why aren't you personally vaccinated?

NYC data.

Hospitalization rates for non-vaccinated people literally off the chart.

Hospitalization rate for vaccinated people rising very slowly.

Off. the. chart.

VaCcInEs DoN't WeRk

https://twitter.com/cooperlund/status/1476612381153411077?s=20

Caleb's Hat wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I already told you what a REAL vaccine passport system looks like. Look at how China did it at the beginning of the pandemic. They brought their cases down to nearly zero and they have kept it there.

China was strict, sometimes brutally so. But it worked.

How did China implement a real vaccine passport at the beginning of the pandemic with no vaccine?

Do you even read what you write?

Obviously, the app didn't include vaccine status in the early days.

yes yes yes yes wrote:

lol lol lol lol wrote:

As far back as the Pfizer trials we knew that the "vaccinated" were dying at a significantly higher rate than the "unvaccinated".

Additionally, nobody in either group received early treatment in the unlikely event that they became ill due to "teh virus"

You might wish to refine your analogy.

It is pure BS like this that goes on without any challenge that shows just how low this site has sunk into lies and misinformation.

Just do us all a favor and shut it down. I mean the site.

Can you say "CESSPOOL?"

Or it was not responded to because it was so clearly a troll attempt. and maybe you also are a troll attempt and I am biting?

You got to admit, CDC and Fauci et al have, at best, ignored early treatment options.

Two years into this thing, and they still tell you to go home and isolate after a positive test and do nothing until you are so sick you have to go to the hospital.

The vaxx uber alles and Fauci is a saint crowd cannot admit this to themselves.

Science and data is only a sales slogan to them

carmine9 wrote:

You got to admit, CDC and Fauci et al have, at best, ignored early treatment options.

Two years into this thing, and they still tell you to go home and isolate after a positive test and do nothing until you are so sick you have to go to the hospital.

The vaxx uber alles and Fauci is a saint crowd cannot admit this to themselves.

Science and data is only a sales slogan to them

honestly I don't really know what you mean.

we all know that med professionals have developed ways to treat early covid from those March 2020 days when no one got off a ventilator alive.

but I'm just not sure what you are talking about and whether that is the job of CDC and Fauci to work on early treatment options. Sounds like something some other group should be working on.

I know big pharma has some good stuff coming out now.

agip wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

You got to admit, CDC and Fauci et al have, at best, ignored early treatment options.

Two years into this thing, and they still tell you to go home and isolate after a positive test and do nothing until you are so sick you have to go to the hospital.

The vaxx uber alles and Fauci is a saint crowd cannot admit this to themselves.

Science and data is only a sales slogan to them

honestly I don't really know what you mean.

You don't? How is that possible?

Here are the CDC guidelines to this day:

If you are sick with COVID-19 or think you might have COVID-19, follow the steps below to care for yourself and to help protect other people in your home and community.

Stay home. Most people with COVID-19 have mild illness and can recover at home without medical care. Do not leave your home, except to get medical care. Do not visit public areas.

Take care of yourself. Get rest and stay hydrated. Take over-the-counter medicines, such as acetaminophen, to help you feel better.

Stay in touch with your doctor. Call before you get medical care. Be sure to get care if you have trouble breathing, or have any other emergency warning signs, or if you think it is an emergency.

Avoid public transportation, ride-sharing, or taxis.

Separate yourself from other people

As much as possible, stay in a specific room and away from other people and pets in your home. If possible, you should use a separate bathroom. If you need to be around other people or animals in or outside of the home, wear a mask.

Tell your close contacts that they may have been exposed to COVID-19. An infected person can spread COVID-19 starting 48 hours (or 2 days) before the person has any symptoms or tests positive. By letting your close contacts know they may have been exposed to COVID-19, you are helping to protect everyone.

If you are diagnosed with COVID-19, someone from the health department may call you. Answer the call to slow the spread.

Monitor your symptoms

Symptoms of COVID-19 include fever, cough, or other symptoms.

When to seek emergency medical attention

Look for emergency warning signs* for COVID-19. If someone is showing any of these signs, seek emergency medical care immediately:

Trouble breathing

Persistent pain or pressure in the chest

New confusion

Inability to wake or stay awake

Pale, gray, or blue-colored skin, lips, or nail beds, depending on skin tone

*This list is not all possible symptoms. Please call your medical provider for any other symptoms that are severe or concerning to you.

To summarize

Stay home.

Treat yourself with over the counter meds.

Seek emergency help only when you are extremely sick.

No early treatment with prescriptions from doctors.

Anyone who has been sick with Covid knows you don't get treated.

This is criminal

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

carmine9 wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

ah it's ivermectin that you are getting at.

I should have known.

Well man none of us is qualified to judge ol'ivermectin. Could work. Might not work. I certainly don' t know and neither do you.

here's a fact check of that study you linked to. Sounds like docs just don't know yet. But that study had flaws and a major undisclosed conflict of interest.

But at least I know what you are talking about now.

agip wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

ah it's ivermectin that you are getting at.

I should have known.

Maybe the fact I referenced it and posted several studies on it should have been a clue?

Here are your Big Pharma heroes.

carmine9 wrote:

agip wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

ah it's ivermectin that you are getting at.

I should have known.

Maybe the fact I referenced it and posted several studies on it should have been a clue?

Here are your Big Pharma heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1UwPSzTV4

do you ever wonder if your conspiratorial view of the world is just stupid?

agip wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

ah it's ivermectin that you are getting at.

I should have known.

Maybe the fact I referenced it and posted several studies on it should have been a clue?

Here are your Big Pharma heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1UwPSzTV4

do you ever wonder if your conspiratorial view of the world is just stupid?

Or is there ulterior motive?

yes yes yes yes wrote:

agip wrote:

do you ever wonder if your conspiratorial view of the world is just stupid?

Or is there ulterior motive?

Of course Big Pharma and the Oligarchs have an ulterior motive, do not care about our health, and conspire against us. There are still people who don't know this?

Omicron ends the pandemic yet they still fear monger to push their controls onto us and their jabs into us

The vaccine was released for my age group a month before I was running my first marathon. Thought it wasn't worth getting ill right before. Then I started hearing more and more about side effects, didn't know what to believe, but recognised the fact I haven't been ill (or seen a GP) in many years, so I just sat on the fence. Now we are 2 years down the line and I still haven't been seriously ill from covid, so now I think... what's the point.