Globalism is about removing the barriers to the movement of capital, goods, and labor so that supply and demand is the driving force of the global marketplace. Trump’s trade policies are the opposite of that and are much closer to Bernie Sanders than traditional conservative principles.
That's a very simplistic definition.
Globalism is not possible without the US navy.
Some people believe hamstringing the US in favor of leftists in Europe and Asia isn't in America's best interest.
Trump was for fair trade. Not wanting to get fleeced shouldn't be a controversial position.
So what is your definition? The biggest US trading partners are Canada and Mexico so I'm not sure where the US navy comes in. And are you saying the US navy enables trade between the EU and China, or between Japan and Australia, etc.?
Yes, free trade is the goal of traditional conservatives, but enacting tariffs and other penalties just leads to countermeasures and more restrictive trade between all parties involved.
Some people believe hamstringing the US in favor of leftists in Europe and Asia isn't in America's best interest.
Trump was for fair trade. Not wanting to get fleeced shouldn't be a controversial position.
So what is your definition? The biggest US trading partners are Canada and Mexico so I'm not sure where the US navy comes in. And are you saying the US navy enables trade between the EU and China, or between Japan and Australia, etc.?
Yes, free trade is the goal of traditional conservatives, but enacting tariffs and other penalties just leads to countermeasures and more restrictive trade between all parties involved.
Globalism is an entirely new phenomenon.
The first global empire was Britain because it had a deepwater navy that no one could rival. Britain used their navy to enrich Britain and subjugate half the world.
After World War 2 the only economy on the planet that wasn't destroyed was the US economy. The only nation on earth with a Navy to speak of was the US. The US entered into an agreement with the world after WW2 where the US offered to safeguard the oceans of the world. Any nation could trade whatever they wanted with whoever they wanted. All we asked in return was that if the sh*t hit the fan with the Soviets that you took our side.
The US absolutely enables trade between everyone. If the US navy goes away globalism goes away.
It isn't "free trade" or nothing. If the trade isn't fair it isn't worth having. The entire US manufacturing base and middle class were decimated by unfair trade practices. Wanting to correct that isn't anti-conservative.
She likely went to Hastings because they had an affirmative action program that would look past less than stellar grades / LSAT scores (As far as her lineage is concerned, both parents are PhDs. With that type of lineage, one should not require affirmative action. Affirmative action was meant to help those who did not come from advantaged households. She likely took a law school spot from a white guy who didn't have two PhDs for parents). If she could have gotten into a prestigious law school, she would have. She also failed the bar exam. If intelligence is the metric you most value for politics, then you should vote for DeSantis in the next presidential election and stop opposing things like the nomination of ACB to the Supreme Court.
There are highly intelligent people (140+) all across the political spectrum. I don’t think DeSantis is any smarter than Pete or even Bernie and the three men represent very different ideologies. It’s an obvious mistake to think that your political ideas are backed up by intelligence.
Bernie? Middle of his class Political Science Bachelor's Degree from the University of Chicago that couldn't hack it as a carpenter. That is your high stick for intelligence?
Flagpole, why are you keeping this thing going? Sure, he’s a moron but there are millions just like him and they ain’t going anywhere.
Flagpole and you were clearly beat!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂. Flagpole isn’t very smart but he is smart enough to know when to avoid and lie about tough questions that he knows he can’t twist.
******Think about it, in 2016 you both voted for the wife of a President who was impeached for lying under oath to Federal Grand Jury, obstructing justice, witness tampering, abuse of power…etc…
How f-ing stupid is he, and you? The wife, who lied dozens of times as a Senator and you voted for her. Dumb@sses indeed
Thank you mate!!! Flagpole has gone down a dark deep tunnel and has pretty much lost it. You are right, voting for HRC after her husband was impeached speaks volumes about numbnuts Flagpole and SDSU Aztec ain't far behind. Complete morons. Biased I understand, but to be that ignorant should against the law. Flagpole is beyond stupid.
Criticism of global trade. Conservatives usually want free trade and not protectionism. The economy doesn't want "America first". Capitalism doesn't want less globalization. Donald does.
Conservatives are all about respecting institutions, Trump literally wants to tear them down and "drain the swamp". Trump is anti-conservative because he wants to change everything. His support think they are starting a revolution, not conserving anything.
Globalism isn't a conservative principle.
Not wanting to be the world's piggy bank and police force isn't "protectionism" and opposing it isn't anti-conservative it's anti-leftist.
Every American should want to "drain the swamp". Corruption, fraud, waste and abuse are the norm in Washington. We're $30 trillion in debt and we can't sign a clean bill on ANYTHING without special interest pork all over it. It shouldn't just be "Trump supporters" who think this is a problem.
It might not be, but it's a capitalist one. And conservatives ally with business. If you don't like globalism, have a re-think.
Foreign intervention isn't a leftist cause, there was no bigger opponent of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars than the Left. Now the people who would have shouted traitor at any protesters opposing the war on February 15, 2003 are saying they were with them all along.
It isn't just Trump supporters who think what you've described is a problem. Trump supporters have no ideas or long-term strategy. They just want to return to a past their own right-wing ideas destroyed.
Not wanting to be the world's piggy bank and police force isn't "protectionism" and opposing it isn't anti-conservative it's anti-leftist.
Every American should want to "drain the swamp". Corruption, fraud, waste and abuse are the norm in Washington. We're $30 trillion in debt and we can't sign a clean bill on ANYTHING without special interest pork all over it. It shouldn't just be "Trump supporters" who think this is a problem.
It might not be, but it's a capitalist one. And conservatives ally with business. If you don't like globalism, have a re-think.
Foreign intervention isn't a leftist cause, there was no bigger opponent of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars than the Left. Now the people who would have shouted traitor at any protesters opposing the war on February 15, 2003 are saying they were with them all along.
It isn't just Trump supporters who think what you've described is a problem. Trump supporters have no ideas or long-term strategy. They just want to return to a past their own right-wing ideas destroyed.
So you say. And even if true, their voting behavior, like many Americans, would be voting AGAINST Trump, rather than for Clinton or Biden or anyone else. I can tell you that as what my liberal family and friends call an "arch-conservative," that I easily voted for Biden rather than deal with 4 more years of Trump's spastic, inconsistent rants on Twitter.
HAHA! Well, that wouldn't be difficult since George Bush Jr. was the first and only socialist President the US has ever had. Bernie Sanders is more conservative than GW.
You are one Kool-Aid drinking dude if you believe Trump is a conservative. Start with his anti-US military statements. He actually complained about the "US military-industrial complex." He actually used that hippie/Woke term and criticized it. You'd think he was slathering himself in patchouli and getting high in Haight-Ashbury. Now, he had no idea what he was referring to or what he was complaining about when he said that -- like he often does, he just impulsively said that stuff because some general had called him an idiot, or something. It is NOT, however, a conservative position to pretend the US military is an untethered enemy of the American people, despite your apparently successful self-delusion endeavor to convince yourself that it always has been.
We could go on. Maybe this list of yours will be made in increments.
I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton. I wouldn't vote for Al Qaeda to keep her out of office. It is pure stupidity to vote for the polar opposite of your own beliefs to keep a member of your own party out of office for personal reasons.
I'm glad you wouldn't vote for Al Qaeda, but it's sad that you felt the need to confirm that.
Voting the polar opposite of your alleged beliefs, as all Trump fans did in 2020, is pure stupidity.
AdderalRoom wrote:
Trump governed as a conservative whether you're aware of it or not. You can't give any examples of him being un-conservative because you have no idea what you're talking about.
Believing Trump is a conservative involves large amount of self-delusion and fixation on the letter R next to his name.
I gave an example. A glaring, enormous example. You had nothing relevant or logical to say in response.
AdultBiff wrote:
The "us military-industrial complex" is a term coined by Eisenhower. A republican. Trump mentioned it because he tried to end the forever wars and the neo-con trash and swamp trash came out of the woodwork to destroy him for it. He knew exactly what he was talking about.
Irrelevant who coined it. Trump criticized it like a 60s college freshman. He clearly didn't have a clue what he was saying or he would never have used the term.
The 180 degree flip on "neo-con" philosophy, whatever it even meant back in the day, is one of the greatest flip flops in US politics. In the space of 4 years, your type literally sacrificed once deeply held beliefs regarding the US military, the pursuit of freedom and democracy around the world, and the dangerous nature of our enemies (e.g., Russia) solely because several notable Republicans considered Trump a whackjob. Hysteria over perceived mistreatment of your messiah has led you all to abandon everything Reagan ever stood for.
Here, read this previously posted article. It may help you understand how confused you all have become.
I'm a veteran. Trump was very pro-military. He said some unartful things about McCain but McCain is a walking talking embodiment of the swamp. If guys like Bolton and McCain got their way we'd be at war with half the world FOREVER.
"He said some unartful things about McCain"
Jesus Christ man, are you trying to prove my point? Needlessly trashing American war heroes regarding their war experiences is NOT a conservative policy, nor is apologizing for it. That's a Jane Fonda, 60s hippie policy, and I doubt she would even do it the way Trump did it. You are a looney tune man, lacking in self-awareness.
So what is your definition? The biggest US trading partners are Canada and Mexico so I'm not sure where the US navy comes in. And are you saying the US navy enables trade between the EU and China, or between Japan and Australia, etc.?
Yes, free trade is the goal of traditional conservatives, but enacting tariffs and other penalties just leads to countermeasures and more restrictive trade between all parties involved.
Globalism is an entirely new phenomenon.
The first global empire was Britain because it had a deepwater navy that no one could rival. Britain used their navy to enrich Britain and subjugate half the world.
After World War 2 the only economy on the planet that wasn't destroyed was the US economy. The only nation on earth with a Navy to speak of was the US. The US entered into an agreement with the world after WW2 where the US offered to safeguard the oceans of the world. Any nation could trade whatever they wanted with whoever they wanted. All we asked in return was that if the sh*t hit the fan with the Soviets that you took our side.
The US absolutely enables trade between everyone. If the US navy goes away globalism goes away.
It isn't "free trade" or nothing. If the trade isn't fair it isn't worth having. The entire US manufacturing base and middle class were decimated by unfair trade practices. Wanting to correct that isn't anti-conservative.
So first you claim that globalism is an entirely new phenomenon and follow that with a statement about the British Empire. Is your definition of “recent” 200 years?
And the trade of goods is only one aspect of globalism. It’s also the flow of capital and ideas, migration, off-shoring of labor, the movement of international students and even tourism. Those components of globalism are much more recent and pervasive than trade, which has been going on between countries for a long time.
I do agree that the US has been a driving force behind globalism in general, but it is certainly not the only force. And if, in fact, the US navy helps enable global trade isn’t that another tenet of traditional conservatism? That the US should have a strong global military presence? The Trump and Sanders doctrines both favor pulling back overseas resources and commitments.
There are highly intelligent people (140+) all across the political spectrum. I don’t think DeSantis is any smarter than Pete or even Bernie and the three men represent very different ideologies. It’s an obvious mistake to think that your political ideas are backed up by intelligence.
Bernie? Middle of his class Political Science Bachelor's Degree from the University of Chicago that couldn't hack it as a carpenter. That is your high stick for intelligence?
Failing the bar exam shows arrogance and lack of preparation. These are clearly faults in Harris’ personality.
Not wanting to be the world's piggy bank and police force isn't "protectionism" and opposing it isn't anti-conservative it's anti-leftist.
Every American should want to "drain the swamp". Corruption, fraud, waste and abuse are the norm in Washington. We're $30 trillion in debt and we can't sign a clean bill on ANYTHING without special interest pork all over it. It shouldn't just be "Trump supporters" who think this is a problem.
It might not be, but it's a capitalist one. And conservatives ally with business. If you don't like globalism, have a re-think.
Foreign intervention isn't a leftist cause, there was no bigger opponent of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars than the Left. Now the people who would have shouted traitor at any protesters opposing the war on February 15, 2003 are saying they were with them all along.
It isn't just Trump supporters who think what you've described is a problem. Trump supporters have no ideas or long-term strategy. They just want to return to a past their own right-wing ideas destroyed.
"Trump supporters have no ideas or long-term strategy. They just want to return to a past their own right-wing ideas destroyed."
You can't say things this stupid and be taken seriously.
All of societies biggest problems can be directly contributed to the left.
There are highly intelligent people (140+) all across the political spectrum. I don’t think DeSantis is any smarter than Pete or even Bernie and the three men represent very different ideologies. It’s an obvious mistake to think that your political ideas are backed up by intelligence.
Bernie? Middle of his class Political Science Bachelor's Degree from the University of Chicago that couldn't hack it as a carpenter. That is your high stick for intelligence?
Andrew Yang commented that he was among the sharpest in the 2020 primary. He was organizing from a young age and his focus was not on academics even though he got into a very good school (in 1960, U Chicago was considered #2 in the US). I’m not familiar with the history of standardized testing so I just googled it and it looks like he would have taken one. If it lead to his admission at the number 2 school, that’s strong evidence for a very high IQ.
I’m sure I could find a Marxist Harvard grad if you want but yes, I don’t think Ron is smarter than Bernie.
The first global empire was Britain because it had a deepwater navy that no one could rival. Britain used their navy to enrich Britain and subjugate half the world.
After World War 2 the only economy on the planet that wasn't destroyed was the US economy. The only nation on earth with a Navy to speak of was the US. The US entered into an agreement with the world after WW2 where the US offered to safeguard the oceans of the world. Any nation could trade whatever they wanted with whoever they wanted. All we asked in return was that if the sh*t hit the fan with the Soviets that you took our side.
The US absolutely enables trade between everyone. If the US navy goes away globalism goes away.
It isn't "free trade" or nothing. If the trade isn't fair it isn't worth having. The entire US manufacturing base and middle class were decimated by unfair trade practices. Wanting to correct that isn't anti-conservative.
So first you claim that globalism is an entirely new phenomenon and follow that with a statement about the British Empire. Is your definition of “recent” 200 years?
And the trade of goods is only one aspect of globalism. It’s also the flow of capital and ideas, migration, off-shoring of labor, the movement of international students and even tourism. Those components of globalism are much more recent and pervasive than trade, which has been going on between countries for a long time.
I do agree that the US has been a driving force behind globalism in general, but it is certainly not the only force. And if, in fact, the US navy helps enable global trade isn’t that another tenet of traditional conservatism? That the US should have a strong global military presence? The Trump and Sanders doctrines both favor pulling back overseas resources and commitments.
When civilization is thousands of years old yes 200 years is relatively new. The American created form of globalism in existence today is entirely new as it never occurred in the 200+ thousand years of human existence prior to it...
Without the US there would be no flow of capital or ideas either.
Trump said if the entire point of NATO is opposing Russia why is Europe buying all of its oil and gas from its primary threat?
Trump was right. The left was wrong. As usual.
Using fossil fuels is a left-wing thing now is it?
Everyone uses fossil fuels. Leftists tend to be too stupid to realize it though.
The Germans for example spent 2 TRILLION Euros on wind and solar energy only to figure out the sun doesn't sun and the wind doesn't below enough to do Germany any good.
Today the Germans are burning lignite which is the filthiest form of coal.
Leftists are always too busy being smug to notice how stupid they are.
Sure - you keep claiming equal application of the law so lemme spell it out S-L-O-W-L-Y for you because it's obvious that you're dumber than a box of rusty hammers. Yes, the Clintons rightfully took flack for their poorly secured network / IT infrastructure during the but her emails controversy.
Fortunately, from a national security standpoint, she had nothing on her private server that was remotely sensitive. There was a small amount of information which was sensitive when sent (my speculation is that it related to travel and scheduling) but nothing remotely approaching our national security. There were references to SCI materials in the emails that would have to be reviewed in a SCIF so the staff clearly knew there were lines that should never be crossed. There were only a handful of emails that were marked as classified - something like 8 out of the 30,000+ and the FBI determined another few dozen should also have been classified when sent. The reason I am confident that it was nothing important is because we damn well know Trump and his team scoured the materials and would have publicly released (redacted if necessary) anything remotely concerning. Because they didn't do that, we know there was nothing there.
This is all a long way of saying, I can't imagine trusting the shady AF Trump family small business to take any efforts to protect our national security interests. They stored vital SCI materials in a store room in their publicly open seaside resort, which is known to have been crawling with spies and which the Secret Service had trouble securing. It was a major concern for intelligence agencies during the 4 years of the Trump Tower hillbillies occupying the white house and no one could reasonably think it would improve with the reduced security apparatus post-presidency.
I would expect a major effort by international spies, domestic terrorists, script kiddies and real hackers to infiltrate Trump's network. Lord knows what they have stored. The Russians almost definitely hacked everything and chose not to release it because they still think that staying on Trump's good side is beneficial to their long-term aims.
Sure - you keep claiming equal application of the law so lemme spell it out S-L-O-W-L-Y for you because it's obvious that you're dumber than a box of rusty hammers. Yes, the Clintons rightfully took flack for their poorly secured network / IT infrastructure during the but her emails controversy.
Fortunately, from a national security standpoint, she had nothing on her private server that was remotely sensitive. There was a small amount of information which was sensitive when sent (my speculation is that it related to travel and scheduling) but nothing remotely approaching our national security. There were references to SCI materials in the emails that would have to be reviewed in a SCIF so the staff clearly knew there were lines that should never be crossed. There were only a handful of emails that were marked as classified - something like 8 out of the 30,000+ and the FBI determined another few dozen should also have been classified when sent. The reason I am confident that it was nothing important is because we damn well know Trump and his team scoured the materials and would have publicly released (redacted if necessary) anything remotely concerning. Because they didn't do that, we know there was nothing there.
This is all a long way of saying, I can't imagine trusting the shady AF Trump family small business to take any efforts to protect our national security interests. They stored vital SCI materials in a store room in their publicly open seaside resort, which is known to have been crawling with spies and which the Secret Service had trouble securing. It was a major concern for intelligence agencies during the 4 years of the Trump Tower hillbillies occupying the white house and no one could reasonably think it would improve with the reduced security apparatus post-presidency.
I would expect a major effort by international spies, domestic terrorists, script kiddies and real hackers to infiltrate Trump's network. Lord knows what they have stored. The Russians almost definitely hacked everything and chose not to release it because they still think that staying on Trump's good side is beneficial to their long-term aims.
Toodles.
She deleted the 30,000 e-mails... Amazing that you alone on earth know their contents.
Hillary said they were all about wedding planning and here you are telling us some of them were classified...
So first you claim that globalism is an entirely new phenomenon and follow that with a statement about the British Empire. Is your definition of “recent” 200 years?
And the trade of goods is only one aspect of globalism. It’s also the flow of capital and ideas, migration, off-shoring of labor, the movement of international students and even tourism. Those components of globalism are much more recent and pervasive than trade, which has been going on between countries for a long time.
I do agree that the US has been a driving force behind globalism in general, but it is certainly not the only force. And if, in fact, the US navy helps enable global trade isn’t that another tenet of traditional conservatism? That the US should have a strong global military presence? The Trump and Sanders doctrines both favor pulling back overseas resources and commitments.
Without the US there would be no flow of capital or ideas either.
This is just silly. There was exchange of ideas in Europe long before the US even existed. Ever heard of the Renaissance or the Age of Enlightenment? Where do you think our ideas about democracy and capitalism originated?
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