Great Oak has the best returning group based on the XC season (if you include Westin Brown), but Jesuit and ML King has better returning track times
Waiting for confirmation but JSerra is said to have 4:20 1600 transfer enrolled to add to their bag. Would make 4 runners under 4:20.
Looks like it's Taye Newman that has transferred to JSerra and he has 14:44 credentials along with 1:55-4:13 relay and 9:25 times according to PrepCal twit/X.
It's just easier for me to sort in excel using decimals. I'm a big fan of the metric system, so why hasn't anyone proposed a unit of time where 100 of them equals one "minute" (or a new name for it). One hundred of those "minutes" = 1 hour?
Speaking of weights and measures...If you haven't seen this Nate Bargatze skit on SNL, it's an all-time great:
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I posted this in the other thread... but it's probably more appropriate here.
CA Girls, updated with a couple important transfers to Ventura and Trabuco. Buchanan clearly has the best top 5 runners, with the other 4 schools ridiculously close to one another, with Ventura now favored as the 2nd ranked team in the State, thanks to a transfer, and Trabuco, Santiago and J Serra are all neck and neck.
Based on top 5 scorers: #1 Buchanan 13Lomelli 16Torosian 26Sundgren 37Hutchison 40Buckley Total: 132
What Buchanan and JSerra have but Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona don’t have is depth behind the top 5. A Buchanan and JSerra runner can have an off day and it won’t hurt them much.
But Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona are 5-deep at the most, so for these teams, if one of their scorers has an off race, that will hurt that team a lot
Since the California Girls top 5 is so intriguing and a very close battle, I crunched some numbers and ranked each team based on just their top 4, then by their top 3 and each team's top 2 runners.
The boys teams are going to have a close battle too. With Great Oak not as deep as they used to be, and all of the top boys teams last year being senior heavy, it’s a lot harder to determine which teams will the best. Woodbridge will start showing a lot
I posted this in the other thread... but it's probably more appropriate here.
CA Girls, updated with a couple important transfers to Ventura and Trabuco. Buchanan clearly has the best top 5 runners, with the other 4 schools ridiculously close to one another, with Ventura now favored as the 2nd ranked team in the State, thanks to a transfer, and Trabuco, Santiago and J Serra are all neck and neck.
Based on top 5 scorers: #1 Buchanan 13Lomelli 16Torosian 26Sundgren 37Hutchison 40Buckley Total: 132
What Buchanan and JSerra have but Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona don’t have is depth behind the top 5. A Buchanan and JSerra runner can have an off day and it won’t hurt them much.
But Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona are 5-deep at the most, so for these teams, if one of their scorers has an off race, that will hurt that team a lot
A big challenge with trying to rank girls teams before the season is that they are affected much more by incoming freshmen than boys teams are. In CA it’s very tough to identify who the good 8th graders are too.
What Buchanan and JSerra have but Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona don’t have is depth behind the top 5. A Buchanan and JSerra runner can have an off day and it won’t hurt them much.
But Trabuco, Ventura, and Santiago Corona are 5-deep at the most, so for these teams, if one of their scorers has an off race, that will hurt that team a lot
It's going to be the year of the #5 runner for everyone. Some got transfers, others have incoming Freshmen, and some have runners returning from injury last year. From what I'm seeing on the surface based on XC and Track PR's, Santiago may actually have a faster #6 through 10 than Buchanan and J Serra, but those 2 schools look like they have faster #5's than Santiago, as does Ventura.
I'll have to crunch some numbers to see if I'm right about team depth, but it's all going to depend on how all these teams' subs are training this Summer. We'll see it unfold early on at Woodbridge, then even more at Clovis after Sit Out Periods end.
My ranking of the top 10 California individuals for XC based on my expertise.
1. Evan Noonan
2. Broen Holman
3. Landon Pretre
4. Eli-Fitchen Young
5. Eyan Turk/Trey Caldwell
6. Maximo Zavaleta
7. Aydon Stefanopoulos?
8. Ben Bouie
9. Miles Cook
10. Justin Fann
Pretty good list. Good to see you didn't just follow 5k PR's, or Caldwell wouldn't have made that list, and he will be in the top 10 also... same as Turk. Westin Brown will be in the top 10.
I think lots of these names are fair but this list is very heavily skewed towards Bay Area and CCS. Is someone going to do boy rankings top 25 similar to the girls above?