Stop piling on Flagpole.
He is the only one on this thread that has gotten everything right so far.
He is so far ahead of the curve on this it makes me wonder if he has inside information or something.
Stop piling on Flagpole.
He is the only one on this thread that has gotten everything right so far.
He is so far ahead of the curve on this it makes me wonder if he has inside information or something.
You don't get it wrote:
Stop piling on Flagpole.
He is the only one on this thread that has gotten everything right so far.
He is so far ahead of the curve on this it makes me wonder if he has inside information or something.
I think he's a big boy and can take it.
Cry your salty tears, you Democrat Socialist donkeys.
"Whenever you can, act as a liberator. Freedom, dignity, wealth - these three together constitute the greatest happiness of humanity. If you bequeath all three to your people, their love for you will never die."
--Cyrus the Great
Democrats are Communists wrote:
"Whenever you can, act as a liberator. Freedom, dignity, wealth - these three together constitute the greatest happiness of humanity. If you bequeath all three to your people, their love for you will never die."
--Cyrus the Great
I thought Republicans hated Iran?
This just in! Many Republicans still hate gay people:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/us/gay-teachers-wife-texas.html
On the Level wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Where are these HRC supporters you speak of? Is she running for something?
1) You Trumpers can't get past Hillary Clinton. It is really ridiculous. She became yesterday's news the second the election was called for Trump. Those of us (the smart ones) who are against Trump are so due to his actions both before and since becoming President. Has nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary Clinton.
2) Trump is amoral for sure. Doesn't mean that others aren't. Just means that he is...demonstrably so. The problem for Trump is that his amorality has led to criminal behavior. His stupid supporters, including Christian conservatives, have decided to look the other way on his moral transgressions, but fortunately we are still a rule of law nation, and he will be punished.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Voters had two choices between two amoral major party candidates. Just because HRC lost doesn't mean her amorality goes away or doesn't mean anything.
Do you agree that HRC is amoral?
Plus, according to you, Trump is an illegitimate POTUS. The amoral HRC will be put in power soon. Afterall, Mueller is coming, right?
1) This is not about the election. You have to get past that. Saying that you don't support Trump NOW doesn't mean you wish you had voted for Hillary. Is there nothing a President can do while in office or is proven they did after being elected that would make you drop support for them? Since being elected, we have seen him attack the rule of law, lie with almost every breath, obstruct justice, found out that he did collude with Russia (definite proof there), found out that just about everyone he is associated with has a shady past that for some reason is connected to Russia, found out that his lawyer has engaged in criminal behavior that is very likely to make its way to Trump, and on and on. He didn't get rid of Obamacare. There is no wall and never will be one like he wants. Mexico will never pay a dime for it. Hillary will never be locked up. He said he wouldn't have time to play golf. He's just a HUGE liar, a criminal and a part-time president. Doesn't matter what Hillary ever did or what you think she did. She is not the President. We can't have a president in office who is so corrupt. If we accept this from him, then others will do it too, and one day it will be a Democrat who does it and is corrupt in pushing an agenda you don't agree with. Trump likes to say we are not a country without strong borders. I say we are not a country if we are beholden to another world power (Russia) because they have money and/or dirt on our president.
2) I don't agree that Hillary is amoral. I don't believe she has high morals, but she is not amoral like Trump is. I don't use the word "amoral" lightly, and I believe very few people are amoral. Trump is one of them.
3) I have not said Trump is an illegitimate President. I have been very clear that until it is proven that he has cheated that I was WRONG about him being elected, so that stands to reason that he would be a legitimate president until it is proven that he cheated.
4) Hillary will not be put in power if Trump is ousted. That is not how that works. That is perhaps how it SHOULD work in this case, but I'm glad it doesn't, because while she would be so much better than Trump, she has too much baggage, and I'd rather she not be President.
Mueller is coming...that is true. Unless Mike Pence also falls due to this investigation, he will become President. He is a religious nutbar who has no integrity (being honored to have Arpaio with him in Arizona), and he also doesn't have high morals, but he is not amoral like Trump is. It is possible he is a criminal too, but I will let the investigation determine that, and so far we don't have much evidence that he engaged in criminal behavior.
Also...the clown is done.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have no need to change my opinion or tactic on this subject whatsoever. I am both righteous and kind.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Your zealotry on the matter amuses and impresses me. I will enjoy a grand "I Told You So" more than an epic LRC shaming, so I hope you are right!
Well, then you are going to enjoy it, because I AM right today and will be PROVEN right when the investigation is over.
Flagpole wrote:
Racket wrote:
Your zealotry on the matter amuses and impresses me. I will enjoy a grand "I Told You So" more than an epic LRC shaming, so I hope you are right!
Well, then you are going to enjoy it, because I AM right today and will be PROVEN right when the investigation is over.
What are you right about today and what will you be right about when the investigation is over?
...just for the record. :)
Flagpole wrote:
On the Level wrote:
Voters had two choices between two amoral major party candidates. Just because HRC lost doesn't mean her amorality goes away or doesn't mean anything.
Do you agree that HRC is amoral?
Plus, according to you, Trump is an illegitimate POTUS. The amoral HRC will be put in power soon. Afterall, Mueller is coming, right?
1) This is not about the election. You have to get past that. Saying that you don't support Trump NOW doesn't mean you wish you had voted for Hillary. Is there nothing a President can do while in office or is proven they did after being elected that would make you drop support for them? Since being elected, we have seen him attack the rule of law, lie with almost every breath, obstruct justice, found out that he did collude with Russia (definite proof there), found out that just about everyone he is associated with has a shady past that for some reason is connected to Russia, found out that his lawyer has engaged in criminal behavior that is very likely to make its way to Trump, and on and on. He didn't get rid of Obamacare. There is no wall and never will be one like he wants. Mexico will never pay a dime for it. Hillary will never be locked up. He said he wouldn't have time to play golf. He's just a HUGE liar, a criminal and a part-time president. Doesn't matter what Hillary ever did or what you think she did. She is not the President. We can't have a president in office who is so corrupt. If we accept this from him, then others will do it too, and one day it will be a Democrat who does it and is corrupt in pushing an agenda you don't agree with. Trump likes to say we are not a country without strong borders. I say we are not a country if we are beholden to another world power (Russia) because they have money and/or dirt on our president.
2) I don't agree that Hillary is amoral. I don't believe she has high morals, but she is not amoral like Trump is. I don't use the word "amoral" lightly, and I believe very few people are amoral. Trump is one of them.
3) I have not said Trump is an illegitimate President. I have been very clear that until it is proven that he has cheated that I was WRONG about him being elected, so that stands to reason that he would be a legitimate president until it is proven that he cheated.
4) Hillary will not be put in power if Trump is ousted. That is not how that works. That is perhaps how it SHOULD work in this case, but I'm glad it doesn't, because while she would be so much better than Trump, she has too much baggage, and I'd rather she not be President.
Mueller is coming...that is true. Unless Mike Pence also falls due to this investigation, he will become President. He is a religious nutbar who has no integrity (being honored to have Arpaio with him in Arizona), and he also doesn't have high morals, but he is not amoral like Trump is. It is possible he is a criminal too, but I will let the investigation determine that, and so far we don't have much evidence that he engaged in criminal behavior.
Also...the clown is done.
1) "We can't have a president in office who is so corrupt." Why did you vote for Hillary then?
2) Don't agree that Hillary is amoral? That's all we need to know about you and your credibility.
3) Which will never happen. Let me tell you how politics work. Even if he is found guilty of collusion (which he will not be), he will still be President until at least 2021.
4) It's how you want it to work. You want Hillary as President. You voted for her even though she and the DNC rigged the primary in her favor. You voted for a fraud who most likely would not have been the Democratic candidate if not for her and the DNC's trangressions.
5) I guess you are now on the record as saying the Mueller investigation will lead to Trump NOT serving out his full term. Good to know. You certainly have no knowledge of how the system works.
They are still chanting “Lock Her Up” at these things... Very sad that so many people are detached from reality.
your brother wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Where are these HRC supporters you speak of? Is she running for something?
1) You Trumpers can't get past Hillary Clinton. It is really ridiculous. She became yesterday's news the second the election was called for Trump. Those of us (the smart ones) who are against Trump are so due to his actions both before and since becoming President. Has nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary Clinton.
2) Trump is amoral for sure. Doesn't mean that others aren't. Just means that he is...demonstrably so. The problem for Trump is that his amorality has led to criminal behavior. His stupid supporters, including Christian conservatives, have decided to look the other way on his moral transgressions, but fortunately we are still a rule of law nation, and he will be punished.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
1) People can still support Clinton even if she is not running. There are supporters out there saying she should be POTUS because of Russian collusion, won the popular vote, etc.
2) She's not yesterday's news. According to her supporters, Dems, and other idiots, she is the legitimate POTUS. Do you not agree. Trump did steal the election after all.
3) If it turns out that Trump is not done, will you never post on this message board again? It is a slam dunk right? Mueller is coming. The clown is done.
1) Technically you are correct. VERY few Democrats are calling for her to be the President due to the Russian collusion, and anyone who says so because of the popular vote thing is just nuts. There is no organized support for her, and in fact, many of my fellow Democrats are glad to see the Clintons in the rear view mirror.
2) There is no big movement or thought that Hillary is the legitimate President. Trump DID cheat, and that will be proven. I can not and never will say that his cheating is what made him win, for that can not be proven. It also can not be proven that the cheating DIDN'T make him win either. She IS yesterday's news except to you Trumpers who like to bring her up all the time.
3) Whether Trump is done or not (he is) will not determine if I post here again. I post here if I find a topic interesting. Right now, the historic corruption of our President is interesting. Horrifying, but interesting. I don't have a fragile ego like most humans, so if I'm wrong about this (I'm not) I don't need to run and hide. So again, if I post after this investigation is over (whether I am right or wrong) it will only be because there is a topic that interests me.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
We will find out one day kind of out of the blue like we did with Manafort and Gates, that Don Jr., Michael Cohen (he may be indicted first by the Southern District of New York), Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have been indicted. In that list MIGHT be Carter Page, but it is likely we will find out he has been cooperating for a while, so I'm not sure what happens with him. Hope Hicks might be indicted. Ivanka MIGHT skate.
With Trump himself, either he will be mentioned with all of the ones above (and likely others), OR it will come later.
The interesting part will be if the DOJ decides it can indict Trump or if they go the impeachment route first. The rule that the DOJ won't indict a sitting president is a silly one. What if a President pulls out a gun and kills a political rival in front of a lot of people? No murder indictment? Seems there has to be a line somewhere. IS being a traitor the line?
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
foo wrote:
They are still chanting “Lock Her Up” at these things... Very sad that so many people are detached from reality.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-stumps-republicans-debuts-campaign-slogan-indiana/story?id=55087236
They still have billboards with HRC in an orange jumpsuit across West Virginia. The toothless mouth breathers can’t get enough!
Never has an opposition candidate remained so popular this long after an election is OVER. Trump is obsessed because
1) it soothes his ego to remember he won so he has to constantly remind himself;
2) he needs to keep her in his line up of people to blame for just about everything other than himself;
3) he is well aware he got the stick way behind during the election and despite using all kinds of desperate and divisive tactics was only able to narrowly win after being handed a rocket pack from Comey and Putin.
So given the above, sure I get why trumpers are so obsessed.
Nothing but class from the WH. And no trumpers it isn't fake news since she apologized for the comment.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/10/politics/white-house-kelly-sadler-john-mccain/index.html
They're of limited intelligence, and lack the critical thinking ability to acknowledge any facts which run counter to their confirmation biases. Stupid people lap this stuff up.
Flagpole wrote:
On the Level wrote:
Voters had two choices between two amoral major party candidates. Just because HRC lost doesn't mean her amorality goes away or doesn't mean anything.
Do you agree that HRC is amoral?
Plus, according to you, Trump is an illegitimate POTUS. The amoral HRC will be put in power soon. Afterall, Mueller is coming, right?
1) This is not about the election. You have to get past that. Saying that you don't support Trump NOW doesn't mean you wish you had voted for Hillary. Is there nothing a President can do while in office or is proven they did after being elected that would make you drop support for them? Since being elected, we have seen him attack the rule of law, lie with almost every breath, obstruct justice, found out that he did collude with Russia (definite proof there), found out that just about everyone he is associated with has a shady past that for some reason is connected to Russia, found out that his lawyer has engaged in criminal behavior that is very likely to make its way to Trump, and on and on. He didn't get rid of Obamacare. There is no wall and never will be one like he wants. Mexico will never pay a dime for it. Hillary will never be locked up. He said he wouldn't have time to play golf. He's just a HUGE liar, a criminal and a part-time president. Doesn't matter what Hillary ever did or what you think she did. She is not the President. We can't have a president in office who is so corrupt. If we accept this from him, then others will do it too, and one day it will be a Democrat who does it and is corrupt in pushing an agenda you don't agree with. Trump likes to say we are not a country without strong borders. I say we are not a country if we are beholden to another world power (Russia) because they have money and/or dirt on our president.
2) I don't agree that Hillary is amoral. I don't believe she has high morals, but she is not amoral like Trump is. I don't use the word "amoral" lightly, and I believe very few people are amoral. Trump is one of them.
3) I have not said Trump is an illegitimate President. I have been very clear that until it is proven that he has cheated that I was WRONG about him being elected, so that stands to reason that he would be a legitimate president until it is proven that he cheated.
4) Hillary will not be put in power if Trump is ousted. That is not how that works. That is perhaps how it SHOULD work in this case, but I'm glad it doesn't, because while she would be so much better than Trump, she has too much baggage, and I'd rather she not be President.
Mueller is coming...that is true. Unless Mike Pence also falls due to this investigation, he will become President. He is a religious nutbar who has no integrity (being honored to have Arpaio with him in Arizona), and he also doesn't have high morals, but he is not amoral like Trump is. It is possible he is a criminal too, but I will let the investigation determine that, and so far we don't have much evidence that he engaged in criminal behavior.
Also...the clown is done.
It is and has ALWAYS been about the election to you guys. To say otherwise shows that you're an idiot.
We're NOT Laughing With You wrote:
Even if he is found guilty of collusion (which he will not be), he will still be President until at least 2021.
There isn't a legal thing called collusion as it relates to "crimes against the State." Moreover, the chances Trump himself is actually prosecuted for anything was always quite slim given he's the President.
Does that mean that the Dear Leader and the Dear Leader's supporters are legitimized? No. The rhetoric used and re-used so precisely, so frequently, is a circular argument. Treat it like propaganda, because that's what it is.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
We're NOT Laughing With You wrote:
Even if he is found guilty of collusion (which he will not be), he will still be President until at least 2021.
There isn't a legal thing called collusion as it relates to "crimes against the State." Moreover, the chances Trump himself is actually prosecuted for anything was always quite slim given he's the President.
Does that mean that the Dear Leader and the Dear Leader's supporters are legitimized? No. The rhetoric used and re-used so precisely, so frequently, is a circular argument. Treat it like propaganda, because that's what it is.
I agree. This investigation will end up being a big nothingburger.
why are there so many dumb liberals on this thread?
cant u all just accept that you lost big league and continue to lose as this administration ticks off boxes on its agenda?
like, just, go away and shut up for once can u do that ?
Flagpole wrote:
We will find out one day kind of out of the blue like we did with Manafort and Gates, that Don Jr., Michael Cohen (he may be indicted first by the Southern District of New York), Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have been indicted. In that list MIGHT be Carter Page, but it is likely we will find out he has been cooperating for a while, so I'm not sure what happens with him. Hope Hicks might be indicted. Ivanka MIGHT skate.
With Trump himself, either he will be mentioned with all of the ones above (and likely others), OR it will come later.
The interesting part will be if the DOJ decides it can indict Trump or if they go the impeachment route first. The rule that the DOJ won't indict a sitting president is a silly one. What if a President pulls out a gun and kills a political rival in front of a lot of people? No murder indictment? Seems there has to be a line somewhere. IS being a traitor the line?
Your confidence is misplaced. Trump is the alter-ego to Clinton. Neither are going to jail, neither actually prosecuted for anything for 10000000001 different reasons.
Trump is many things, most of them quite wrong according to mainstream religions. That's different than any kind of legal consequences.