You can reexamine your religion all you want. But if you are skeptical, for example, that J. Christ is god's son who rose from dead, then you are not a Christian. You can't make yourself believe something you are skeptical about. It's impossible. Pascal's wager is illogical. It is fatally flawed.
We are having our Great Exalt next week. It will be a glorious affair, with high quality people. Top notch people. My kind of people.
What is the "Great Exalt"? Do you all become exalted?
It's this gig we get going. High quality people. Truly some of the best Americans you can find. We get together and do some exalting exercises, have discussion about issues facing those seeking exaltation. And do some boozing, to be honest.
Did you go to church today? It's Sunday. The Sabbath. A day of penitence. There shall be no work or frivolity on the Sabbath. You shouldn't even be on the internet, Fatnessism. But I guess if are discussing matters of faith (MOF) with me, it's okay.
In the 70s a white male like myself in the 35th to 50th percentile of performers would have a comfortable retirement when they got to 60-65 years old. In my town, you went to church on Sundays back then (Wednesdays too if you were a Baptist) and guys like Flagpole would have been ostracized for their beliefs. In red states we may be headed back to that. MGT and her belief in Christian Nationalism is spreading. (Luckily she did not call it National Christianism.) And guys why do you have to include insults in every post and why do the Brojos tolerate it?
Being a Christian nationalist isn’t going to bring those jobs back
Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.
There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.
The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues, If we live as though God exists, and He does indeed exist, we have gained heaven. If He doesn’t exist, we have lost nothing.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
Moreover, what is there *is* a supernatural, divine being (SDB)--but not the one you worship? And what if that SDB is jealous, and condemns all of those who worship the god-of-Abraham to eternal torture after death--while letting everybody else just die? You cannot *prove* that that isn't the case.
Finally, why is it that no one ever seems to think about what "eternal life" would mean? Someone gave me this image years ago:
Imagine a ball of lead the size of our sun i.e. bigger than a million Earths. Every hundred years a butterfly (immune to the ball's gravity somehow) flutters by, and brushes the ball once with a wingtip, liberating a few lead atoms--which, similarly immune to gravity, float away.
When that ball of lead is worn to nothing, long long long after the heat death of our universe, ONE SECOND of eternity will have elapsed. And eternity has an *infinite* number of such seconds.
Just imagine it. Every conceivable experience and sensation, over and over and over, with no possible escape--except perhaps through madness, and then it wouldn't really be *you* having eternal life, would it?
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
It’s very helpful for people to believe in something.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
Depends on the religion. Baps live long, but are not happy. Episcopos and Presbos don’t live long. Islamicalists don’t live long and are seldom happy. Jews can’t exactly be called happy. Morms are probably the only ones who are both happy and long living. And none of them ever get exalted.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
Biden is a pretty good Christian. Nowhere near Trump’s level of Christian (3rd percentile), but still pretty decent. Hardly anyone can touch Trump on his degree of Christainism.
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
Will wonders never cease: I agree with SV on something.
Guess I'm not cool enough to know what a poe is . . .
"Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, every parody of extreme views can [will!] be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied."--Wiki
We used to see Poe's Law mostly in religious discussions, but it's been generalized in recent years.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
this is the office water cooler, Sally - it's all good.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
This used to be the Biden thread, then it was the Tesla thread, now it appears to be the reliigion thread. Not hat that is bad - but maybe focus on Biden here?
Will wonders never cease: I agree with SV on something.
Republican speaker of AZ House Bowers says that Trump should be prosecuted for trying to corrupt the vote in GA. And says he will never vote for Trump again.
All you Republicans on the thread could decide to be good Americans and take the Bowers pledge. Be a real conservative instead of a 'conservative.'
Will Saletan @saletan . @jonkarl : What do you think of the prospects of DOJ prosecuting Trump? @speakerbowers : When I ... saw the video of him saying 'I just need 11,000 votes' — if I did that, or if the county supervisor did that to the county recorder, you're not going to just do that and walk away.
Will Saletan @saletan @jonkarl : "You're not supporting Trump again?" @speakerbowers : "No. ... My vote will never tarnish his name on a ballot." @jonkarl : "You're never again going to vote for Donald Trump?" @speakerbowers : "I’ll never vote for him."
Sen. Joe Manchin, Sen. Bill Cassidy & Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers were on "This Week" Sunday, July 31. This is a rush transcript and may be updated.
Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.
There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.
The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues, If we live as though God exists, and He does indeed exist, we have gained heaven. If He doesn’t exist, we have lost nothing.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
Moreover, what is there *is* a supernatural, divine being (SDB)--but not the one you worship? And what if that SDB is jealous, and condemns all of those who worship the god-of-Abraham to eternal torture after death--while letting everybody else just die? You cannot *prove* that that isn't the case.
Finally, why is it that no one ever seems to think about what "eternal life" would mean? Someone gave me this image years ago:
Imagine a ball of lead the size of our sun i.e. bigger than a million Earths. Every hundred years a butterfly (immune to the ball's gravity somehow) flutters by, and brushes the ball once with a wingtip, liberating a few lead atoms--which, similarly immune to gravity, float away.
When that ball of lead is worn to nothing, long long long after the heat death of our universe, ONE SECOND of eternity will have elapsed. And eternity has an *infinite* number of such seconds.
Just imagine it. Every conceivable experience and sensation, over and over and over, with no possible escape--except perhaps through madness, and then it wouldn't really be *you* having eternal life, would it?
What freedom has being Catholic cost me? I can do everything that I want
A lot of so-called “Christians” posting on the internet today (Sab Day) in violation of who knows how many Biblicalist Sabbath laws (Sab laws). I mean can we start calling it what it is?
America was built Biblicalist. The foundation is the core. You can’t serve a man fish for a thousand days and expect him to glorify god, as required by the manifest destiny guaranteed to us, irrespective of our integrity as true believers in the divine that we have been bestowed as a national treasure by those who killed for our freedom, above all restraints of the lessers and enfeebled of mind and body who shall never see The Kingdom of God (KOG) that they do desperately seek.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
And yet religious people live longer and happier earthly lives.
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