We have merged two threads on this topic into 1 and kept the title of the longer thread. The other thread was called, "Adeline Johnson, high school senior, misses state due to biological male taking the last spot in California."
The thing I find strange about it all is that it's just so obvious, but we're all supposed to pretend we don't notice the donkey running with the thoroughbreds?
In some countries, it's illegal to film and distribute videos of school sports. Such videos are usually only available to team scouts.
In America, you can not only share these videos but you can have 13 pages of adults on a forum naming and shaming of children in the race.
I’m not a registered Democrat, but I support athletes competing in their identified gender. I don’t see this as a fairness issue. It’s a participation issue. It’s an acceptance issue. It’s a validation of humanity issue.
So if me a 4:13 miler decides I want to identify as a girl and break every record in women's history then it's okay just because everyone is forced to accept me or be called transphobic?
Well, because they’re not girls. In what world does the feelings of one person trump the feelings of all other competitors and the fairness of the competition itself?
It’s bizarre that I, like many people, read this as unabashed transphobia, but others will nod in agreement, strokes their chins, and say, “ah, yes. Science and what what.”
If one person’s feelings can be summed up as: “I want to run a race.” And the other person’s are, “your gender identity is false.” I’m sorry, the person’s feelings who just wants to run a race trumps the hateful person.
As an analogy of this concept, Jesse Owens’s feelings trumped Hitler’s feelings in 1936.
No one is wanting to prevent them from racing. They should just be racing in the boys race since they are boys.
If one person’s feelings can be summed up as: “I want to run a race.” And the other person’s are, “your gender identity is false.” I’m sorry, the person’s feelings who just wants to run a race trumps the hateful person.
What if I identify as being 15 and just want to race against high schoolers? My feelings are more important than any hateful people that want to stop me right? Identifying as a different age or a different gender are both completely subjective phenomena with no grounding in biological reality. In fact, I've been 15 once so I objectively have more of an insight into what identifying into that category actually means.
Most adults of average intelligence have the capacity to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Pornhub is fantasy. Hollywood movies are fantasies. Porn magazines and novels are fantasies.
Your concoction of a phantasmagorically perverted male species is your fantasy.
If one person’s feelings can be summed up as: “I want to run a race.” And the other person’s are, “your gender identity is false.” I’m sorry, the person’s feelings who just wants to run a race trumps the hateful person.
What if I identify as being 15 and just want to race against high schoolers? My feelings are more important than any hateful people that want to stop me right? Identifying as a different age or a different gender are both completely subjective phenomena with no grounding in biological reality. In fact, I've been 15 once so I objectively have more of an insight into what identifying into that category actually means.
We’ve been through this on other threads. You can change your gender. Your can’t change your age. See birth certificates, drivers licenses, etc. your argument makes zero sense.
You can change your gender. Your can’t change your age.
Athletes compete by sex. You can't change your sex, even if you get a pretendy little certificate that pretends that you have. Humans can't change sex, humans can't change age. Therefore competing out of your sex category or age category are equally ridiculous.
If one person’s feelings can be summed up as: “I want to run a race.” And the other person’s are, “your gender identity is false.” I’m sorry, the person’s feelings who just wants to run a race trumps the hateful person.
What if I identify as being 15 and just want to race against high schoolers? My feelings are more important than any hateful people that want to stop me right? Identifying as a different age or a different gender are both completely subjective phenomena with no grounding in biological reality. In fact, I've been 15 once so I objectively have more of an insight into what identifying into that category actually means.
Oh my, just because I identify as a chair doesn’t make me a chair.
You can change your gender. Your can’t change your age.
Athletes compete by sex. You can't change your sex, even if you get a pretendy little certificate that pretends that you have. Humans can't change sex, humans can't change age. Therefore competing out of your sex category or age category are equally ridiculous.
You don't think it's weird the most talked about race on this forum is a children's event?
You don't think it's strange the Daily Mail (a British newspaper) is reporting on a minor school competition in California?
How do you think this child is feeling right now? Or how spooked the participants in the race must be (including the other girls) by international media getting hold of this story and researching their high school careers?
Athletes compete by sex. You can't change your sex, even if you get a pretendy little certificate that pretends that you have. Humans can't change sex, humans can't change age. Therefore competing out of your sex category or age category are equally ridiculous.
Uh, no. That’s a staggeringly false premise. It is not transphobic to say that when it comes to sports competitions fairness comes first. That is pretty much the only rule of sports: a level playing field. We probably won’t see eye to eye on this if you think feelings are a cause of undoing the basic foundation upon which athletics exist. What’s the point in even having two different categories based on sex at this point? On a side note: the Hitler- Jesse Owens bit doesn’t make a lick of sense.
You don't think it's weird the most talked about race on this forum is a children's event?
You don't think it's strange the Daily Mail (a British newspaper) is reporting on a minor school competition in California?
How do you think this child is feeling right now? Or how spooked the participants in the race must be (including the other girls) by international media getting hold of this story and researching their high school careers?
It’s really on the jojos, making moolah getting us wound up.
Uh, no. That’s a staggeringly false premise. It is not transphobic to say that when it comes to sports competitions fairness comes first. That is pretty much the only rule of sports: a level playing field. We probably won’t see eye to eye on this if you think feelings are a cause of undoing the basic foundation upon which athletics exist. What’s the point in even having two different categories based on sex at this point? On a side note: the Hitler- Jesse Owens bit doesn’t make a lick of sense.
Sport is just a small part of society. Sport is whatever society wants it to be.