It's pretty obvious to anyone that isn't a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer that the Palestinians bombed their own hospital out of incompetence.
They will now leap onto the bodies and use the people they murdered to stoke further hatred of the Jews and half of the idiots here will join them in their unhinged anti-semitism.
You have seen al Jazeera video. You threw a red herring in there with Iran and 900 lbs. munitions to Gaza. You have zero evidence.
Look at video footage. Clearly much smaller light weight munitions fired by Gaza guerrillas.
That hit on Gaza hospital looks consistent with JDAM ordinance which arrived in Israel Sunday/Monday from U.S. Israelis did it.
I am not trying to convince you. Everyone who has thought about this has taken sides.
You are fine dragging U.S. into a Conflict for Israel. I am not.
Israelis and others only have two responses regarding bombing Gaza Hospital:
1) Lie & deny;
2) Justify. Say we told all Palestinians to leave.
Wow!
A sane voice shows up and immediately five downvotes ensue.
Unit 8200 on overdrive.
Bruvs, hating on Palestinians will not make your acne clear up. Will not make you break five in the mile. Will not get you laid. Moral compasses are going for cheap on eBay.
this is where you agreed with someone else that it was a jdam.
its called a logical conclusion. anyhow i was really replying to former soveits and to others directly sayinf it was a jdam. just because i hit the reply button after your post doesnt mean it was personal to you.
The refusal to believe Hamas--when they're on the phone saying we did it--reminds me of the old Onion piece about al Qaeda furious at truthers for undermining their legacy by withholding credit.
The refusal to believe Hamas--when they're on the phone saying we did it--reminds me of the old Onion piece about al Qaeda furious at truthers for undermining their legacy by withholding credit.
Hamas saying they did it, are they?
Where'd you get that?
Hamas terrorists in their own voices:
Listen to the conversation between Hamas operatives as they discuss the failed Islamic Jihad rocket launch on the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital on October 17, 2023. pic.twitter.com/mz31MiePU3
The refusal to believe Hamas--when they're on the phone saying we did it--reminds me of the old Onion piece about al Qaeda furious at truthers for undermining their legacy by withholding credit.
Now that it's confirmed that it wasn't Israel and it wasn't a hospital, are there any examples of Hamas supporters who have apologized for "Israel bombs hospital, killing 500"?
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Now that it's confirmed that it wasn't Israel and it wasn't a hospital, are there any examples of Hamas supporters who have apologized for "Israel bombs hospital, killing 500"?
Has it been confirmed already? I'll believe it if so. Yeah, I don't think you are going to see Hamas supporters do a 180 here, nor a majority of arabs who believed it... The arab states ran with that accusation too quickly and have stuck to it, calling Israel a bunch of liars. Israels mass bombings has exposed it to this kind of thing now - any Palestinian death is going to be tied back to them. It's not a winnable game for Israel and the west here.
Yeah this is pretty convincing. Basically, jihadi misfire drops on parking lot next to hospital, blows up a couple of cars, creates a small crater and sets fire to the surrounding area. Highly unlikely for 500 people to have died from that.
Takeaways from me:
1) When you are the one taking fire/bombings, it's always going to be easier to make false claims that stick and the international community will pay attention. Once everyone started to hear about the bombings and aggression, they were waiting for some "news" like this. I think Israel should have spent more time building international sympathy and support before their military response. They went fast and hard and the tide quickly shifted against them.
2) Biden didn't seem 100% convinced because his statement about Hamas being responsible was not so strong. Not sure what was up with that.
3) The Arab states are chaotic but they do come together when it's about Israel. They got behind this hospital story and it was all over international news. That is not our theater and we will always be disadvantaged against stuff like this.
"It's not a winnable game for Israel and the west here".
I don't think it's about winning. It's more about self preservation and long term viability.
Israel should ignore it's critics and completely level GAZA once and for all.
If it's about self preservation, then Bibi should have paid attention to border security and intel instead of trying to appease right-wing religious nutsos in the settlements. If it's about preservation, then leveling Gaza completely will trigger a regional war that Israel cannot win even with our help. We were not about to let them to that, and risk losing our footprint and influence in the region + potentially trigger a global conflict.
The reality is Israel will never live in peace and neither will the Palestinians who keep losing their land and people. That's sadly the best that can be hoped for.
Yeah this is pretty convincing. Basically, jihadi misfire drops on parking lot next to hospital, blows up a couple of cars, creates a small crater and sets fire to the surrounding area. Highly unlikely for 500 people to have died from that.
Takeaways from me:
1) When you are the one taking fire/bombings, it's always going to be easier to make false claims that stick and the international community will pay attention. Once everyone started to hear about the bombings and aggression, they were waiting for some "news" like this. I think Israel should have spent more time building international sympathy and support before their military response. They went fast and hard and the tide quickly shifted against them.
2) Biden didn't seem 100% convinced because his statement about Hamas being responsible was not so strong. Not sure what was up with that.
3) The Arab states are chaotic but they do come together when it's about Israel. They got behind this hospital story and it was all over international news. That is not our theater and we will always be disadvantaged against stuff like this.
They come together because they are united by anti-semitism which makes objectivity impossible for them.
500 people didn't die. If they did they were killed by Hamas and dragged to the scene to be photographed to manipulate people like you and AOC.
The refusal to believe Hamas--when they're on the phone saying we did it--reminds me of the old Onion piece about al Qaeda furious at truthers for undermining their legacy by withholding credit.
"It's not a winnable game for Israel and the west here".
I don't think it's about winning. It's more about self preservation and long term viability.
Israel should ignore it's critics and completely level GAZA once and for all.
If it's about self preservation, then Bibi should have paid attention to border security and intel instead of trying to appease right-wing religious nutsos in the settlements. If it's about preservation, then leveling Gaza completely will trigger a regional war that Israel cannot win even with our help. We were not about to let them to that, and risk losing our footprint and influence in the region + potentially trigger a global conflict.
The reality is Israel will never live in peace and neither will the Palestinians who keep losing their land and people. That's sadly the best that can be hoped for.
Oh ... you want Bibi to "pay attention" to border security but you are fine and dandy with Biden allowing 3 millions illegals into this country? Did I get it right?
If it's about self preservation, then Bibi should have paid attention to border security and intel instead of trying to appease right-wing religious nutsos in the settlements. If it's about preservation, then leveling Gaza completely will trigger a regional war that Israel cannot win even with our help. We were not about to let them to that, and risk losing our footprint and influence in the region + potentially trigger a global conflict.
The reality is Israel will never live in peace and neither will the Palestinians who keep losing their land and people. That's sadly the best that can be hoped for.
Oh ... you want Bibi to "pay attention" to border security but you are fine and dandy with Biden allowing 3 millions illegals into this country? Did I get it right?
Of the 3 million illegals Biden allowed in, how many might be ISIS, Hamas, Al Queda or Hezbollah? Do we want a repeat of what happened in Israel to happen here?
"Palestinians who keep losing their land and people"
But the Palestinians have never had a state. In reality, there is no ethnic difference between Palestinian Arabs, Syrians and Jordanians. Likewise, Palestinians have no culture peculiar to Palestine, nor do they have strong religious ties to it. The Koran, for example, never mentions Jerusalem. NOT ONCE!!
Jerusalem is cited more than 600 times in the Torah.
If the Palestinians were really interested in their own state, if that were their aspiration, they could have had such a state side-by-side with Israel, for a very long time.
They have flat out rejected EVERY peace offer with Israel that has been presented.
