He's guilty

Come Together Right Now wrote:

Come Together Right Now wrote:

This is a good post worth considering. I couldn't care less about Trump, but just reading up on the Armenian Genocide is enough to see that many educated Armenians in metropolitan areas supported the CUP during the Young Turk Revolution, ultimately securing their own slaughter when the CUP came after the educated and skilled first.

Same thing with Khmer Rouge. It is always the most intelligent that think they're above the fray, only to realize - too late - that they're not.

I am not suggesting there is a scary deep state led by the Biden Administration that is after us all in the USA, but it has happened so many times in history that it would be silly to think that we are immune. Keep your head up and eyes open. If we willingly give up our freedoms, someone with bad intentions could come in and take advantage of it. That is why I hated the reactionary response following 9/11. What's the quote about a fool and his parting of freedom for temporary security? Anyway, we're all Americans and we should support each other.

I know I should not care about this, but all the downvotes are confusing me. I want to clarify. My post has nothing to do with Biden or Trump, specifically. It is merely a reminder that all citizens should be wary of voting away their own rights because it "owns" the other side. This has, indeed, happened so many times in history, particularly in the most egregious and violent times.

Consider the holocaust, when German citizens of southern or eastern European descent went along with the resettlements and restrictions against Jewish citizens because it made their lives easier (business, property, politics, culture, etc.), only to find themselves as a target once the Nazi Party was in full power. Just a reminder to think about the consequences of rights and liberties you willingly give away, because the absence of those liberties and rights could come back to impact your own life, sometimes gravely.

Not too bright are ya wrote:

Monkey Boy wrote:

Welcome to a Banana Republic.

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It's been bananas all along because of corrupt Republicans

Maybe you liked it better when Mitch McConnell held up a Supreme Court seat for 8 months, and then rushed one thru in 30 days.

Maybe you liked it better when Mitch McConnell voted No for insurrection impeachment, but then gave an announcement that the Courts court take care of Trump.

Maybe you liked it better when the Trump appointed judge held up Trump's stolen documents trial such that it would never be heard.

Maybe you liked it better when the Supreme Court held up the DC Insurrection trial.

Maybe you liked it better when the Supreme Court stepped in on Al Gore and announced a ceasing of the Florida recount, handing the Presidency to Bush Jr by 500 votes.

Maybe you liked it better when Katherine Karris was used as Jeb Bush's stooge to make sure brother won the election, or when racist Florida cleared thousands of predictably black voters were illegally wiped from the poles before the election.

Maybe you liked it better when Trump was President and he said there were "fine people" in Charlottesville VA with tiki torches.

Maybe you liked it better when Trump held up foreign aide for Ukraine in a attempted bribery to get dirt on his probably future opponent?

Maybe you liked it better when Trump said "Putin can do whatever the hell he wants" with NATO nations.

Maybe you liked it better when Trump's border policy was to try and convince the American public that building a Great Big Wall would stop the people from crossing over, and then when he separated up families, making orphans out of little children.

Maybe you liked it better when he was cheating on his wives, every single time that he porked a big breasted woman half his age.

Come Together Right Now wrote:

fitz wrote:

The point of all this is to show us Americans that if you go against the 1 party system in DC, they will destroy you. You either comply or be jailed, there is no in-between. The Democrat Party and the complicit Republicans (of which there are many) only support the system, they don't give a damn about any of us, no matter how you vote.

There have been so many instances in world history where the general populace supported their way into subjugation by the ruling class, Dem voters and the swamp are doing that as we speak in America. Any of you overly-educated know-it-alls who think this ruling is a good thing will be awful shocked in 10-20 years when you finally wake up and wonder, "where did my personal freedoms go?". You're voting them away from yourself as you speak, a one-party system isn't accountable to its citizens and you cheer for that right now because the Orange Man is paying the price for fighting back.

This is a good post worth considering. I couldn't care less about Trump, but just reading up on the Armenian Genocide is enough to see that many educated Armenians in metropolitan areas supported the CUP during the Young Turk Revolution, ultimately securing their own slaughter when the CUP came after the educated and skilled first.

Same thing with Khmer Rouge. It is always the most intelligent that think they're above the fray, only to realize - too late - that they're not.

I am not suggesting there is a scary deep state led by the Biden Administration that is after us all in the USA, but it has happened so many times in history that it would be silly to think that we are immune. Keep your head up and eyes open. If we willingly give up our freedoms, someone with bad intentions could come in and take advantage of it. That is why I hated the reactionary response following 9/11. What's the quote about a fool and his parting of freedom for temporary security? Anyway, we're all Americans and we should support each other.

dmob8848 wrote:

Come Together Right Now wrote:

This is a good post worth considering. I couldn't care less about Trump, but just reading up on the Armenian Genocide is enough to see that many educated Armenians in metropolitan areas supported the CUP during the Young Turk Revolution, ultimately securing their own slaughter when the CUP came after the educated and skilled first.

Same thing with Khmer Rouge. It is always the most intelligent that think they're above the fray, only to realize - too late - that they're not.

I am not suggesting there is a scary deep state led by the Biden Administration that is after us all in the USA, but it has happened so many times in history that it would be silly to think that we are immune. Keep your head up and eyes open. If we willingly give up our freedoms, someone with bad intentions could come in and take advantage of it. That is why I hated the reactionary response following 9/11. What's the quote about a fool and his parting of freedom for temporary security? Anyway, we're all Americans and we should support each other.

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

dmob8848 wrote:

Come Together Right Now wrote:

This is a good post worth considering. I couldn't care less about Trump, but just reading up on the Armenian Genocide is enough to see that many educated Armenians in metropolitan areas supported the CUP during the Young Turk Revolution, ultimately securing their own slaughter when the CUP came after the educated and skilled first.

Same thing with Khmer Rouge. It is always the most intelligent that think they're above the fray, only to realize - too late - that they're not.

I am not suggesting there is a scary deep state led by the Biden Administration that is after us all in the USA, but it has happened so many times in history that it would be silly to think that we are immune. Keep your head up and eyes open. If we willingly give up our freedoms, someone with bad intentions could come in and take advantage of it. That is why I hated the reactionary response following 9/11. What's the quote about a fool and his parting of freedom for temporary security? Anyway, we're all Americans and we should support each other.

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

fitz wrote:

dmob8848 wrote:

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

All though your ramblings are of someone who supports everything that America was NOT founded upon, we are in 100% agreement that it is time to split the country up. Your people on the West Coast and Northeast can live your Leftist dreams out their fullest, gay everything, no family structure, racial grievance culture as far as the eye can see. The rest of us in REAL America can try and save what's still left of the once great nation. We'll let human nature play out and see who's country is better off generations from now.

And don't act like you care about children, you want them murdered before they are born or transitioned into something they were never intended to be. You didn't need to put that nonsense into your response. In your new country though, your people can continue your child sacrifice to your heart's content.

dmob8848 wrote:

Come Together Right Now wrote:

This is a good post worth considering. I couldn't care less about Trump, but just reading up on the Armenian Genocide is enough to see that many educated Armenians in metropolitan areas supported the CUP during the Young Turk Revolution, ultimately securing their own slaughter when the CUP came after the educated and skilled first.

Same thing with Khmer Rouge. It is always the most intelligent that think they're above the fray, only to realize - too late - that they're not.

I am not suggesting there is a scary deep state led by the Biden Administration that is after us all in the USA, but it has happened so many times in history that it would be silly to think that we are immune. Keep your head up and eyes open. If we willingly give up our freedoms, someone with bad intentions could come in and take advantage of it. That is why I hated the reactionary response following 9/11. What's the quote about a fool and his parting of freedom for temporary security? Anyway, we're all Americans and we should support each other.

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

fitz wrote:

dmob8848 wrote:

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

All though your ramblings are of someone who supports everything that America was NOT founded upon, we are in 100% agreement that it is time to split the country up. Your people on the West Coast and Northeast can live your Leftist dreams out their fullest, gay everything, no family structure, racial grievance culture as far as the eye can see. The rest of us in REAL America can try and save what's still left of the once great nation. We'll let human nature play out and see who's country is better off generations from now.

And don't act like you care about children, you want them murdered before they are born or transitioned into something they were never intended to be. You didn't need to put that nonsense into your response. In your new country though, your people can continue your child sacrifice to your heart's content.

Glitter Bomb Turbo wrote:

dmob8848 wrote:

We are VASTLY more likely to lose our 'freedoms' to an unhinged Mussolini-wannabe who is basically TELLING us he intends to govern as an authoritarian, backed by insanely hypocritical evangelical religious nut-jobs who don't give a flying f*ck who they support as long as they think they can ride that support to a theocracy. Not to mention the fact that outside of the US military and police (and even the latter might be doubtful) the most heavily armed people in this country are millions of angry white guys who lap up Faux news BS and worse every day. All these fools who think their 'freedumb' is being threatened because they had to wear a piece of cloth over their faces during the pandemic, or because they can no longer use their religious superstitions to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, or use their religion to control women's bodies, and on and on, would be just plain silly if they weren't so effing dangerous.

It would be nice to think that "We are all Americans and we should support each other" but the fact is, "We the People" have extraordinarily profound differences in the vision of what this country should be, and in what would constitute a place we would like to live. While I certainly view with alarm some of the very ill-thought out collectivist utopianism of many on the left, there is NO trump equivalent on the left, and only one party which actually still seems at least reasonably committed to the democratic process, and it most certainly is not the M*GA GOP.

Honestly, I get it's a complete fantasy and not at all practical in the short term but if somehow we could split this country in two tomorrow I'd vote for that in an instant. Of course while I would feel horribly sorry for all the innocent children condemned to live in the militarized christofascist authoritarian nightmare M*GA-land would soon become, the rest of us IMHO would be vastly better off.

I agree with you that the country should be split in half. Your side will be filled with Starbucks and Target stores and my side won't be filled with girly men.

dmob8848 wrote:

fitz wrote:

All though your ramblings are of someone who supports everything that America was NOT founded upon, we are in 100% agreement that it is time to split the country up. Your people on the West Coast and Northeast can live your Leftist dreams out their fullest, gay everything, no family structure, racial grievance culture as far as the eye can see. The rest of us in REAL America can try and save what's still left of the once great nation. We'll let human nature play out and see who's country is better off generations from now.

And don't act like you care about children, you want them murdered before they are born or transitioned into something they were never intended to be. You didn't need to put that nonsense into your response. In your new country though, your people can continue your child sacrifice to your heart's content.

My 'Leftist dreams', lol. I have no such thing, and frankly find American left-wing politics just silly much of the time. As far as 'murdered children' are concerned, I would prefer there be exactly ZERO abortions. Free birth control pills for any who want them, on demand, but no, we can't have that, because 'religion'. 'Child sacrifice', hyperbole much? You sound like someone living in the perfect right-wing religious fever dream. All I want is for people to be able to be their fullest selves, without fear of discrimination, and that includes religious people who want to practice their faith without also abusing that faith for the purposes of telling others what they can and cannot do. Your post is just silly.