2016 Dubai Marathon Results and Tracking
January 22, 2016
RackinUpYourStackMoney wrote:
the live feed wrote:Don't know. How about "Hurry up, there's a fricking 100k bonus for the course record"?
He said, "Fock bitchez, obtain monetary fund$."
No, actually he said " Gobble, gobble, motherf*ker". In Amaric, of course.
Who are those Professors in the results? It says Prof. Tsegaye Gebreselassie and such.
Or does it mean Professional as in paid pacers?
+ tell an official at the finish that they need to be drug tested otherwise they won't get the 30k record!
rojo wrote:
If you are Ethiopia, what do you do in terms of the Olympics? DO you put Abera - a COMPLETE no-name - on the Olympics? Remember, they were ripped for their decision in London.
You go with the one who has the best EPO regime
Not elite but elitist wrote:
front runners exchanging words to each other like it's an easy run
"Hey boys, this unlimited EPO run is great"
last year I would have been excited about this new guy
this year I can only assume that he is a druggie who has not been subject to out of competition test.
they have to fix this
Right, Ethiopia is full of young drugged up runners. No real talent anywhere.
not mutually exclusive. Off course theire talented but are perhaps druged at the same time?
yyy wrote:
not mutually exclusive. Off course theire talented but are perhaps druged at the same time?
No, only Paula can be drugged of course
64F + 83% humidity = talent times drugs
there's no out of competition testing in Kenya or Ethiopia, right? My understanding is that it just doesn't exist. (Although I get tied up in the difference between blood and urine tests. )Since Kenyans are drugging up, why wouldn't Ethiopians be doing the same?Hey, I'd love to get happy about an unknown running 2:04. But unless and until there is out of competition testing in Kenya and Ethiopia we have to pretty much disregard those two countries.
letstalkshit wrote:
Right, Ethiopia is full of young drugged up runners. No real talent anywhere.
and I also understand that unknowns are never going to be tested out of competition - they aren't on anyone's radar, by definition, so no one is knocking on their door.
I thnk the marathon majors need to have their own system - no one is eligible unless they are OOC tested three times over the prior 12 months.
agip wrote:
there's no out of competition testing in Kenya or Ethiopia, right? My understanding is that it just doesn't exist.
(Although I get tied up in the difference between blood and urine tests. )
Since Kenyans are drugging up, why wouldn't Ethiopians be doing the same?
Hey, I'd love to get happy about an unknown running 2:04. But unless and until there is out of competition testing in Kenya and Ethiopia we have to pretty much disregard those two countries.
letstalkshit wrote:Right, Ethiopia is full of young drugged up runners. No real talent anywhere.
You must be a mental man if you think that there's any country in the world that testers just look at the list and go, "Oh, he's in Ethiopia. Yeah. Can't fly there. It's a shame, really." Would not every user in the world, throwers and sprinters a like, all flock to a place where they would never be tested 12 months out of the year? There's been out of competition testing everywhere for decades. You'll recall John Ngugi was banned for refusing to submit a urine sample at his home in Kenya in 1993. Though I understand you may be on the younger side to be familiar with Ngugi, I don't know how you could have missed both Rita Jeptoo and Mathew Kisorio so recently being felled in Kenya during out of competition tests.
When there is no accredited national anti-doping agency, testers from outside the country in question fly in to test in order to fill in the gaps. Because of that distance to travel, there have not been, as of yet, blood OOC tests in Kenya and Ethiopia, though I should mention both that blood tests constitute very much a minority of all OOC tests and that this problem will be remedied with the opening of an East African lab accredited to handle the blood work.
Left Said Fred wrote:
agip wrote:there's no out of competition testing in Kenya or Ethiopia, right? My understanding is that it just doesn't exist.
(Although I get tied up in the difference between blood and urine tests. )
Since Kenyans are drugging up, why wouldn't Ethiopians be doing the same?
Hey, I'd love to get happy about an unknown running 2:04. But unless and until there is out of competition testing in Kenya and Ethiopia we have to pretty much disregard those two countries.
You must be a mental man if you think that there's any country in the world that testers just look at the list and go, "Oh, he's in Ethiopia. Yeah. Can't fly there. It's a shame, really." Would not every user in the world, throwers and sprinters a like, all flock to a place where they would never be tested 12 months out of the year? There's been out of competition testing everywhere for decades. You'll recall John Ngugi was banned for refusing to submit a urine sample at his home in Kenya in 1993. Though I understand you may be on the younger side to be familiar with Ngugi, I don't know how you could have missed both Rita Jeptoo and Mathew Kisorio so recently being felled in Kenya during out of competition tests.
When there is no accredited national anti-doping agency, testers from outside the country in question fly in to test in order to fill in the gaps. Because of that distance to travel, there have not been, as of yet, blood OOC tests in Kenya and Ethiopia, though I should mention both that blood tests constitute very much a minority of all OOC tests and that this problem will be remedied with the opening of an East African lab accredited to handle the blood work.
hey give me a list of ethiopians caught by out of competition testing.
absent that, show me the number of out of compeition tests in ethiopia
You people are a bunck of saddos. There is almost umlimited talent in Ethiopia. Some of them race without shoes. Have they spend all of their money on drugs?
Nutella1 wrote:
Renato Canova wrote:The fact is Dubai is the fastest course in the World.
False. Berlin is. Haile was trying so many times to capture the $1 Million in Dubai and he failed every single time.
Nonsense. I´ve run both and Dubai is faster. Lot less turns. The reason Geb blew it in Dubai was because he almost always went out to fast, like running the first 10k in 28,30.
agip wrote:
Left Said Fred wrote:You must be a mental man if you think that there's any country in the world that testers just look at the list and go, "Oh, he's in Ethiopia. Yeah. Can't fly there. It's a shame, really." Would not every user in the world, throwers and sprinters a like, all flock to a place where they would never be tested 12 months out of the year? There's been out of competition testing everywhere for decades. You'll recall John Ngugi was banned for refusing to submit a urine sample at his home in Kenya in 1993. Though I understand you may be on the younger side to be familiar with Ngugi, I don't know how you could have missed both Rita Jeptoo and Mathew Kisorio so recently being felled in Kenya during out of competition tests.
When there is no accredited national anti-doping agency, testers from outside the country in question fly in to test in order to fill in the gaps. Because of that distance to travel, there have not been, as of yet, blood OOC tests in Kenya and Ethiopia, though I should mention both that blood tests constitute very much a minority of all OOC tests and that this problem will be remedied with the opening of an East African lab accredited to handle the blood work.
hey give me a list of ethiopians caught by out of competition testing.
absent that, show me the number of out of compeition tests in ethiopia
Left Said Fred wrote:
agip wrote:http://www.iaaf.org/download/download?filename=ed42193b-f513-4c45-aefd-0de2659b1a6d.pdf&urlslug=The%20IAAF%20Doping%20Control%20Programme%2C%202012%20-%20List%20of%20Tested%20Athletes%20hey give me a list of ethiopians caught by out of competition testing.
absent that, show me the number of out of compeition tests in ethiopia
anything more recent than 2012?
And NO ONE caught?
er ok.
but point taken
I'm really tired to read all the bullshits that people who don't know anything write about Kenya, Ethiopia and doping.
I explained a lot of times that there are a lot of antidoping tests in Kenya and Ethiopia, but there are not blood tests. So, stop thinking everybody can do what he wants, since illegal substances can be found in urine tests only.
Some data, referred at 2012 :
KENYA : 129 athletes tested OOC, with a total of 364 tests
ETHIOPIA : 75 athletes testsed OOC, with a total of 193 tests
USA : 79 athletes tested OOC, with a total of 189 tests.
These are facts, but of course when somebody of WADA wants to appear as the "saver" of the sport (for his own interest), and when a Federation like AK is not able to take a right position, at first fighting the "periferal" domestic doping of the second and third level athletes (well known), and secondly becoming able to explain the truth, instead trying fake investigations for giving a clean image to the world ; and when media are not interested to know the reality, but ride scoops creating in ignorant people false ideas,
the final result is that everybody thinks all Kenyans and Ethiopians are doped.
I respect Seppelt for his investigation about Russian situation : this was a TRUE investigation, lasting long time, and producing effects that, I hope, can clean athletics (the fact to finally catch Lamine Diack and his son, after the rumours there were from long time, it's a very important result).
I don't respect Seppelt when he speaks about "widespread doping in Kenya after deep investigation", when I know the investigation last 4 days, and there were not real evidences, apart the words of a doctor in Kapsabet, cheated by Seppelt himself (who told him was a new manager), and anxious to show his ability to support top Kenyans with illegal substances.
I don't respect Ashenden and Parisotto who, after working for the Biological Passport, say that there are suspicious data for more than 50 Kenyans, basing their suspicion on an average of 2.4 tests for each athlete, when they well know that, without at least 7-9 tests that can really show deep fluctuations, nobody can give any signification to the test itself, especially if carried out BEFORE having clear rules about how to take blood, the situation (OOC or after a race), weather, altitude, etc...
I continue to say that, if scientists don't know the effects of training, they can't speak about the effects of doping, and NO SCIENTISTS INVOLVED IN BIOLOGICAL PASSPORT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THE DATA OF ATHLETES BORN, LIVING AND TRAINING IN ALTITUDE.
But, of course, for media the most important argument, at the moment, in the sport is doping. This created the idea (this really "widespread") that in every sport the best are doped, because without illegal supports is not possible to be at the top.
Everybody can have his opinion, and of sure I don't say nobody is doped among Kenyan and Ethiopian runners. But I can't accept that facts must be manipulated, or not known, and people can base their opinion on something clearly not true.
Jonathan Gault wrote:
The guy who was running with Melkamu went all the way to the finish line but didn't cross it. Are they not allowed to? If a guy paces a woman for an entire marathon, he should at least be allowed to finish!
It looked like he kept running right into the front of Melkamu down the stretch, preventing her from going any faster.
Pangolin wrote:
He may not want that time anywhere on his resume.
Hahaha I was thinking the same thing.