Flagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I fear everything we see as clear indicators of how awful Trump is only confirms the bias of his supporters. From the beginning the strategy should have been to just let Trump implode for enough voters to figure it out. But from the beginning there has been finger pointing from the left and the constant hammering in the media. That is of course warranted, but if you are a cynical Trump supporter any criticism is only going to fuel the fire.
There are two distinct personal experiences that make me a skeptic with regards to the chances we will see Trump go. One was my time in the Marines Corps and the other was biking across the country. I came across a lot of different people, many rural folks, nice folks but simple, naive and often uneducated. My impression was that these folks tend to be one or two-issue voters. They don’t trust the government and most think the media (even FOX) is purely agenda driven and so should also not be trusted. Many don’t even trust their local backwater hellhole newspapers. If I could imagine myself in the shoes of every Bob and Mary I met in those experiences I would likely be thinking witch hunt right now, no matter how horrendous Trump is. I have to place the chances of impeachment and even no re-election at the lower end. It could easily be the case that this nasty situation might turn away even more voters instead of firing people up. I simply hope we see justice and whatever evidence is found is as black and white as it could be.
You are definitely describing many of the Trump voters, but they are not ALL like that. Some are educated and connected to the news and how things are turning out, and those people will turn. Trump didn't win by much, and he will need all of the voters he got and then some to win again. Hillary was a flawed candidate and will not be running in 2020 (at least I hope so).
I maintain that Trump will not be able to be elected on election day. He will resign or be impeached and removed before then, because the evidence and the heat will be too much.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
8 year presidencies have beceome the norm. So it’s very possible that if Trump is there he’ll win.
There are very few actual independent voters, most lean one way or the other. I have yet to meet an Obama voter who voted for Trump.
National elections seem to be more an exercise in exciting “your people” and getting “your people” to vote. It’s become an “us” vs “them” exercise.
This is why Trump’s approval rating will never sink much below 40%. Then you have another few % who dissaprove but will still vote for him because he’s a R. True independents might make up 5-10% of the vote. So for candidates is it easier to just get “your people” out in huge numbers or is it easier to change the minds of the wishy washy?
Alan