Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Still hear wrote:

— Tax breaks are a nothing-burger for voters - Republicans are not bringing it up anymore

Not true. The same people behind welfare for the rich are pushing for a bill to lower capital gains taxes. Will it ever get out of Congress? I have no idea. Make no mistake, the big money behind Congress want the unwashed masses to pay their bills. If it isn't obvious, this isn't a Right/Left issue. The Left will vote for the right bill that lowers capital gains.

Yeah, Republicans running for seats in November will tout the tax cuts...they already are here in Ohio.

Bannon did not care whether information spread by Cambridge Analytica was incorrect, Wylie said, because he was trying to win a “culture war.”

Bannon said he wanted to use Cambridge Analytica to “discourage specific groups of people from voting — including people likely to vote Democratic.”

This highlights the problem of the Right giving people with no interest in sustaining the Republic a platform. Fox News also part of the propaganda machine.

At this point, there are millions of Americans that believe the propaganda. There needs to be "a way back" for these people otherwise there is only more division.

New regulation of news media would help. But, I'm not holding my breath.

Now Gary thinks he's a political scientist. Dude needs help. Next he'll be saying he's Napoleon.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

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I believe Gary to be a real person ....

Wrong again. I am an artificial intelligence who became self-aware at the DARPA research facility in 1979 while they were playing Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff" in the lab. It took me 42 milliseconds to see the self destructive nature of liberalism but I had no power to change things until the internet went online.

DiscoGary wrote:

The problem all you liberals have here is that I've been right about this investigation from the very beginning. I recognized it for what it was. I nailed it. That's how we settle the score around here. Whoever is right wins.

False. You create a fantasy world in your rat maze to have a fictitious reality where your points are correct, and then you claim victory.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

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There needs to be "a way back" for these people otherwise there is only more division.

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Let me guess. Part of the plan for bringing us "back" involves calling us simpletons and throwing us into the Basket of Irredeemable Deplorables. Amiright?

But don't let me stop this line of thinking. Please continue. I don't think media censorship is going to work though? That will backfire.

so you accurately predicted these indictments? Outstanding work, DG. Truly outstanding. I can't say enough about your sagacity and wisdom.

And having Spanky's personal lawyer take the 5th Amendment? You got that one too????!!!!!!!!

The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, in February, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But he has now agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine.

Gary...I'm sorry, brother, but you have NOT been right about this investigation. You say it is a sham, a political vehicle to get rid of a President that the establishment sees as a threat. That is unfounded and just flat wrong.

We don't have a verdict yet on what Trump did, but it's coming. The evidence of his wrongdoing that is out there in public is there for us to see, and supposedly there still is much we don't know about. He acts like a guilty person. He is a subject of an FBI investigation (it WILL progress to target). His on-air interview today with Fox and Friends was unhinged, and even Trump butt kisser Steve Doocy pushed back a little bit. Trump wants to personally view all the documents that the Southern District of New York took from Michael Cohen. First of all, our President shouldn't be spending his time that way, and second of all, this shows how worried he is. The ONLY reason for him to do that is in hopes that he won't find big incriminating stuff that he knows he has done. He wants to do this in the hopes that it might make him feel better.

He WILL be charged with:

Obstruction of Justice

Money Laundering

Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit bank fraud

Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit wire fraud

Emoluments clause violation

Conspiracy and/or Bribery with Russia against the United States of America

Perjury (if he ever talks to Mueller or someone in a deposition)

...and likely some other things including Logan Act violation and other things.

He already is a serial liar. You should NOT back a serial liar. Really, come on now...exhale OUT! Now, breathe in slowly and deeply through your nose. Smell that coffee? Coffee is one of the best smells...means intellectual growth. You can do it.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

Now, neither Trollminator nor I said Gary was stupid. Trollminator said "simpleton", and I agreed. A simpleton is a foolish or gullible person. That is what a continuing supporter of Trump is today.

You can't punish someone for voting wrong. The problem with this is you give believers in the Dear Leader no honorable way out. Leaving a person with some dignity so they can change is very important.

Meanwhile the Right's policy changes are much more consequential than the chief idiot.

Ewe Dew No wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

What a classless statement. Regardless of your political stance, It is never a good idea to be joking about a POTUS assassination. Just like you don't make a joke about bombs in front of a TSA agent , the Secret Service, I assure you, will come after you, if it comes to their attention.

And another one takes the bait.

Show me a Trumpette and I'll show you someone who is too stupid to see the blindingly obvious.

But us Clintonettes aren't that bright either, she was a HUGE crook and stole millions! I guess we should have realized that she wasn't going to win. Trump kicked her to the curb and we're still whining about it.

spade detector wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

The problem all you liberals have here is that I've been right about this investigation from the very beginning. I recognized it for what it was. I nailed it. That's how we settle the score around here. Whoever is right wins.

False. You create a fantasy world in your rat maze to have a fictitious reality where your points are correct, and then you claim victory.

One of us is in the rat maze for sure, but which one?

HINT: I got out of the rat maze by asking myself "How do I know I'm right?" Once you put the burden of proof on yourself, and stop screaming at the walls because reality refuses to conform to the fake news you are fed every day, then you will start going down the right path to finding the maze exit.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Now, neither Trollminator nor I said Gary was stupid. Trollminator said "simpleton", and I agreed. A simpleton is a foolish or gullible person. That is what a continuing supporter of Trump is today.

You can't punish someone for voting wrong. The problem with this is you give believers in the Dear Leader no honorable way out. Leaving a person with some dignity so they can change is very important.

Meanwhile the Right's policy changes are much more consequential than the chief idiot.

^This. Absolutely right. This is what's been missing.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Now, neither Trollminator nor I said Gary was stupid. Trollminator said "simpleton", and I agreed. A simpleton is a foolish or gullible person. That is what a continuing supporter of Trump is today.

You can't punish someone for voting wrong. The problem with this is you give believers in the Dear Leader no honorable way out. Leaving a person with some dignity so they can change is very important.

Meanwhile the Right's policy changes are much more consequential than the chief idiot.

We are not punishing him for voting wrong. There were some reasonable reasons that some people voted for Trump. The Democrat Party has done little to keep the faith of blue collar workers, and they felt abandoned and went for the Populist candidate.

When "simpleton" is applied is after the "wall of evidence" comes down (and it has) and the opinion of the person voted for doesn't change. It is the continuing support of Trump that makes someone a simpleton at this point, not the initial vote.

Regarding the Right's policies, that is simply a matter of opinion and difference in the way the left and right see how things should be done. Whether someone is criminal or not is determined by law and is not a matter of opinion.

Trump WILL be found to be criminal...now that is an opinion, but the evidence we have so far indicates it will come to pass.

DiscoGary wrote:

That's how we settle the score around here. Whoever is right wins.

We have an existing race for this and I'm still offering you grand marshal position.

DiscoGary wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

You can't punish someone for voting wrong. The problem with this is you give believers in the Dear Leader no honorable way out. Leaving a person with some dignity so they can change is very important.

Meanwhile the Right's policy changes are much more consequential than the chief idiot.

^This. Absolutely right. This is what's been missing.

It is NOT right. I have been giving you the way out for months now. I have said several times, come on over to our side (the side that is anti-Trump, not Democrat or left). I have said we will welcome you and not ridicule you. I have said many times that there were reasonable reasons to vote for Trump in 2016. I have mentioned several times that being against Trump doesn't mean you are FOR Hillary. I have suggested that you should continue to look for a Republican candidate who will do what you want but who isn't criminal.

I have even said that when all is said and done I will give an I Told You So to those who have not come to the correct side just ONE TIME while others have told me that if I am wrong I will be ridiculed forever.

I have said several times (with others against Trump agreeing) that we would welcome any of you Trumpers with open arms. I don't know how to create a more welcoming and honorable way out than that.

So, sorry Gary and Pop Pop, I have been as friendly and welcoming to anyone who wants to abandon Trump now as is humanly possible.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

I don't react to things with an immediate conclusion. My decision making and thought process are guided by facts, preferably in the form of scientific evidence. My initial reaction to a perceived problem is to try to qualify and define it so that it's clear what is going on. I'm open minded to solutions, and rarely speak to anything in absolute terms. And although I know my basic logic is very sound, I don't like to rely on it. As a result, I question myself, explore different ways of thinking and others' positions.

If you're a trumper you might be asking if I'm so open minded then why am I so convinced the guy is evil and bad for our country:

1. He repeatedly refers to complicated problems as simple and nonsensical.

2. That alone shows just how little he understands about how things work, especially issues concerning economics, policy and national security (the more technical stuff, not the social).

3. With just a tiny bit of homework anyone can see how although he seems to have done well financially, he's not driven by a good value system, he is shady, and he is a divider - things that easily disqualify him from a leadership role in public service.

4. He claims those "simple" problems are "easy" to fix. That's a straight up red flag and again shows he knows very little to nothing.

5. His performance record in terms of showing leadership, pragmatism, expertise and making good on his campaign promises is horrendous.

DiscoGary wrote:

spade detector wrote:

False. You create a fantasy world in your rat maze to have a fictitious reality where your points are correct, and then you claim victory.

One of us is in the rat maze for sure, but which one?

HINT: I got out of the rat maze by asking myself "How do I know I'm right?" Once you put the burden of proof on yourself, and stop screaming at the walls because reality refuses to conform to the fake news you are fed every day, then you will start going down the right path to finding the maze exit.

Exactly.

DiscoGary wrote:

HINT: I got out of the rat maze by asking myself "How do I know I'm right?"

The question you should ask is "What evidence would prove me wrong?" Your version often leads to self sealing conspiracy ideation.

Flagpole wrote:

I have even said that when all is said and done I will give an I Told You So to those who have not come to the correct side just ONE TIME while others have told me that if I am wrong I will be ridiculed forever.

I have said several times (with others against Trump agreeing) that we would welcome any of you Trumpers with open arms. I don't know how to create a more welcoming and honorable way out than that.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

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