Yup Purzz wrote:
http://time.com/4711764/donald-trump-pretend-truck-photo-white-house/That would be wrote:
That would be Trump.
That was an unforgettable my embarrassing one! There is some video footage that shows just how excited Trump was to get in the big loud truck! Just like a 6-year old. He was in there honking away. Some of the most obnoxious and bizarre behavior I’ve seen from a supposedly sane grown man.
Flagpole wrote:
I will provide this caveat -- if it is ONLY the coverup of Trump paying women after he slept with them to keep them quiet, then I will say I was wrong. The charges have to be along the lines of obstruction of justice, money laundering, and/or conspiracy (to commit fraud of some kind...bank, wire, or with Russians to help him win the election).
Now, IF the adulterer stuff takes him down first, but he is STILL ultimately charged with those other things, then I am still right. I am only wrong if he skates on these bigger accusations.
I will accept this since it does not narrow your position in such a way as to give you favor. Caveat added to my documentation.
Down Goes Down Goes the Dow wrote:
Down Goes Down Goes the Dow!
Oh yeah...just another thread where I was told I was wrong and that the Dow would drop to below 13,000 and then someone said 7,000 and then even more from some others.
Oh well, I was proven right on that thread a long time ago and so I hardly ever go there anymore.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I will provide this caveat -- if it is ONLY the coverup of Trump paying women after he slept with them to keep them quiet, then I will say I was wrong. The charges have to be along the lines of obstruction of justice, money laundering, and/or conspiracy (to commit fraud of some kind...bank, wire, or with Russians to help him win the election).
Now, IF the adulterer stuff takes him down first, but he is STILL ultimately charged with those other things, then I am still right. I am only wrong if he skates on these bigger accusations.
I will accept this since it does not narrow your position in such a way as to give you favor. Caveat added to my documentation.
That is fair. My integrity would never allow a change to the rules that add things in my favor. That's how I roll.
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
Hello Hillary lovers. Still butt hurt?
The mueller investigation is a bust, so the whiny, shrieking democrats are suing.
That’s hilarious!!!!!
Meanwhile,Trump’s approval is above 50%.
Suck on that, you queer democrat pieces of trash.
AR -15 wrote:
You have been warned: The civil war begins when Hillary Clinton gets indicted.
The unhinged Left, of course, will immediately start rioting once Hillary Clinton gets indicted. Once the riots begin, I fully expect “kinetic engagement” (ie. violence) to begin. Note that I do not support such bloodshed, and I don’t condone it. The last thing I want to see is the blood of Americans spilled on the streets of America. Yet I fear this is exactly where things are headed for the simple reason that Leftists can no longer participate in a free society in any rational, lawful way. They are deranged, hate-filled lunatics who despise law and order and literally seek to murder their political enemies. The very idea that their own deep state treasonous swamp creatures might face the rule of law will drive Leftists to unhinged extremism, which is likely to include their bombing of government buildings, mass arson, chaos in the streets, the widespread targeting of police officers and the attempted murdering of conservatives and Trump supporters.
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Hi, Lying Gary! Nice to see your insanity on display. The nice thing about it is that it ALWAYS speaks directly to your own warped mind while trying to paint the Other with your own mental perversions. Exactly like Trump.
Way to go, Lying Gary!
Tsk. Tsk. Gary. Liberals come up with sensible ideas that benefit the majority of the people. Reality just happens to have a well-known liberal bias.
HelloHillaryLovers wrote:
Hello Hillary lovers. Still butt hurt?
The mueller investigation is a bust, so the whiny, shrieking democrats are suing.
That’s hilarious!!!!!
Meanwhile,Trump’s approval is above 50%.
Suck on that, you queer democrat pieces of trash.
What poll are you looking at?
Even Rasmussen now is at just 48%, and the RCP average is 41.6%:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.htmlFlagpole wrote:
I am only wrong if he skates on these bigger accusations.
It's going to be important to define what you mean by "skates on these bigger accusations"
1. President's powers may include the ability to pardon himself. Is that skating or not?
2. Imagine a Nixon scenario where Trump resigns during his term, and then Pence pardons. Did Trump skate?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
AR -15 wrote:
You have been warned: The civil war begins when Hillary Clinton gets indicted.
The unhinged Left, of course, will immediately start rioting once Hillary Clinton gets indicted. Once the riots begin, I fully expect “kinetic engagement” (ie. violence) to begin. Note that I do not support such bloodshed, and I don’t condone it. The last thing I want to see is the blood of Americans spilled on the streets of America. Yet I fear this is exactly where things are headed for the simple reason that Leftists can no longer participate in a free society in any rational, lawful way. They are deranged, hate-filled lunatics who despise law and order and literally seek to murder their political enemies. The very idea that their own deep state treasonous swamp creatures might face the rule of law will drive Leftists to unhinged extremism, which is likely to include their bombing of government buildings, mass arson, chaos in the streets, the widespread targeting of police officers and the attempted murdering of conservatives and Trump supporters.
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Oh yeah, almost forgot to say 'Hi'.
Hi, Lying Gary! Nice to see your insanity on display. The nice thing about it is that it ALWAYS speaks directly to your own warped mind while trying to paint the Other with your own mental perversions. Exactly like Trump.
Way to go, Lying Gary!
I'm not Gary.
The sad thing about reading through these posts, and watching the news, and reading social media, is the non-stop hate coming from the left. The only thing they care about is overthrowing a peacefully elected President. They care nothing -- absolutely NOTHING -- about the booming economy, terrorism, North Korea, etc. The only thing they care about is the downfall of the President. Nothing else. And. They. Never. Stop.
I didn't vote for Obama, but if he made my country better then I was fully supportive.
What a f***ed up time it is to be an American. As written above, a "kinetic engagement" is looking like a possibility.
Most people probably aren't aware (MSM sure as hell won't talk about this), but Kanye West has been on a twitter tear lately, bashing liberalism and their "group think" after suddenly realizing that the Left has been the ones keeping blacks "on the plantation." He's got 15 million followers, probably mostly black, who are paying attention to what he's saying. This is gonna be YUGE!
"new ideas will no longer be condemned by the masses. We are on the frontier of massive change. Starting from breaking out of our mental prisons"
"The thought police want to suppress freedom of thought. We have freedom of speech but not freedom of thought"
"be fearless. Express what you feel not what you've been programmed to think."
Go Kanye wrote:
Most people probably aren't aware (MSM sure as hell won't talk about this), but Kanye West has been on a twitter tear lately, bashing liberalism and their "group think" after suddenly realizing that the Left has been the ones keeping blacks "on the plantation." He's got 15 million followers, probably mostly black, who are paying attention to what he's saying. This is gonna be YUGE!
"new ideas will no longer be condemned by the masses. We are on the frontier of massive change. Starting from breaking out of our mental prisons"
"The thought police want to suppress freedom of thought. We have freedom of speech but not freedom of thought"
"be fearless. Express what you feel not what you've been programmed to think."
Tom Arnold via a tweet told a prominent black woman in conservative politics to "suck a racist d***" yesterday. He later deleted it, with no apology either. Classy.
Wiehle wrote:
The sad thing about reading through these posts, and watching the news, and reading social media, is the non-stop hate coming from the left. The only thing they care about is overthrowing a peacefully elected President. They care nothing -- absolutely NOTHING -- about the booming economy, terrorism, North Korea, etc. The only thing they care about is the downfall of the President. Nothing else. And. They. Never. Stop.
I didn't vote for Obama, but if he made my country better then I was fully supportive.
What a f***ed up time it is to be an American. As written above, a "kinetic engagement" is looking like a possibility.
Right. Name one thing Obama did that you were fully supportive of.
This guy has conveniently forgotten eight years of shameless Republican obstruction during the Obama administration. (The GOP leadership decided to oppose him at every turn for political gain before he even took office and in the midst of an economic collapse that their own party oversaw. ) He's forgotten that Republicans relentlessly investigated Benghaaazzzziii (turning up nothing repeatedly) after ignoring years of Bush Administration war crimes. He's forgotten that leading Republicans told us that if Clinton won, they would be investigating and attempting to impeach her from the moment she took office.
He's willfully ignoring that Trump is openly using the presidency to turn a profit (along with the rest of his cabinet), that he is likely susceptible to blackmail by a foreign adversary, that he clearly does not believe in the independence of the DOJ or the media, that he has done NOTHING to protect the integrity of our election systems after they were attacked by Russian hackers, and that he lies about virtually everything.
He doesn't care that Trump can't articulate a single coherent policy position (and when he tries, it's almost always through Twitter), that he's porks pornstars while his wife is pregnant, that he's a draft-dodger who routinely smears those who did serve, that he sh*ts on past presidents in front of the Boy Scouts, or that he continually sings the praises of authoritarian strongmen across the globe. All he wants is for Trump to start locking up his political rivals based on imaginary crimes. And if liberal scum get mad about that, well, he'll just have to take part in a little "kinetic engagement."
Go Kanye wrote:
Most people probably aren't aware (MSM sure as hell won't talk about this), but Kanye West has been on a twitter tear lately
Yeah the MSM doesn't want to cover REAL news like... Kanye West's twitter feed. JFC.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I am only wrong if he skates on these bigger accusations.
It's going to be important to define what you mean by "skates on these bigger accusations"
1. President's powers may include the ability to pardon himself. Is that skating or not?
2. Imagine a Nixon scenario where Trump resigns during his term, and then Pence pardons. Did Trump skate?
Ok...let me try to be as clear as I possibly can. I'm sure a Trumper or two will still try to declare victory even when the sh!t hits the fan, but I am trying to be as clear as I can.
1) IF conspiracy with Russia is proven either with Trump directly OR any of his campaign staff, then I was RIGHT about the 2016 election, for cheaters can not win, and I said that even before the election.
2) IF Trump resigns or is removed from office due (regardless of whether he is pardoned) to obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy of any kind (bank fraud, wire fraud, with Russians or any perhaps unknown reasons that Mueller finds), then I was right about Trump and his presidency.
We have to keep the main points in view here:
A) Trumpers have said this is all a hoax and that Trump is not guilty of anything and that all of this is a con on the American people to remove a President just because he is anti-establishment.
B) I have said that Trump is criminal and that he will pay (loss of office, loss of money, and/or loss of freedom) due to his criminality.
Given those two very different views, it should be clear who will be right. Psst...it will be me.
Wiehle wrote:
The sad thing about reading through these posts, and watching the news, and reading social media, is the non-stop hate coming from the left. The only thing they care about is overthrowing a peacefully elected President. They care nothing -- absolutely NOTHING -- about the booming economy, terrorism, North Korea, etc. The only thing they care about is the downfall of the President. Nothing else. And. They. Never. Stop.
I didn't vote for Obama, but if he made my country better then I was fully supportive.
What a f***ed up time it is to be an American. As written above, a "kinetic engagement" is looking like a possibility.
Your view is skewed and ridiculous.
If you marry a woman after several years of dating, and then on your honeymoon, she f*cks the Purser on the cruise ship, it is time to end the relationship...doesn't matter that the two of you had a loving agreement at one point.
The fact that Trump was elected has no bearing on the charges that he is likely going to face. He is a criminal. We don't look the other way simply because of there are some good things going on right now (was a booming economy at the end of Obama's second term too, and ISIS was being taken care of under his leadership by the way).
ANY president who is found to have broken major laws deserves to be removed from office if it is bad enough. So far Republicans win that with Nixon and Trump to follow.
YOU should care that your president has very likely conspired with Russia to affect our election.
Next time elect a Republican President who isn't a criminal.
Flagpole wrote:
Ok...let me try to be as clear as I possibly can. I'm sure a Trumper or two will still try to declare victory even when the sh!t hits the fan, but I am trying to be as clear as I can.
1) IF conspiracy with Russia is proven either with Trump directly OR any of his campaign staff, then I was RIGHT about the 2016 election, for cheaters can not win, and I said that even before the election.
2) IF Trump resigns or is removed from office due (regardless of whether he is pardoned) to obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy of any kind (bank fraud, wire fraud, with Russians or any perhaps unknown reasons that Mueller finds), then I was right about Trump and his presidency.
We have to keep the main points in view here:
A) Trumpers have said this is all a hoax and that Trump is not guilty of anything and that all of this is a con on the American people to remove a President just because he is anti-establishment.
B) I have said that Trump is criminal and that he will pay (loss of office, loss of money, and/or loss of freedom) due to his criminality.
Given those two very different views, it should be clear who will be right. Psst...it will be me.
You've omitted the most likely scenario: Trump is proven to be a criminal but will only be held accountable if Democrats manage to make significant gains in 2018. I still don't understand why you believe Republicans will be forced to vote him out rather than circle the wagons. There's really not much evidence that they possess the capacity for shame anymore. Whatever Mueller comes forward with, it will be cast as partisan, Deep State lies. They'll all play along.
Flagpole wrote:
1) IF conspiracy with Russia is proven either with Trump directly OR any of his campaign staff, then I was RIGHT about the 2016 election, for cheaters can not win, and I said that even before the election.
2) IF Trump resigns or is removed from office due (regardless of whether he is pardoned) to obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy of any kind (bank fraud, wire fraud, with Russians or any perhaps unknown reasons that Mueller finds), then I was right about Trump and his presidency.
I have reviewed this with the other board members. We are accepting 2 but not 1 since it expands your position after the fact in a way that is advantageous to you. In particular, we feel it broadens the scenario to which you could be considered "Right" and does not accurately reflect Premise B.
Premise B : "The clown is done."
This implies Donald Trump must be done, which implies he must be removed from office before the next inauguration date, or must remain in office only through egregious technicality. The board members feel like expanding this to include his campaign staff is unfair and potentially trivial since many of them have already had charges brought against them and since all major intelligence agencies agree that Russia interfered. Our conclusion therefore in regards to (1) is "Duh" and it is dismissed at this time.