high school xc coach wrote:
A pedestrian pace again, when so many expected mid 26 minutes!
NOBODY WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN WAS EXPECTING MID-26 MINUTES IN THAT HEAT AND HUMIDITY!!! I sure hope you weren't one of those dodos.
high school xc coach wrote:
A pedestrian pace again, when so many expected mid 26 minutes!
NOBODY WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN WAS EXPECTING MID-26 MINUTES IN THAT HEAT AND HUMIDITY!!! I sure hope you weren't one of those dodos.
And all the American Top 10 finishes at the World Championships by American men
Lomong 7th 2019
Kipchirchir 9th 2017
Rupp 5th 2015
Rupp 4th 2013
Ritz 10th 2013
Rupp 7th 2011
Teg 10th 2011
Ritz 6th 2009
Rupp 8th 2009
Abdi 7th 2007
T. Williams 8th 1995
T. Williams 7th 1993
Plasencia 8th 1987
Rainy Day wrote:
I’ve been running in similar condition for the past month in FL. It’s an easy 25 seconds per mile compared to the ideal conditions I had while on vacation up North. I have to think it’s 7-8 seconds per mile for these guys.
That was a great race. Fisher looked good the whole way. Nobody was going to close on Barega the final 200, but Cheptegei looked like he surged 10M too late.
I think you are right. I believe these guys could have run something like 26:35-26:45--but you can't risk it in these conditions. Cheptegei set the 5k record in 79 degrees with 69 dew point!
I believe the race today was at something like 80 with 76 dewpoint, so definitely worse, but something that can be managed by these freaks.
LappedMiler wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
A pedestrian pace again, when so many expected mid 26 minutes!
NOBODY WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN WAS EXPECTING MID-26 MINUTES IN THAT HEAT AND HUMIDITY!!! I sure hope you weren't one of those dodos.
There was a long thread a couple of months ago on LRC in which almost everyone was arguing this would be a 26:30 race in which someone like Farah would have no chance (this was before Farah failed to qualify).
Anyway, good race for Fisher, opportunity lost for the slow guys. Cheptegei was beatable today.
jmk23 wrote:
And all the American Top 10 finishes at the World Championships by American men
Lomong 7th 2019
Kipchirchir 9th 2017
Rupp 5th 2015
Rupp 4th 2013
Ritz 10th 2013
Rupp 7th 2011
Teg 10th 2011
Ritz 6th 2009
Rupp 8th 2009
Abdi 7th 2007
T. Williams 8th 1995
T. Williams 7th 1993
Plasencia 8th 1987
Thanks for posting this and the Olympic version. It really puts in perspective how impressive Fisher's run is for an American the last few decades, taking Rupp out of the equation.
Ritz's 6th at world's in 2009, also in tough conditions was another standout performance.
malmo wrote:
5 27:46.39 FISHER Grant USA
7 27:50.06 KWEMOI Rodgers KEN
9 27:52.78 KIPRUTO Rhonex KEN
15 28:11.01 KINCAID Woody USA
16 28:14.18 KLECKER Joe USA
20 28:41.42 LANGAT Weldon KEN
36 USA
36 KEN
Could not believe how strong Fisher looked all the way through. Right after he was all smiles, barely looked stressed. Towards the front of one of the best fields ever, and he defeated the two Kenyans, wow! He may become America’s best distance runner ever. Lot easier to root for him than Rupp. Always has a smile on his face and kind words about his competitors.
Utterly irrelevant I know but Mo Farah in 2012 to 2017 still wins THAT race
I for one thought it would be faster but also a 76 dewpoint is worse than I thought it would be. If it was more like 70 I do believe it would've been quick, but it was oppressive.
100 percent he put everything on the line and ran a smart race. Nothing he could’ve done to beat the top three, they’re simply better than Fisher at this point in time. But fifth place in that field is nothing to pout over.
Bhudha of Bushy wrote:
Utterly irrelevant I know but Mo Farah in 2012 to 2017 still wins THAT race
Nah...Farah couldn't handle heat.
Wsp wrote:
Bhudha of Bushy wrote:
Utterly irrelevant I know but Mo Farah in 2012 to 2017 still wins THAT race
Nah...Farah couldn't handle heat.
Top 3 all closed better than Farah, and ran that 2:25 last 1K. Farah never did that.
birdbeard wrote:
Wsp wrote:
Nah...Farah couldn't handle heat.
Top 3 all closed better than Farah, and ran that 2:25 last 1K. Farah never did that.
I could be wrong, but didn't Farah once ran the last 800m of a 5k in 1:48?
jmk23 wrote:
And all the American Top 10 finishes at the World Championships by American men
Lomong 7th 2019
Kipchirchir 9th 2017
Rupp 5th 2015
Rupp 4th 2013
Ritz 10th 2013
Rupp 7th 2011
Teg 10th 2011
Ritz 6th 2009
Rupp 8th 2009
Abdi 7th 2007
T. Williams 8th 1995
T. Williams 7th 1993
Plasencia 8th 1987
This goes to show that a path to the medal stand is getting the experience of being in contention consistently for several years like Rupp was. Great run for Grant, hopefully he can continue to improve and contend in world championships and eventually make it on the podium.
53.94 final lap
birdbeard wrote:
cramberrys wrote:
Hope Barega can recover, his surging costs a lot in this heat - can't understand why he just can run tactically sane as he'd be gold favourite.
Yep, that was really stupid. Probably one of the top 3-5 most talented people in history and can't seem to quite figure out tactics or positioning yet.
That post did not age well. :-) I contest that uneven pace can work well for a talented runner in a race like this, leaning more into fast-twitch and then slow-twitch muscle fibers.
Predicting the future is difficult. But he certainly positioned himself well crossing the finish line. :-)
NBC cut the 10K highlights down to 1 minute lol, only the olympics, nothing to see
imagine if they do that for the marathon, hey running for 2+ hours but here's the finish
but people can watch the finish for free if they want
Florida Boy wrote:
Either Cheptegei or Kiplimo
Kiplimo has been disappointing. Cheptegei has left the track and passed the crown to Fisher...
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