There was certainly damage done by BLM. But the foxers think cities were aflame and looked more like that 70s movie Escape from New York than anything else. They think it was actually dangerous to be in US cities. They still think that.
I live in a big blue coastal city that had lots of BLM activity. There was some broken window action. some preemptive boarded up windows, some looting. But you would never know it unless you went to the commercial districts and it was only one or two nights. Nothing like what the foxers think. Their view of the safety of American cities is severely messed up.
As for me, I am a good American. I have worked since I was 16, paid a lot of taxes. do a lot of community work, never committed any crimes, support myself and raised a family that has done very well. I am rich in every way. Never been in the military but many in my family have served, either in the armed forces or as first responders.
Yeah - just one or two broken windows. Agip -- you really do live in a liberal fantasy land. Try billions of dollars in destruction (does that sound like 1 or 2 broken windows) and 14,000 arrested. Get real Agip. You are sounding like you don't have a clue.
no, I accept the $2 bn number and condemn the violence. I don't quite understand how that number got so high, but that seems to be an actual number accepted by experts. The damage must have been concentrated in a few cities like Mpls.
I never denied the damage - I'm just saying foxers' view of what life is like in US cities is sickeningly perverse, because they believe Fox so whole-heartedly.
We on LRC all know that per capita violence in rural counties exceeds that of many or even most US cities. But foxers don't know that.
Decision Desk confirms 538’s flip yesterday to also predict a blue senate next year.
Because you are such putridly self-righteous human trash, I enjoy watching you delude yourself. You will be crying in 3 months and you've got it coming.
You could learn to read polls intelligently but you're too arrogant. Keep setting yourself up.
Decision Desk confirms 538’s flip yesterday to also predict a blue senate next year.
Because you are such putridly self-righteous human trash, I enjoy watching you delude yourself. You will be crying in 3 months and you've got it coming.
You could learn to read polls intelligently but you're too arrogant. Keep setting yourself up.
^^^^^^^^^
This poster ranks low on every metric of a good American. He scores particularly low on the three important ones (patriotism, finesse, wealth, marksmanship).
He is a terrible American. Down with Nancy Spungen and Scooter Libby.
The only win trump had was cutting taxes in good times and putting us all in even more debt. After that he failed over and over again.
Here Manchin changes his mind and agrees that working on climate change is an opportunity for this nation. Although we'll see what gets through the sausage factory of the US Congress.
Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) on Wednesday reached a deal with Democratic leaders on a spending package that aims to lower health-care costs, combat climate change and reduce the federal deficit, marking a massive potential breakthrough for President Biden’s long-stalled economic agenda. The new agreement, brokered between Manchin and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), opens the door for party lawmakers to try to advance the measure in the coming weeks. It caps off months of fierce debate, delay and acrimony, a level of infighting that some Democrats saw as detrimental to their political fate ahead of this fall’s critical elections. Under the deal, Schumer secured Manchin’s support for roughly $433 billion in new spending, most of which is focused on climate change and clean energy production — the largest such investment in U.S. history. The Democrats coupled the spending with provisions that aim to lower health-care costs for Americans, chiefly by allowing Medicare to begin negotiating the price of select prescription drugs on behalf of seniors.
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The term "recession" has a definition. We are not in a recession. A recession is not about your feelings. Job also have nothing to do with defining a recession. Jobs typically go away during a recession, but a lack of jobs or an abundance of jobs doesn't signal anything with regard to recession.
Also, inflation is NOT "out of control." It is high. Gas has been coming down for weeks. The Fed is going to raise rates. Supply chain issues are being worked out. Pent-up demand is now lessening, and even the housing bubble is said to be about to burst. None of those things suggest that inflation is "out of control." You are quite the alarmist...well, really what you are is partisan and part of the GOP cult. Maybe you will come to your senses one day.
Yes, recession has a widely accepted definition that people close to the administration are already trying to distance themselves from.
And according to the Atlanta fed tracker, we are already in the midst of a recession. The AFT has been a reliable predictor over the years.
We will find out on Thursday if we are then in a recession. I ONLY deal with facts, not what will be or what may be. As we sit here today, we are NOT in a recession.
If the second quarter was down, then we are in a recession. If not, the no. MOST indicators are that we will NOT be in recession come Thursday, but data often surprises people, so we will see.
You are damned right that inlation has a definition and here it is:
a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.
We find out tomorrow if we have been in a recession.
there are two definitions of 'recession' being used
1/ two straight quarters of neg GDP growth.
and
2/ officially, the National Bureau of Econ Research declares a recession's beginning and end.
Both are used often. Both have some truth to them. This time it's very possible that we get the first and not the second. Hard to imagine a recession with ultra-low 3.6% unemployment and skyrocketing tax receipts and record corporate profits, but we may get a second quarter of 'negative GDP growth.'
personally, I think post-pandemic data are mostly off in major ways. They just don't make any sense a lot of the time. So whatever we are seeing in the data is probably off by some material margin. Times are strange, gents.
I have ALWAYS rejected #2. #1 is the ONLY definition that I accept.
3) I do not go to any church. I am not a believer in the Christian myth. Jesus was a cool guy and all (who never answered to "Jesus" in his life), but he was no deity and was not the Son of God as there is no God. Christianity in the United States has devolved in my lifetime into magical "take the Bible literally" nonsense, and it has gone from helping the poor and the needy to don't take what's mine and let's keep those foreigners and anyone who is different than me out of here. A person CAN use the tenets of Christianity to help guide their life in a positive way, but too often today, Christianity is used to separate people, to demonize people, to justify abhorrent behavior, to show NO grace. So, no thanks.
J. Christ killed a fruit tree once. He was also rude to His mother at the wedding where he did the water-wine trick.
As President Trump once said: "To WIN a war, you have to BE a war." We, as Americans, should apply that advice in all our business and personal affairs. America is the land of manifest bounty. The Founding Fathers were J. Christ like in their beliefs. They killed for freedom. Our freedom is our liberty. We must denounce the enemies of America, wherever they may fester, and trash their homes.
I aim to be the best Exalted Man there is. I'm well on my way.
El Runkin
Tell me you're high without telling me you're high.
J. Christ killed a fruit tree once. He was also rude to His mother at the wedding where he did the water-wine trick.
As President Trump once said: "To WIN a war, you have to BE a war." We, as Americans, should apply that advice in all our business and personal affairs. America is the land of manifest bounty. The Founding Fathers were J. Christ like in their beliefs. They killed for freedom. Our freedom is our liberty. We must denounce the enemies of America, wherever they may fester, and trash their homes.
I aim to be the best Exalted Man there is. I'm well on my way.
El Runkin
I have no idea what point you are making about when Jesus cursed the fig tree.
Jesus was not rude to his mother in Cana. He did exactly what she wanted.
But what you are saying here is that you base you life on the words of the con man Donald Trump.
You would be much better off if you followed Jesus instead. Jesus never advocated war of any sort. He was gentle and loving. He showed kindness to the sinners and the downtrodden. That's the best way to live.
I take it that you are a Mormon? Does Mormonism teach that you should be a war?
I agree with you 100%. I will add this though...unfortunately MOST Americans who SAY they follow Jesus actually have NO IDEA what Jesus believed.
there are two definitions of 'recession' being used
1/ two straight quarters of neg GDP growth.
and
2/ officially, the National Bureau of Econ Research declares a recession's beginning and end.
Both are used often. Both have some truth to them. This time it's very possible that we get the first and not the second. Hard to imagine a recession with ultra-low 3.6% unemployment and skyrocketing tax receipts and record corporate profits, but we may get a second quarter of 'negative GDP growth.'
personally, I think post-pandemic data are mostly off in major ways. They just don't make any sense a lot of the time. So whatever we are seeing in the data is probably off by some material margin. Times are strange, gents.
I have ALWAYS rejected #2. #1 is the ONLY definition that I accept.
interesting fact you should know then.
The 2000-2002 dot-com recession never had two consecutive quarters of real GDP decline. It had two such quarters, but they were not consecutive. So by your shorthand rule, there was no recession. but obviously there was a decline in US econ activity - GDP shrunk a good amount.
Point is, the shorthand rule just isn't very good because it would deny the very real 2000-2002 recession ever happened. So you might want to reconsider your thinking, Flagpole.
Wikipedia:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001,[5] a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001. A peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a recession. The determination of a peak date in March is thus a determination that the expansion that began in March 1991 ended in March 2001 and a recession began.[5] The expansion lasted exactly 10 years, the longest in the NBER's chronology.[6]
However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters", and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
The only win trump had was cutting taxes in good times and putting us all in even more debt. After that he failed over and over again.
Here Manchin changes his mind and agrees that working on climate change is an opportunity for this nation. Although we'll see what gets through the sausage factory of the US Congress.
Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.) on Wednesday reached a deal with Democratic leaders on a spending package that aims to lower health-care costs, combat climate change and reduce the federal deficit, marking a massive potential breakthrough for President Biden’s long-stalled economic agenda. The new agreement, brokered between Manchin and Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), opens the door for party lawmakers to try to advance the measure in the coming weeks. It caps off months of fierce debate, delay and acrimony, a level of infighting that some Democrats saw as detrimental to their political fate ahead of this fall’s critical elections. Under the deal, Schumer secured Manchin’s support for roughly $433 billion in new spending, most of which is focused on climate change and clean energy production — the largest such investment in U.S. history. The Democrats coupled the spending with provisions that aim to lower health-care costs for Americans, chiefly by allowing Medicare to begin negotiating the price of select prescription drugs on behalf of seniors.
Seems like there have been a couple dozen "Manchin agrees to support Biden" announcements over the last year and a half. Each one seems to go up in smoke at the last second. They have the feel of Charlie Brown lining up to kick the football with Lucy holding it (this time).
I have ALWAYS rejected #2. #1 is the ONLY definition that I accept.
interesting fact you should know then.
The 2000-2002 dot-com recession never had two consecutive quarters of real GDP decline. It had two such quarters, but they were not consecutive. So by your shorthand rule, there was no recession. but obviously there was a decline in US econ activity - GDP shrunk a good amount.
Point is, the shorthand rule just isn't very good because it would deny the very real 2000-2002 recession ever happened. So you might want to reconsider your thinking, Flagpole.
Wikipedia:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001,[5] a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001. A peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a recession. The determination of a peak date in March is thus a determination that the expansion that began in March 1991 ended in March 2001 and a recession began.[5] The expansion lasted exactly 10 years, the longest in the NBER's chronology.[6]
However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters", and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
No, I am not going to rethink my position. A recession doesn't mean "bad economic times". We could have an extended period of time with very slow growth that would be MUCH WORSE than a short shallow recession. "Recession" isn't the worst thing. It just IS a thing.
The 2000-2002 dot-com recession never had two consecutive quarters of real GDP decline. It had two such quarters, but they were not consecutive. So by your shorthand rule, there was no recession. but obviously there was a decline in US econ activity - GDP shrunk a good amount.
Point is, the shorthand rule just isn't very good because it would deny the very real 2000-2002 recession ever happened. So you might want to reconsider your thinking, Flagpole.
Wikipedia:
According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001,[5] a period of eight months at the beginning of President George W. Bush's term of office. The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001. A peak marks the end of an expansion and the beginning of a recession. The determination of a peak date in March is thus a determination that the expansion that began in March 1991 ended in March 2001 and a recession began.[5] The expansion lasted exactly 10 years, the longest in the NBER's chronology.[6]
However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters", and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
No, I am not going to rethink my position. A recession doesn't mean "bad economic times". We could have an extended period of time with very slow growth that would be MUCH WORSE than a short shallow recession. "Recession" isn't the worst thing. It just IS a thing.
You are saying that an 8 month decline in GDP in 2001 was not in fact a recession. That’s nonsensical , Flagpole.
1) Unfortunately there are extreme people on both sides of the aisle. I do not support threatening the lives of conservatives over ANYTHING. I understand that elections have consequences.
2) No, I do not believe in God. I am assuming with that one comment that you DO believe in God. Which God is that? Currently in the world people pray to and believe in about 3,000 different Gods, and throughout human history, there have been about 18,000 different Gods/animals that were worshiped. I will go out on a limb here and assume you don't believe in any of those other Gods, so, of the current 3,000 or so Gods that are believed in in this world, you and I are in agreement that 2,999 of them do not exist. We just disagree on ONE of the 3,000 total. Maybe you should ponder on that a little bit.
3) The God you believe in (again, I am assuming a Judeo Christian God) is pretty damn hard to please. For one who is all powerful, he surely gives us a lot of grief in this world...hunger, disease, children dying of cancer. What the hell did a 3 year old ever do to deserve to die of cancer? Ah yes, God works in mysterious ways. If I suddenly were all powerful, I would be an a$hole if I didn't make the lives of people better. A being who is all powerful can STILL do that and STILL give people purpose and a need to work and on and on and yet make their lives better. Killing 3 year olds with disease or natural disasters or killing ANY innocent person by ANY means or maiming them in any way is not something that is worthy of praise.
4) When I die, I will be returned to the ground where I will fertilize the soil, and that will be it.
4)Correction: You will be tossed into the Lake of Fire after the Great White Throne Judgment. You don't want that to be your ultimate fate.
Just where is this Lake of Fire? Prove it to me. Prove to me that God exists...oh, and it has to be YOUR God. Why is YOUR God the only real one of the 3,000 Gods that are worshipped worldwide today? F*cking nutbar.
Any "loving" being who would banish a person to a "Lake of Fire" for eternity for using the logic they supposed gave them is an unreasonable being and not to be praised.
I didn't realize that YOU considered yourself a religious person. THAT is just MORE reason to further distance myself from religious people, because you are not only stupid but a HUGE a$$hole.
I'm cool with Jesus (even though he's not a deity). I am not cool with the vast majority of his followers (who really aren't following what he preached).
No, I am not going to rethink my position. A recession doesn't mean "bad economic times". We could have an extended period of time with very slow growth that would be MUCH WORSE than a short shallow recession. "Recession" isn't the worst thing. It just IS a thing.
You are saying that an 8 month decline in GDP in 2001 was not in fact a recession. That’s nonsensical , Flagpole.
If it's not two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, then it's not a recession. I didn't create the definition. Recession means what it means. It does NOT mean "bad economic conditions."
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