Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or &quot

Turkdog-

I was told it is pointless to get one now because your body is dysfunctional and in protection mode. During the assessment the movements are such that you can not fake it. You either have the strength/symmetry or not. Chances are that with AP/SH you are not symetrical. In fact during my assessment it was noted that my core is basically divided in half in terms of strength.

Yesterdays I showed alot of improvement in core stabilty and rotation. i also improved greatly on my shoulder mobility which has alot to do with your posture.

I am by no means cured. I have a lot of work to do to correct dysfuntions, but if i did not have this damn MCL tear i would be alot further along. It forces me to brace my ankle which in turn taxes other muscles while walking and i walk close to 2 hours a day.

P.S. - Just about every therapist I met thought they could fix me. From regular PT guys (4 of them), to CHEK practitioners, to Z Health, to egoscue....however if you are torn at the RA....aint nothing going to help short of surgery

Can you say Sports Hernia?...sure sounds he could be heading that way....

Hunter still aching from wall crashes: It's been nearly two months since Tori Hunter slammed into the outfield wall at Dodger Stadium to rob Matt Kemp - and he hasn't been close to the same since. Then, the Angels' dynamic center fielder did it again in mid-June at San Francisco's AT&T Park. "Since I hit the wall, my body went down hill," the eight-time Gold Glover said Thursday, trying to get through the boredom of being on the disabled list with a right groin strain he says stems from the first collision. This is his first stint on the DL in three years and first since joining the Angels after the 2007 season. Hunter, chosen to his third AL All-Star team but unable to participate, leads Los Angeles with 17 home runs and 65 RBI. "I hate this," said Hunter, who turns 34 on Saturday. "I don't know what to do. I'm bored."

Hey all,

I'm happy to report I'm still feeling better every day, getting more mobile with less pain. Tomorrow I'm about to start the 11-17-day (last) phase of the 3-week rehab protocol. I am not working with a physical therapist until Thursday, and have some questions I'm hoping the group might be able to answer about some of the prescribed exercises:

1. What are cross-overs and straddles (listed under "strengthening" in addition to sprinting, lunges, pylometrics)?

2. Also What are Figure 8s? Is this as simple as running a figure 8?

3. Any ideas about "50-yard agility drills" to incorporate into a jogging routine?

I feel like the exercises are really helping me and am optimistic I'll be back in action within a few weeks. Hope everyone else is doing well and thanks in advance for any thoughts on these exercises.

HP-

I had the same questions and I have no idea what they are.

I would say figure 8's are in and out of cones and backpeddling coming back..

Cross overs I thought were cariocie's (spelling) sideways run while crossing over...

I did those in the pool due to inflammation in my adductors...

I also tore my MCL around day 18 i think....So it really set me back.

I think you can do about anything because you do not have adductor issues.

The best money I ever spent was getting the FMS...It really zeroed in on my weaknesses. It is a difficult test but is based on functional movement instead of targeted muscles.

In fact I have improved dramatically in my core strength from my initial screen. The test was $75 and each initial follow up (every 4 weeks) is $75. I need it because have amny dysfunctions and i never want to revisit this again.

I have not felt this good in 15 years. My posture is outstanding. I have no hip flexor tightness...no quad tightness. I get sore in my glutes alot because they are becoming active. All my hip pain is also gone.

My mobility and flexibility is off the charts.

My AP side is around 95% now. I think if i did not have the injured MCL and Plantar Fasciatis i would be running 3 miles a day by now. Even with this I am doing 40 yd dashes the last 2 days. Not very fast but I can not believe it.

Even before my injury I could not do that. My hips used to be so tight.

HP...i am psyced at your progress. I am sure there is a FMS person near you. Mine is a kineseologist and has a lot of degrees. He has a great eye also. He noticed that my ankle was locking up to protect my MCL and this in turn was tightening my IT band, TFL and medius after I walk for more than an hour.

Meyers is a genius and I owe him my health.

go to u tube and type in that stuff... you will get some good examples .....gear your rehab towards your sport

Turkdog, check out the Michael Boyles articles(2) ON THIS PROBLEM. tHE PAIN IS FLEXION AND ADDUCTION COMBINED- Pectineus and adductor brevis combining during that pushing out phase of movement(ie: the stride of a skater or pushing those mats, trippping up on them- Same for me and my worst problem before the surgery- helpless weak short circuit, painful reaction- ffed up!-

Also, understand that the eccentric contration of the adductors as stabilizers during abduction(moving leg out and away) is where the weakness occurs in me and seems like in you. From my experience, this will not subside and I do not believe training this area directly is the best route, presurgery. I recommend crosstraining and minimizing this pain- strengthen the core. If surgery is successful, go slow on recovery. i agree with the other dude- Avoid therapy, action that creates intense popping or riping.

also, during recovery from stride you have the adductor mag., long., and gracilis etending and adducting. This is the way I understand it. I just had my 2nd surgery and we will see if it is repaired. For me, sort term goal is to get a day to day consistent range of motion with no pain for a while before I put and loads on those muscles to perform(velocity of movemnt as described by Boyles)

Den

Abert, Please ask ur FMS guy if he knows of one in nassau county LOng islnd. would like to see a physio or kinesiologist. I think they are probably more knowledgeable. Please post or e-mail me

denpr9@optonline.net

Thanks

Dennis

This is the entire NY list with phone number and credentials.

Most NFL teams now use the FMS and so does Boyle and Robertson among others.

I can not say how great this was to see where I am and to get me moving as efficiently as possible.

Here is the link that shows the actual screening excercises

and go to Functional Movement Screen Article...It also has pics...

Im just starting to watch the Core X dvds and I like the concept.....and Alberts FMS stuff probably involves the same concept......Using your whole body to train your core.....If you think about it a lot of Core stuff PT's give you are just isolating 1 or 2 muscles...like a crunch or an Oblique curl.....or there other stuff is is using a lot of muscles in the lower body but none in the upper.....Using a combo of upper body and lower body movements are where its at.....Your using your core with a lot of upper body movements and they need to work together....for example a few weeks ago I was trimming the hedges ...Im thinking I can do this since it apperas to be all upper body...well that night and the whole next day my already torn RA, Groin and also low back were killing me...Using the Hedge trimmer needed my core/lower body to work together with my upper to perform that task....So I like the Idea of any functional rehab stuff using the whole body........Core X and the FMS stuff are probably 2 of the best...

Tried some activity last week that was outside my normal activities - some lateral movements and slight sprinting. My pubic bones feels like its on fire, and my lower abdomen has a dull ache with the occasional sharp pain. I can't say I'm at all happy with the results of my surgery.

Sorry to hear that.....when was your surgery date and what did they repair????

turkdog, I have Oxford and they deny all claims for Meyers' surgery on the grounds that it is "not proven to be clinically effective."

For more go here:

https://www.oxhp.com/secure/policy/surgical_treatment_athletic_pubalgia_409.html

Marcia from Dr. Meyers' office tells me that someone recently successfully appealed an Oxford denial, though, so I am hopeful that I will be able to do the same.

Hope that helps.

Late February '09. Bilateral repair with nerve removal on both sides and mesh removal on the right side. That was messy.

It truly is amazing how this is not clinically successful. Maybe they should turn on the TV and watch Josh Hamilton, Ian Kinsler, Daniel Briere, Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb, Shockey, Grant Hill, Birk, Zack Miller.....

I guess those do not count.

I'm a Flyers fan. I turn the tv on all the time to see Briere in the press box due to multiple SH repairs, recurrences, and complications. He's considered one of the biggest busts in hockey right now.

Brady's was an inguinal, reported as an SH.

Not to burst your bubble, but making sure the facts are accurate.

That being said, I do think surgery is the only way to heal this and the key is catching it early and dealing with it.

Well, I have Carefirst Bluecross Blueshield PPO. Marcia said that i'm fine, but I need to make sure.

I'm on an individual plan, not group plan. Has anyone had trouble with BCBS PPO?

turkdog wrote:

Well, I have Carefirst Bluecross Blueshield PPO. Marcia said that i'm fine, but I need to make sure.

I'm on an individual plan, not group plan. Has anyone had trouble with BCBS PPO?

ce

I have a BCBS PPO (Standard) plan through the US Government.

Received payment on my claim today. I filed 6500 (combo of surgery and hospital stay) and received 3100 in my acct today. I contacted BCBS and Mondial for an explanation of the claim pay out. I was advised reimbursement would be in the vicinity of 80%. I received less than 50, but I'm going to wait on the explanation of benefits before I proceed further. More info to come.

Hope this helps some for all you BCBSers thinking of heading to UM, this should at least provide some comfort that at least a sizable portion of your surgery will be refunded to you.

Rem-

not bursting my bubble at all. I imagine hockey is probably one of the hardest sports to get back to due to the huge stress on the adductors...

I am just saying the list is very long of successes....

I had a Flyer in my room when I arrived...He was leaving. I do not even know his name but had never heard of him.

This injury is a bitch for sure and needs attention everyday...

I am almost 10 weeks and if I take a day off I tighten up pretty good, but I am happy how fast I have healed. My AP is very strong right now and minimal pain. My adductor still gets tired at the end of a long day.

My biggest challenge is correcting the other side weakness. Sure is slow....but i am so far ahead of where i was pre-surgery