 147 miles on TM over 48 hours). He can probably jog/walk this thing the remainder of the way and get the record. Operation Geezer is with him now. RY is not riding in the RV any more. What I don't understand is why Operation Geezer hasn't insisted that Rob upload the data. Big fat hairy deal if RY finishes this thing with Operation Geezer observing. All that does is prevent RY from riding in the RV again. It doesn't provide any help towards what already happened, vis a viz the long distance and fast pace solo across the hot desert when the RV got towed or the incidents in KS.

We need the frickin data.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Just posted on Runnersworld.com

http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/runner-attempting-trans-america-record-denies-cheating-allegations

According to this, they are calling Asher a liar since they are claiming they have footage where Rob is RUNNING past the car wash 9 minutes after the RV passes.

Relay Batons are dangerous wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Hi Rojo

I think people suggested a Garmin Forerunner 235 due to its inbuilt HRM, cadence stuff and good battery life.

How will you FedEx it to him?

The RV is always moving and at such a high speed it would be perilous to attempt delivery.

I think you may have to consider tranquilizing him and tagging him with a radio collar for tracking. If you have an unwilling subject - like a Rhino, elephant, or leopard - that you want to track you need to take this approach. First though you have to track it down in its environment and catch it.

The 235 sounds like a good choice, but the battery life is not that good for something like this. You'd need to send him out with 2 or 3.

He HAS A DAMN WATCH that should be plenty good for this. And yet they still haven't been able to provide data (which at this point is probably fudged).

They can do a 45 minute facetime with a runnersworld reporter, but they can't upload data. This is laughable.

The numbers from the west section, coupled with playtime in casinos and side trips, coupled with the fact that he's only getting sunburnt and blisters NOW... in Illinois, weeks into the adventure. He had an unbelievable run out west. I mean that literally.