Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

L L wrote:

Which crime will Trump go down on first?

Conspiracy with a foreign entity

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Emoluments clause

Perjury

Logan Act

I really have no idea. Will Mueller wait until he has all the charges at once? I could see the Logan Act dropping off. I honestly did not believe two months ago that he was going to go down for Conspiracy with Russia, but as I have recently said, that is going to happen now.

Sean Hannity is such a hypocrite.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/23/media/sean-hannity-real-estate-hud/index.html

Flagpole wrote:

Sean Hannity is such a hypocrite.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/23/media/sean-hannity-real-estate-hud/index.html

Sean Hannity buys foreclosures and flips them for profit and implements LLC's to do it. In other words, he is basically like every Real Estate show on TV. Shocking!!!

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Sean Hannity is such a hypocrite.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/23/media/sean-hannity-real-estate-hud/index.html

Sean Hannity buys foreclosures and flips them for profit and implements LLC's to do it. In other words, he is basically like every Real Estate show on TV. Shocking!!!

With the help of the government. He says liberals just want a handout and yet he uses government services to make himself rich (and we will see if he's been toeing the legal line or not).

So, I guess government services are fine if they benefit him.

Mueller is coming.

The clown (along with many of his associates) is done.

Flagpole wrote:

I really have no idea. Will Mueller wait until he has all the charges at once? I could see the Logan Act dropping off. I honestly did not believe two months ago that he was going to go down for Conspiracy with Russia, but as I have recently said, that is going to happen now.

I actually think the violation of the Logan Act as the main domino to take him down.

It looks like Trump sent Flynn to talk to the Russians about sanctions before he was inaugurated.

That is a violation of the Logan Act.

Then Flynn lied to the FBI about it and is facing charges for that.

And Trump had Flynn fired for lying to Pence about it.

Then Trump fired Comey for not pledging to leave Flynn alone.

Trump still has to be interviewed by Mueller. One question he will face is did he instruct Flynn to discuss sanctions relief with Russia prior to being president?

(we know he did that)

Trump has two choices there:

Lie to Mueller and be subject to perjury

Admit he violated the Logan Act and have that go on his record when the inevitable impeach trial comes.

The violation of the Logan Act could lead to charges of that violation plus obstruction of justice plus perjury.

The Michael Cohen investigation may turn up serious money laundering.

All this while conspiracy with Russia lies waiting with Flynn, Manafort and Gates trials.

And for Trump and his supporters who complain how long the witch is taking - Trump hasn't even been questioned by Mueller yet.

How can they end it before any questioning?

Flagpole wrote:

Mueller is coming...so is the DNC...so is the Southern District of NYC.

The clown is done.

The original conditions of winning bragging rights of declaring he/she was first in declaring you utterly wrong/magnificently correct only required Mueller to come. Are you saying you'd like to levy additional requirements?

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Mueller is coming...so is the DNC...so is the Southern District of NYC.

The clown is done.

The original conditions of winning bragging rights of declaring he/she was first in declaring you utterly wrong/magnificently correct only required Mueller to come. Are you saying you'd like to levy additional requirements?

Mueller is still coming, and he will continue to even if another thing takes Trump down first. These things are mostly related.

The idea from those who defend Trump is that there is no "there" there and so this whole Russia thing is a hoax and that Trump is innocent and will be proven innocent. Whether I am right or not doesn't mean it has to be Mueller that takes him down.

I will provide this caveat -- if it is ONLY the coverup of Trump paying women after he slept with them to keep them quiet, then I will say I was wrong. The charges have to be along the lines of obstruction of justice, money laundering, and/or conspiracy (to commit fraud of some kind...bank, wire, or with Russians to help him win the election).

Now, IF the adulterer stuff takes him down first, but he is STILL ultimately charged with those other things, then I am still right. I am only wrong if he skates on these bigger accusations.

Basically we just go with really what is intended here:

I say Trump will be taken down because he is a criminal...obstruction of justice, money laundering, conspiracy (many flavors) are the big ones, and I am saying he WILL be taken down on at least one of those.

The Trump supporters say that this is just politics and that there is no collusion (conspiracy) and that their man Trump is innocent.

I am right and I will be proven right.

Flagpole wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Sean Hannity buys foreclosures and flips them for profit and implements LLC's to do it. In other words, he is basically like every Real Estate show on TV. Shocking!!!

With the help of the government. He says liberals just want a handout and yet he uses government services to make himself rich (and we will see if he's been toeing the legal line or not).

So, I guess government services are fine if they benefit him.

Mueller is coming.

The clown (along with many of his associates) is done.

Hannity is not like every Real Estate person. He is obfuscating ownership through multiple layers of offshore shell companies. There is only one reason to play a game like that; to cheat on taxes. Trump and Cohen taught him well. There is likely to be some money laundering going on on Hannity's part.

Sean's shells wrote:

Hannity is not like every Real Estate person. He is obfuscating ownership through multiple layers of offshore shell companies. There is only one reason to play a game like that; to cheat on taxes. Trump and Cohen taught him well. There is likely to be some money laundering going on on Hannity's part.

It wasn't really news in the U.S. but, there was a trove of documents reported on under the subject of "Paradise Papers." Basically, a bunch of people from countries with higher tax rates moved money to the Caribbean inside shell companies. One of the comments made was that the reason there were almost no Americans is America has an even more lax corporate shell company environment with a very low effective tax rate.

This looks to go back years, so, unless something changed dramatically with the election of Trump, this is what people with a whole lot of money do in the U.S. A real estate flipping business through shells is perfectly legal, assuming the shells were operated within American law. Sure, the shells are probably optimized tax havens, but, again, that's normal tax welfare for the rich.

The later two sentences of the comment have to do with recent events. Hannity has been in the shell game a long time. The layers of shell companies seems to have increased for Hannity in the last few years. I think that is related to working with Trump and then with Cohen. Do not be surprised to learn, if the Cohen investigation decides to release that information, that Hannitiy's RE flip investors are Russian foreign nationals, and the flip deals are much better than the average for Hannity.

Karamazov wrote:

If the Russians have Trump under their thumb (which they do)

And if they cultivated this arrangement for decades (which they have)

And if it was really not possible to predict Trump's political rise decades ago when the Russians first got him under their thumbs (which it wasn't)

Then the obvious conclusion is that the Russians must have cultivated similar arrangements with other prominent Americans (prominent in the sense of being rich and famous - not in the sense of being a worthwhile human being) over the past few decades. There must be dozens if not hundreds of such folks at least partially under Russian control.

Yes. This is normal though. America does it too. Nations do it to further their political/economic goals.

One of the things that backfired about the Nunes memo is, it showed that two people plucked from obscurity ended up on Trump's campaign after trips to Russia. You have Flynn with ties to Russia, Tillerson with prior Russian relationships, who knows what Manafort's relationships end up being, Trump with what will likely be shown to be money laundering ties to all kinds of plutocrats, and then the two former Trump campaign workers. Sloppy!

The problem here is Trump has a child's reasoning capacity. He cannot appropriately obscure his favoritism , unlike so many other politicians who do it right.

For the record though, you've been wrong for over 2 full years now, so surely you can understand why most think you're a joke around here, right?

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

The problem here is Trump has a child's reasoning capacity. He cannot appropriately obscure his favoritism , unlike so many other politicians who do it right.

The Syria bombing was a nothingburger. Five whole minutes is all that WWIII lasted. The bombing appeared to be agreed targets between Trump and Putin. In exchange for Putin letting Trump "win" against Syria, Trump agreed to not impose any new Russian sanctions. And that is how it went down.

Luckily we had the brilliant Hillary and Obama mocking Mitt Romney when he said that Russia was the #1 geopolitical threat to the US.

Sean's shells wrote:

The later two sentences of the comment have to do with recent events. Hannity has been in the shell game a long time. The layers of shell companies seems to have increased for Hannity in the last few years. I think that is related to working with Trump and then with Cohen. Do not be surprised to learn, if the Cohen investigation decides to release that information, that Hannitiy's RE flip investors are Russian foreign nationals, and the flip deals are much better than the average for Hannity.

Maybe, but, again we get into what is a violation of law with meaningful consequences. We have to wait to see what happens.

I think the bigger point is Hannity has shown himself to be nothing more than a propaganda vehicle and Fox News nothing more than a personal propaganda outlet. I know this is no surprise to many, but, there's at least public evidence of it now.

This is the consequence of Reagan's media deregulation. The right answer here is to revise media regulation to better separate reporting from propaganda.

Remember when wrote:

Luckily we had the brilliant Hillary and Obama mocking Mitt Romney when he said that Russia was the #1 geopolitical threat to the US.

And you have Trump openly supporting Putin. What is your point?

This is how any reasonable person would interpret the lawsuit against..... well, EVERYONE I guess. HAHA

https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/democrats-are-getting-desperate-as-mueller-stalls/

Don't sue me bro wrote:

This is how any reasonable person would interpret the lawsuit against..... well, EVERYONE I guess. HAHA

nypost. com/2018/04/21/democrats-are-getting-desperate-as-mueller-stalls/

The Post is Trump's preferred newspaper. Owned by Trump supporter Rupurt Murdock.

"The Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch's ownership for sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review stated. 'New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem – a force for evil.' " — Columbia Journalism Review, volume 18, number 5 (Jan/Feb 1980).

L L wrote:

Which crime will Trump go down on first?

Conspiracy with a foreign entity

Obstruction of justice

Money laundering

Emoluments clause

Perjury

Logan Act

You need a willing Congress to get any of this done and Republicans still control both chambers of Congress.

A question for the lawyers: Where would the prosecuting attorney come from? In what ways could Trump shut down prosecution. Obviously, it would be a Constitutional crisis for the U.S., but what's possible?