According to Houlihan, the pork for the “Maw (pig stomach) burritos” was “pork stomach” from IBP and for the Chorizos “pork butts boneless” from Farmland Foodservices. She sent that info to the AIU on 2/18/2021.
But keep pretending that they all lied, and kidneys and pork fat were bought separately and secretly put into the burrito. Why not, it’s not like you have any credibility to lose.
As for little obfuscation trick, was it "offal" or "stomach offal"? Well, only stomach offal was on the menu ("the buche (maw/pig stomach) burrito") according to food truck owner
P.S. 1: Yes, Houlihan preferred to call it "offal", but the food truck only served "stomach offal" as quoted above. Therefore, only stomach offal was discussed by all parties. Stop misleading.
P.S. 2: Good for you to understand that the piglets must have been younger than 12 months, and not at all 3 years. Maybe you should stop arguing about that too.
Do you really think it included kidneys and whatnot, yet Houlihan preferred to never mention it?
I do remember, but is it true?
What I think is that we cannot determine the facts by inferring based on what Houlihan allegedly failed to argue. An ingredient list would settle it. But the fact remains that the WA experts did not even rebut the claims that were there. They did not completely rebut Houlihan's claim of consumption of "offal", but rather selectively rebutted pork meat and stomach without any justification that these were the only pork ingredients to be considered. They clearly failed to rebut "fat" and "chorizo". There was no explanation from the CAS why the remaining burrito ingredients were not identified and were excluded from consideration.
Again: you keep ignoring the fact that she had a beef burrito. Beef burritos do not contain pork or pork nuts. Aaannd, instead of eating 6 pork testi-ritos, what it would have taken to get the nandro #s she pegged, she had a couple bites because it was super gross and greasy.
Anywho, best of luck on the comeback, i hope she gets some closure
Again: you keep ignoring the fact that she had a beef burrito. Beef burritos do not contain pork or pork nuts. Aaannd, instead of eating 6 pork testi-ritos, what it would have taken to get the nandro #s she pegged, she had a couple bites because it was super gross and greasy.
Anywho, best of luck on the comeback, i hope she gets some closure
According to Houlihan, the pork for the “Maw (pig stomach) burritos” was “pork stomach” from IBP and for the Chorizos “pork butts boneless” from Farmland Foodservices. She sent that info to the AIU on 2/18/2021.
But keep pretending that they all lied, and kidneys and pork fat were bought separately and secretly put into the burrito. Why not, it’s not like you have any credibility to lose.
As for little obfuscation trick, was it "offal" or "stomach offal"? Well, only stomach offal was on the menu ("the buche (maw/pig stomach) burrito") according to food truck owner
P.S. 1: Yes, Houlihan preferred to call it "offal", but the food truck only served "stomach offal" as quoted above. Therefore, only stomach offal was discussed by all parties. Stop misleading.
P.S. 2: Good for you to understand that the piglets must have been younger than 12 months, and not at all 3 years. Maybe you should stop arguing about that too.
It looks like you are the one misleading here.
Speaking of losing credibiility, the 2/18/2021 entry in Houlihan's timeline makes no mention of "Maw (pig stomach) burritos" or "chorizo". Nor does it say that these details were sent to the AIU, nor that this was the maximum extent of discussion by all parties about pork consumption.
But she did tell the AIU on Jan. 20th, 2021, that "we believe the source of nandrolone was from "pig offal"". This means the AIU was put on notice for all pig organs. A complete rebuttal requires first identifying an ingredient list to know which edible pork parts are included, and which can be excluded, and then rebutting all that remains.
P.S. 1: Nobody called the burritos "stomach offal". It looks like you are quoting yourself. However, "pig offal" was discussed by Houlihan's party to the AIU as early as Jan. 20th, 2021.
P.S. 2: Piglets are up to +/- 3 weeks old. Speaking of lost credibility, whether 12 months or three years, WA's expert witness said the pigs were at most 6-months old. What else did the experts wrongly assert? Cryptorchids? Corn diet? Pork meat and stomach? Lab results around -18.5 to -21‰? Many of the CAS findings assume the expert witnesses were giving correct information.
According to Houlihan, the pork for the “Maw (pig stomach) burritos” was “pork stomach” from IBP and for the Chorizos “pork butts boneless” from Farmland Foodservices. She sent that info to the AIU on 2/18/2021.
But keep pretending that they all lied, and kidneys and pork fat were bought separately and secretly put into the burrito. Why not, it’s not like you have any credibility to lose.
As for little obfuscation trick, was it "offal" or "stomach offal"? Well, only stomach offal was on the menu ("the buche (maw/pig stomach) burrito") according to food truck owner
P.S. 1: Yes, Houlihan preferred to call it "offal", but the food truck only served "stomach offal" as quoted above. Therefore, only stomach offal was discussed by all parties. Stop misleading.
P.S. 2: Good for you to understand that the piglets must have been younger than 12 months, and not at all 3 years. Maybe you should stop arguing about that too.
It looks like you are the one misleading here.
Speaking of losing credibiility, the 2/18/2021 entry in Houlihan's timeline makes no mention of "Maw (pig stomach) burritos" or "chorizo". Nor does it say that these details were sent to the AIU, nor that this was the maximum extent of discussion by all parties about pork consumption.
But she did tell the AIU on Jan. 20th, 2021, that "we believe the source of nandrolone was from "pig offal"". This means the AIU was put on notice for all pig organs. A complete rebuttal requires first identifying an ingredient list to know which edible pork parts are included, and which can be excluded, and then rebutting all that remains.
P.S. 1: Nobody called the burritos "stomach offal". It looks like you are quoting yourself. However, "pig offal" was discussed by Houlihan's party to the AIU as early as Jan. 20th, 2021.
P.S. 2: Piglets are up to +/- 3 weeks old. Speaking of lost credibility, whether 12 months or three years, WA's expert witness said the pigs were at most 6-months old. What else did the experts wrongly assert? Cryptorchids? Corn diet? Pork meat and stomach? Lab results around -18.5 to -21‰? Many of the CAS findings assume the expert witnesses were giving correct information.
Rekrunner is either Shelby or someone close to or related to her.
At this point no one believes Shelby, not even the media who still coddles her. Her burrito excuse was a total joke.
Ultimately as the AIU pointed out, even if the meat was exactly what she claimed it to be, Shelby would have had to eat the equivalent of 2 1/2 burritos in order to test positive for the amount she had in her system. She only eat 2/3rds of a burrito that night.
Agree, dumbasses arguing over the construction of a 4 yr old foodcart menu.
That was mean. But ya I'll do better from now on.
It would have been better to address the original stated concern rather than trying to relitigate the CAS findings.
Who has made the affirmative case for intentional exogenous nandrolone consumption? This was an explicit request to stop talking about pigs, and talk about how the public knows she knowingly ingested exogenous nandrolone, such that they can call her a "drug cheat"? This cannot be determined through an incomplete process of elimination.
Rekrunner is either Shelby or someone close to or related to her.
At this point no one believes Shelby, not even the media who still coddles her. Her burrito excuse was a total joke.
Ultimately as the AIU pointed out, even if the meat was exactly what she claimed it to be, Shelby would have had to eat the equivalent of 2 1/2 burritos in order to test positive for the amount she had in her system. She only eat 2/3rds of a burrito that night.
Neither nor.
The question here wasn't who believes the pork offal in a burrito scenario, but who made the affirmative case for any alternative scenario, e.g. supplements or oral nandrolone.
Note scientists like Prof. Ayotte have been researching the "total joke" of intact boar consumption for more than 20 years.
And ultimately, one of the things the AIU failed to address is, if the offal that Shelby claimed was exactly what Prof. Ayotte found in her own study which she neglected to tell the CAS about, Shelby would have had to have eaten as little as 1/25th of a burrito. She ate 2/3rds of a burrito that night.
so you're admitting that she's a "doper." nice to see that you two have found some common ground.
"Doping" is a term redefined and broadened by WADA in the Code, to mean the occurence of any anti-doping rule violation. Everyone who eats a USDA approved dish with intact boar offal can become a doper, regardless of knowledge, intent, fault, or negligence, even when a CAS panel believes the "excuse" and the athlete serves no sanction.
The question all along is whether anyone has done the investigative homework with "specific and concrete elements" to allow us to call Houlihan a "drug cheat".
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Dude, you just admitted yesterday that you knew all along that the only "boar" products used by these "Mexicans" were stomach and butt, but you kept going on and on about boar testicles just to rile people up.
4/10 - only because some OCDs kept correcting you.
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