17yo Brit Phoebe Gill runs European U18 800m record 1:57.86

SnowLover · 2024-05-11T12:06:52-04:00

Commonwealth Youth Games Champion Phoebe Gill obliterates the European U18 800m record as she clocks 1:57.86 to win the Belfast Irish Milers Meet. Unreal time, she could get that 3rd spot behind Keely and Jemma in Paris if she can hold this kind of form.

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2 years ago 05/28/2024 10:38am EDT

re: cooldogdonnie

cooldogdonnie wrote:
Link:www.britishathletics.org.uk/news-and-f...
"UKA’s objective for the European Athletics Championships is to maximise medal success at the European Athletics Championships and support athlete plans towards success at the Olympic Games in Paris this summer. With no official selection event, athletes were required to submit expressions of interest, or confirm with their event point of contact for consideration."
Probably just didn't submit expression of interest.

Yes. Quite a few big names missing so I guess lots have chosen to swerve this.

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2 years ago 05/28/2024 11:05am EDT

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
steak and cheese wrote:
Your expectations aren't aligned with reality. Plenty of high school girls aged 17 (and 16) run or have run 55 or faster in the 400m.
It's still a very good time for a 16-17 year old girl - and especially for a 2-lap runner. Mary Decker's best was just under 54. But for a 17 year old girl to run 55 in an 800 (who was nowhere near 2min for the 800 a year ago), yeah - nah. As I said, she would have been several metres ahead of the field of international runners at Eugene.

Moraa led the pack at Pre in 56-low. Gill was 56.6.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 11:53am EDT

re: xy.

xy. wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's still a very good time for a 16-17 year old girl - and especially for a 2-lap runner. Mary Decker's best was just under 54. But for a 17 year old girl to run 55 in an 800 (who was nowhere near 2min for the 800 a year ago), yeah - nah. As I said, she would have been several metres ahead of the field of international runners at Eugene.
Moraa led the pack at Pre in 56-low. Gill was 56.6.

And? When all your predictions/estimates are driven by pure hate this easily puts Gill a few metres ahead.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 12:29pm EDT

re: xy.

xy. wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's still a very good time for a 16-17 year old girl - and especially for a 2-lap runner. Mary Decker's best was just under 54. But for a 17 year old girl to run 55 in an 800 (who was nowhere near 2min for the 800 a year ago), yeah - nah. As I said, she would have been several metres ahead of the field of international runners at Eugene.
Moraa led the pack at Pre in 56-low. Gill was 56.6.

In the same race?

2 years ago 05/28/2024 12:37pm EDT

re: steak and cheese

52.76 is fifth for girls in the state of Florida this year.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 12:40pm EDT

re: zxcvzcvx

53.6/53.7 are fifth girls in Texas and California this year. So, 54 or 55 for high school girls is not even going to get you into a national hs final, not even close.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 12:51pm EDT

re: Yorkshire Fell

Yorkshire Fell wrote:
So selection for the European championships in Rome is out.
800m - Keely, Alex Bell and Wallace.
Not sure of the selection criteria? Why no Phoebe Gill?

She was offered a place, but turned it down to concentrate on her exams:

Daily Mail wrote:
Phoebe Gill, the 17-year-old 800m sensation who has broken through this summer, also turned down the chance to go to Rome to focus on her school exams. She could, though, still make the squad for the Olympics if she performs at trials.

dailymail.co.uk

Katarina Johnson-Thompson named in GB squad for European Championships

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=David+Coverdale

DAVID COVERDALE: Katarina Johnson-Thompson will step up her preparations for the Paris Olympics by going for European glory in Rome next week.

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2 years ago 05/28/2024 12:53pm EDT

re: ibarnett01

ibarnett01 wrote:
Another extraordinary 800m race by Pheobe Gill this evening at the Manchester BMC, 55 flat at the bell and held on to win in 1:58.08 as Ciara Mageean broke the Irish record in 2nd. Ms.Gill's time broke Keely Hodgkinson's track record.

That is super impressive. I've run a bit faster (40 years ago), but if I've had gone through in 55:00 flat they'd have had to get me off the track with a dustpan and broom at the 600m mark.

I'd say right now she could go 56 high, and 59, and run 1:55.xx

2 years ago 05/28/2024 3:15pm EDT

re: the armsearcher

the armsearcher wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Thank you. My mistake.
You have mentioned her wikipedia. Your main athletics source? It would explain little bit.

No, my main source is memory, since I saw many of these athletes compete. You didn't.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 3:23pm EDT

re: xy.

xy. wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's still a very good time for a 16-17 year old girl - and especially for a 2-lap runner. Mary Decker's best was just under 54. But for a 17 year old girl to run 55 in an 800 (who was nowhere near 2min for the 800 a year ago), yeah - nah. As I said, she would have been several metres ahead of the field of international runners at Eugene.
Moraa led the pack at Pre in 56-low. Gill was 56.6.

The pacemaker went through in just over 55. As a poster said earlier Gill went through in 55 that suggests she would have been up with the pacemaker and well ahead of the field at Eugene. But regardless, her recent times of 1:57/58 are now at a top international level, and this as a 17 year old school athlete, while being 4 seconds faster than a year ago. There are some Russian athletes who would be envious.

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2 years ago 05/28/2024 3:27pm EDT

re: zxcvzcvx

zxcvzcvx wrote:
53.6/53.7 are fifth girls in Texas and California this year. So, 54 or 55 for high school girls is not even going to get you into a national hs final, not even close.

I didn't suggest 54-55 is what the very best high school girls will run - but it is a respectable time for a 17 year old. It is even more respectable coming from an athlete who isn't a 400m specialist and runs it as the first lap for 800. That's what a pacer in a DL race runs.

2 years ago 05/28/2024 3:29pm EDT

re: Cavorty

Cavorty wrote:
ibarnett01 wrote:
Another extraordinary 800m race by Pheobe Gill this evening at the Manchester BMC, 55 flat at the bell and held on to win in 1:58.08 as Ciara Mageean broke the Irish record in 2nd. Ms.Gill's time broke Keely Hodgkinson's track record.
That is super impressive. I've run a bit faster (40 years ago), but if I've had gone through in 55:00 flat they'd have had to get me off the track with a dustpan and broom at the 600m mark.
I'd say right now she could go 56 high, and 59, and run 1:55.xx

So as fast as Hodgkinson at Eugene.

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1 year ago 06/06/2024 4:12pm EDT

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
Cavorty wrote:
That is super impressive. I've run a bit faster (40 years ago), but if I've had gone through in 55:00 flat they'd have had to get me off the track with a dustpan and broom at the 600m mark.
I'd say right now she could go 56 high, and 59, and run 1:55.xx
So as fast as Hodgkinson at Eugene.

Get ready Armslinglips, Phoebs is down for the 1500m at the Watford BMC Grand Prix this Saturday. Race starts at 20:04hrs UK time. Be ready to have a pop at U17 Lyla Belshaw as well.

1 year ago 06/07/2024 9:32pm EDT

re: ibarnett01

ibarnett01 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
So as fast as Hodgkinson at Eugene.
Get ready Armslinglips, Phoebs is down for the 1500m at the Watford BMC Grand Prix this Saturday. Race starts at 20:04hrs UK time. Be ready to have a pop at U17 Lyla Belshaw as well.

As orientation for the race - this are the actual european top times für U18 and U20 this year:

U18: Wilma Anna Bekkemoen Torbiörnss ( Norway ) 4:11,43

U20: Jolanda Kallabis ( Germany ) 4:07,44

1 year ago 06/09/2024 3:07am EDT

re: KingGizzard

She ran 4:05.87. That's a 6 second improvement on her pb from last year.

https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=953968

1 year ago 06/09/2024 3:23am EDT

re: Coevett

Coevett wrote:
She ran 4:05.87. That's a 6 second improvement on her pb from last year.
Link:www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile...

It says that race was on May 1st. She is that doped that she can time travel

1 year ago 06/09/2024 3:28am EDT

re: Confunctious

Yes, my mistake. Appears she pulled out as she is not in the results.

britishmilersclub.com

Watford Grand Prix - 08 June 2024 - Results - British Milers Club

Races: 28 Finishers: 307 PBs: 116 (38%) Power of Ten results: Here Race : 18 Mens 800m Meters A Posn Vest No. Leg No. Time Name Club 1 6 6 01:46.53 Reece Sharman-newell Basingstoke & Mid Hants / Csp University 2 3 3 01:47.16...

Open link

1 year ago 06/30/2024 3:48pm EDT

re: Coevett

Another absolutely brilliant run today, with slightly different tactics this time. A negative split 1.58 is good by anyone's standards, let alone a 17yo.

Reekie is a proven and consistent world class performer and to deal with her so easily at this age is incredible. Every chance she makes the final in Paris, in my opinion.

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