They chose to fight in February 2022 and have gained literally nothing.
They didn't boot Russia from anywhere... Russia pulled back after they realized Ukraine was going to fight.
It's August 2025 and you still have no idea what's happening... lol.
TAITR admits he can't find Ukraine on a map.
Here's what Ukraine gained: Chernikhiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, Sumy and Izyum and the area surrounding them. Russia "realized" that Ukraine was going to fight after getting repeatedly smashed on the battlefield and losing thousands of heavy weapons and tens of thousands of casualties.
It's not worth arguing with TAITR because he has no commitment to truth or facts. He's the most transparent Russian troll on this site. Who is dumb enough to fall for his act of "I don't support Russia, I just coincidentally repeat all their propaganda as if it were true"?
In fairness, Ukraine may not be shown as a sovereign state on Russian-made maps.
Adding actual intelligence to this thread chock full of drooling idiots, liars, and propagandists is mostly pointless. But in the event there are a couple sane folks still reading this tomb of thought, Graham Allison articulates the endgame. Russia has won the shooting war and will keep the land they've already taken. Or, they will take more land if the war continues.
Adding actual intelligence to this thread chock full of drooling idiots, liars, and propagandists is mostly pointless. But in the event there are a couple sane folks still reading this tomb of thought, Graham Allison articulates the endgame. Russia has won the shooting war and will keep the land they've already taken. Or, they will take more land if the war continues.
Winning the shooting war is the easy part, the occupation is the difficult part. As we painfully found out after 20 years in Afghanistan.
The obvious difference being eastern Ukraine is majority Russian, so much easier to “occupy.” There have never been any permanent American residents in Afghanistan.
They chose to fight in February 2022 and have gained literally nothing.
They didn't boot Russia from anywhere... Russia pulled back after they realized Ukraine was going to fight.
It's August 2025 and you still have no idea what's happening... lol.
TAITR admits he can't find Ukraine on a map.
Here's what Ukraine gained: Chernikhiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, Sumy and Izyum and the area surrounding them. Russia "realized" that Ukraine was going to fight after getting repeatedly smashed on the battlefield and losing thousands of heavy weapons and tens of thousands of casualties.
It's not worth arguing with TAITR because he has no commitment to truth or facts. He's the most transparent Russian troll on this site. Who is dumb enough to fall for his act of "I don't support Russia, I just coincidentally repeat all their propaganda as if it were true"?
Yea, only you idiot Ukrainian fanboys who think Russia is on the brink of collapse and Ukraine is winning the war are concerned with truth or facts...
1. Russia is in Sumy for the sole purpose of forcing Ukraine to commit forces and reserves it cannot spare to weaken the line in the areas it pulled those forces from. Russia 100% achieved it's objective in Sumy. Because you're a painfully stupid person you can't even comprehend this.
It's 2025, and they're still clinging to "It's just a feint, bro." The levels of cope are just astronomical.
1. Russia is in Sumy for the sole purpose of forcing Ukraine to commit forces and reserves it cannot spare to weaken the line in the areas it pulled those forces from. Russia 100% achieved it's objective in Sumy. Because you're a painfully stupid person you can't even comprehend this.
It's 2025, and they're still clinging to "It's just a feint, bro." The levels of cope are just astronomical.
You're so dumb...
You don't know anything about anything beyond that you've been told you need to virtue signal for the country you'd never heard of prior to 2022...
Russia has been fighting attritional warfare forever. When you have the numbers and your enemy doesn't guess what happens when you open new fronts.
It's 2025, and they're still clinging to "It's just a feint, bro." The levels of cope are just astronomical.
You're so dumb...
You don't know anything about anything beyond that you've been told you need to virtue signal for the country you'd never heard of prior to 2022...
Russia has been fighting attritional warfare forever. When you have the numbers and your enemy doesn't guess what happens when you open new fronts.
The biggest attritional war Russia ever fought is the cold war. It lost that war badly because leaders like Reagan and Thatcher weren't afraid of confronting authoritarians. Anyone who has any sense of history can see that Russia is just back for a rematch of the cold war as it has completely failed to develop into any sort of economic, social or cultural power. All Russia is able to do is pump oil and gas, bomb civilians in Ukraine and spend three years capturing a few small cities while basically burning through the entirety of its military equipment such that it has to buy arms from Iran and N. Korea and even imports troops from N. Korea to defend its borders.
You don't know anything about anything beyond that you've been told you need to virtue signal for the country you'd never heard of prior to 2022...
Russia has been fighting attritional warfare forever. When you have the numbers and your enemy doesn't guess what happens when you open new fronts.
The biggest attritional war Russia ever fought is the cold war. It lost that war badly because leaders like Reagan and Thatcher weren't afraid of confronting authoritarians. Anyone who has any sense of history can see that Russia is just back for a rematch of the cold war as it has completely failed to develop into any sort of economic, social or cultural power. All Russia is able to do is pump oil and gas, bomb civilians in Ukraine and spend three years capturing a few small cities while basically burning through the entirety of its military equipment such that it has to buy arms from Iran and N. Korea and even imports troops from N. Korea to defend its borders.
Youre so dumb....
The city of Verdun was tiny, therefore, any battle for it is completely insignificant by your childish logic.
They are battling over small cities in Ukraine because Ukraine is committing vast forces to defend them. Vowing they will never fall... and then losing them anyway.
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.
The biggest attritional war Russia ever fought is the cold war. It lost that war badly because leaders like Reagan and Thatcher weren't afraid of confronting authoritarians. Anyone who has any sense of history can see that Russia is just back for a rematch of the cold war as it has completely failed to develop into any sort of economic, social or cultural power. All Russia is able to do is pump oil and gas, bomb civilians in Ukraine and spend three years capturing a few small cities while basically burning through the entirety of its military equipment such that it has to buy arms from Iran and N. Korea and even imports troops from N. Korea to defend its borders.
Youre so dumb....
The city of Verdun was tiny, therefore, any battle for it is completely insignificant by your childish logic.
They are battling over small cities in Ukraine because Ukraine is committing vast forces to defend them. Vowing they will never fall... and then losing them anyway.
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.
You should think twice about calling people dumb and throwing insults out in every post not just because it shows that you are just a miserable human being who cannot engage in a debate without having to try to make yourself feel like a superior person with your dumb insults. But also because THE GERMANS WERE THE ONES WHO HAD THE BRIGHT IDEA TO THROW EVERYTHING THEY HAD AT VERDUN!!!!!! And they lost the war even as the world marveled at the great German fighting machine that everyone thought would wear down allied powers.
The city of Verdun was tiny, therefore, any battle for it is completely insignificant by your childish logic.
They are battling over small cities in Ukraine because Ukraine is committing vast forces to defend them. Vowing they will never fall... and then losing them anyway.
You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.
You should think twice about calling people dumb and throwing insults out in every post not just because it shows that you are just a miserable human being who cannot engage in a debate without having to try to make yourself feel like a superior person with your dumb insults. But also because THE GERMANS WERE THE ONES WHO HAD THE BRIGHT IDEA TO THROW EVERYTHING THEY HAD AT VERDUN!!!!!! And they lost the war even as the world marveled at the great German fighting machine that everyone thought would wear down allied powers.
When you CONSTANTLY say stupid things youre going to get called dumb.
Because youre an idiot you think Germany's plan in WW1 was attrition warfare.
Germany was fighting England and France in the west and had LESS soldiers than their enemy. You do not fight attrition warfare when you are outnumbered.
Verdun was an attempt to break the line and end the stalemate. Just like the Somme was an attempt to break the line and end the stalemate.
Germany mobilized 11 million men. Russia, Britain, and France mobilized almost 30 million men.
As always you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.
You don't know anything about anything beyond that you've been told you need to virtue signal for the country you'd never heard of prior to 2022...
Russia has been fighting attritional warfare forever. When you have the numbers and your enemy doesn't guess what happens when you open new fronts.
The biggest attritional war Russia ever fought is the cold war. It lost that war badly because leaders like Reagan and Thatcher weren't afraid of confronting authoritarians. Anyone who has any sense of history can see that Russia is just back for a rematch of the cold war as it has completely failed to develop into any sort of economic, social or cultural power. All Russia is able to do is pump oil and gas, bomb civilians in Ukraine and spend three years capturing a few small cities while basically burning through the entirety of its military equipment such that it has to buy arms from Iran and N. Korea and even imports troops from N. Korea to defend its borders.
Buddy you are so clearly brain washed by western media. This military operation was provoked by the US and NATO. Russia will continue to pursue it’s stated military goals and people like you will continue to be in denial until it all falls apart.
After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
So the same exact same perspective as Biden. Returning to the borders before the war is fantasy land.
After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
So the same exact same perspective as Biden. Returning to the borders before the war is fantasy land.
He's posturing.
He tried to end the war. Ukraine's corrupt politicians want to keep fighting.
Now hes all for continuing the war with the EU funding it and the US staying the hell out of it beyond selling weapons to the EU.
As he said in the UN today Europe is still buying Russian energy. These idiots are funding both sides of the war.
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