Fat hurts wrote:
fauxkjdfsn wrote:
Storm's lawyer tells lies to keep his name in the news.
Name a lie told by Avenatti.
He certainly doesn't need to lie to keep his name in the news. The Stormy Daniels case is one of the biggest news stories this century.
The person who is desperate to keep his name in the news is Trump.
DiscoGary wrote:
And still there's no evidence that Trump broke any law, while Hillary's known crimes go unpunished.
The Swamp is destroying the country in it's attempt to take down Trump. Damage is being done that will be hard to repair. Limbaugh talked about this for the first time yesterday, so finally there's a third person after me and my best friend Dershowitz talking about this in public. Hopefully this topic will become mainstream so that everyone can start thinking about how to end this and how to fix the damage.
For sure! What we need are more people - LOTS more people - who lie with every other sentence they make.
Right, Lying Gary?
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I would also like to acknowledge - "But what about Clinton?"
Good job, Lying Gary.
- Your BIGLYEST fan
DiscoGary wrote:
And still there's no evidence that Trump broke any law, while Hillary's known crimes go unpunished.
The Swamp is destroying the country in it's attempt to take down Trump. Damage is being done that will be hard to repair. Limbaugh talked about this for the first time yesterday, so finally there's a third person after me and my best friend Dershowitz talking about this in public. Hopefully this topic will become mainstream so that everyone can start thinking about how to end this and how to fix the damage.
The damage begins to be repaired when Trump is out of office. HE is the cause of the damage.
DiscoGary wrote:
And still there's no evidence that Trump broke any law, while Hillary's known crimes go unpunished.
You don't know what evidence exists on Trump's law-abidance as the investigation is ongoing, much to your dismay.
Clinton has been investigated several times. It's unfortunate that you aren't happy with the outcomes.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Will the Christian Right stand with Trump if they find out he financed an abortion, especially if it was his?
Abortion is probably the one issue that the Religious Right will not waver on. Trump could shoot someone on 5th avenue and evangelicals would still support him. But if Trump in any way condoned an abortion then I think that they would indeed finally abandon him.
But we are a long, long, long, long, long way from proving that the godless Trump had anything to do with an abortion.
I have to say, I'm kind of shocked at what Avenatti said this morning. If Avenatti's reporting of the courtroom proceedings are accurate then it does show that something is amiss. He said that the three clients of Cohen were Trump, Hannity, and the Trump Organization. Broidy was not one of the three.
But I don't think that means the father of the aborted child was definitely either Trump or Hannity. Until now, everyone assumed the father was Broidy. It still could be. It might be that Broidy is simply waving attorney client privilege. I don't know why he would do that, but it is a possibility.
And I thought that a copy of Broidy's NDA was made public. Am I wrong about that?
Yeah, there are too many unknowns so far about who the father of this aborted fetus might be. Avenatti hinted that it was likely either Trump or Hannity, but I suppose we don't know yet. Avenatti has been a pretty straight shooter so far and has not been wrong about anything he has predicted, but he didn't quite go so far as to say it HAD to be one of the two. I mean, if the Trump Organization is one of the clients, I suppose it could be someone in the organization, but that seems far fetched. We will just have to wait and see.
DiscoGary wrote:
And still there's no evidence that Trump broke any law, while Hillary's known crimes go unpunished.
The Swamp is destroying the country in it's attempt to take down Trump. Damage is being done that will be hard to repair. Limbaugh talked about this for the first time yesterday, so finally there's a third person after me and my best friend Dershowitz talking about this in public. Hopefully this topic will become mainstream so that everyone can start thinking about how to end this and how to fix the damage.
Trump just acknowledged - ON FOX AND FRIENDS - that he's been lying about the affair and the payment all along, and Cohen is taking the fifth because he doesn't want to incriminate himself (of what?) Let that sink in. The president of the United States just acknowledged that he's been LYING TO AND MISLEADING THE PUBLIC about a one night stand with a porn star and having his attorney buy her silence.
If he'll lie about something that trivial, what about the important things? Let that sink in.
When's the divorce? How about the impeachment? If Obama had done something like this, you Republicans would be screaming bloody murder and have an impeachment committee all ready to go.
*Crickets*
The GOP has become utterly corrupt and you embrace it. This administration should be dismantled and everyone involved investigated more thoroughly as the GOP did with Hillary Clinton (which turned up nada). The corruption at this point is well beyond what any other administration has displayed including Nixon, Bush2, Reagan.
Fat hurts wrote:
fauxkjdfsn wrote:
Storm's lawyer tells lies to keep his name in the news.
Name a lie told by Avenatti.
He certainly doesn't need to lie to keep his name in the news. The Stormy Daniels case is one of the biggest news stories this century.
Yep...no lies coming from Avenatti. He has no need to lie...he has the truth on his side.
He IS on every show seemingly all the time (it's quite amazing actually), but it's a HUGE case, one that might bring down this President, so it's reasonable that he would be on frequently.
Mueller is coming. Avenatii is coming, along with others.
The clown is done.
I only speak the truth...or what the media feeds me, and they're offering up an all-you-can-eat glutton fest of Pee Parties, Russkie hackers, American traitors, porn starlets with more integrity than a sitting POTUS, a bunch of incompetent appointees and a whole damn swarm of creeps, ghouls, real Nazi and who knows what else.
You can't make this stuff up. Trump is going to leave a permanent sh!!t stain on America...and we all lose.
Flagpole wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Name a lie told by Avenatti.
He certainly doesn't need to lie to keep his name in the news. The Stormy Daniels case is one of the biggest news stories this century.
Yep...no lies coming from Avenatti. He has no need to lie...he has the truth on his side.
He IS on every show seemingly all the time (it's quite amazing actually), but it's a HUGE case, one that might bring down this President, so it's reasonable that he would be on frequently.
Mueller is coming. Avenatii is coming, along with others.
The clown is done.
As I said many months ago and on many occasions, there will be no findings of collusion. Trump will be "brought down" ultimately by a woman and/or money.
Trump has weakness in the things he can't get others to do for him. He has a long and successful history of insulating himself from direct exposure . Frustratingly for him, he's got to do the woman thing all by himself.
DiscoGary wrote:
The Swamp is destroying the country in it's attempt to take down Trump. Damage is being done that will be hard to repair. Limbaugh talked about this for the first time yesterday, so finally there's a third person after me and my best friend Dershowitz talking about this in public. Hopefully this topic will become mainstream so that everyone can start thinking about how to end this and how to fix the damage.
Trump is the swamp.
So getting rid of Trump helps to fulfill one of his campaign promises: draining the swamp.
XY wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Yep...no lies coming from Avenatti. He has no need to lie...he has the truth on his side.
He IS on every show seemingly all the time (it's quite amazing actually), but it's a HUGE case, one that might bring down this President, so it's reasonable that he would be on frequently.
Mueller is coming. Avenatii is coming, along with others.
The clown is done.
As I said many months ago and on many occasions, there will be no findings of collusion. Trump will be "brought down" ultimately by a woman and/or money.
Trump has weakness in the things he can't get others to do for him. He has a long and successful history of insulating himself from direct exposure . Frustratingly for him, he's got to do the woman thing all by himself.
It is unclear what of the many things will be the ONE that people will credit for bringing down this President, but collusion is definitely on the table, and I predict that he WILL face that charge and be found guilty in the form of either conspiracy or bribery. It is not a matter of if he committed any crimes, just how many. He, and/or his campaign or close advisers have conspired with Russia to swing the election in his favor. This will be discovered, even if something else takes him down first.
Flagpole wrote:
XY wrote:
As I said many months ago and on many occasions, there will be no findings of collusion. Trump will be "brought down" ultimately by a woman and/or money.
Trump has weakness in the things he can't get others to do for him. He has a long and successful history of insulating himself from direct exposure . Frustratingly for him, he's got to do the woman thing all by himself.
It is unclear what of the many things will be the ONE that people will credit for bringing down this President, but collusion is definitely on the table, and I predict that he WILL face that charge and be found guilty in the form of either conspiracy or bribery. It is not a matter of if he committed any crimes, just how many. He, and/or his campaign or close advisers have conspired with Russia to swing the election in his favor. This will be discovered, even if something else takes him down first.
Agreed, and well said. The burden to prove collusion (which is not necessarily illegal) is too great and has too many confounding factors, including intentionality. The details of a collusion charge arent salacious enough to sway public opinion enough to do anything about Trump. It will only generate more conspiracy deep state theories believed by his base.
My favorite comment from his FOX interview: "I'm so much tougher on Russia than Obama ever was". He couldn't have something more absurd. He is obsessed with Obama and Clinton. He was unhinged during the whole interview - just went on a tear. Anyone who still has a shred of doubt about his total dishonesty should check into a mental health clinic. It has come down to this - trumpers are no longer denying he is a serial liar and likely criminal, they are just blaming the political system for being unfair to him. Trump is completely outmatched and exposed.
Flagpole wrote:
It is unclear what of the many things will be the ONE that people will credit for bringing down this President, but collusion is definitely on the table, and I predict that he WILL face that charge and be found guilty in the form of either conspiracy or bribery. It is not a matter of if he committed any crimes, just how many. He, and/or his campaign or close advisers have conspired with Russia to swing the election in his favor. This will be discovered, even if something else takes him down first.
I saw something the other day on the possible charge of bribery. The discussion centered around the fact that you can engage in bribery even if you aren't yet a public official, just as long as you have been nominated for government job.
The statute actually defines "public official" as including "any person who has been nominated or appointed to be a public official"
But I think you would have a hard time in court if you say that Trump took a bribe from the Russians while he was merely a candidate. A candidate for office probably doesn't qualify under the statute.
Although, if you can prove that the bribery scheme included the transition period after he was elected, maybe you would have something.
Trollminator wrote:trumpers are no longer denying he is a serial liar and likely criminal, they are just blaming the political system for being unfair to him. Trump is completely outmatched and exposed.
He's got his base of racists, xenophobes and Christians who will never leave him and multiple propaganda outlets. He's going to be okay, for now.
Congressional Republicans are still walking the line to get more of their agenda done. And make no mistake, they are getting legislation done. So, all the attention on Trump works fine for Congress.
I heard a small part of the interview. What. an. idiot. I wonder how many more things he admitted.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
He's got his base of racists, xenophobes and Christians who will never leave him and multiple propaganda outlets.
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Proving that you have learned nothing in the last two years.
What he said was entirely correct, Gary.
DiscoGary wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
He's got his base of racists, xenophobes and Christians who will never leave him and multiple propaganda outlets.
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Proving that you have learned nothing in the last two years.
DiscoGary wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
He's got his base of racists, xenophobes and Christians who will never leave him and multiple propaganda outlets.
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Proving that you have learned nothing in the last two years.
All of your reasons for supporting Trump are dead.
— DACA is back - thanks to a Republican judge
— WALL is dead - RIP
— Tax breaks are a nothing-burger for voters - Republicans are not bringing it up anymore
— Obamacare lives - Republicans are not bringing it up anymore
— Immigration ban is dead - thanks to Gorsuch
So what is left? Exactly what pop_pop posted.
This Trump collusion thing has turned from a political tactic into a religion. This is very similar to the Global Warming religion where adherents will not even consider the possibility that the theory is wrong, and simply lash out at those who question it. Most of you anti-Trumpers are unable to accept that this persecution has not found evidence of wrongdoing. You are existing in a fantasy world of conspiracies, lies, and misinformation.
I can tell already that most of you will never be able to snap out of this state.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
It is unclear what of the many things will be the ONE that people will credit for bringing down this President, but collusion is definitely on the table, and I predict that he WILL face that charge and be found guilty in the form of either conspiracy or bribery. It is not a matter of if he committed any crimes, just how many. He, and/or his campaign or close advisers have conspired with Russia to swing the election in his favor. This will be discovered, even if something else takes him down first.
I saw something the other day on the possible charge of bribery. The discussion centered around the fact that you can engage in bribery even if you aren't yet a public official, just as long as you have been nominated for government job.
The statute actually defines "public official" as including "any person who has been nominated or appointed to be a public official"
But I think you would have a hard time in court if you say that Trump took a bribe from the Russians while he was merely a candidate. A candidate for office probably doesn't qualify under the statute.
Although, if you can prove that the bribery scheme included the transition period after he was elected, maybe you would have something.
Good thought, but in 1962 the law was changed so that CANDIDATES could be charged with bribery in this very type of situation that faces Trump...don't have to be in office yet!