Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Yes. Do it. And when this comes to pass, Flagpole's new handle becomes either Clownpole or Wrongpole.

This is all Trumpers have left. Can't make a coherent argument in defense of Trump and his associates.

Think about it... you continue to support a traitor. I'm guessing in 10 years you'll be telling people you were a Never Trumper.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Really? You must be kidding. You can't possibly believe that. Absolutely everything we've seen so far shows us that there's nothing there, and that it's all about getting rid of Trump at all costs.

One thing about the new lawsuit from the DNC is that it shows just how much "there" is "there". It's a compendium of evidence we know publicly about meddling in the election and the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia.

If you really think there's nothing there, I suggest you read the document and try to refute the allegations therein.

If you are honest with yourself, you will see that there is such a mountain of evidence that it can not be explained by "Deep State" conspiracy theories.

Look at one of the headings:

"Defendents' repeated efforts to cover up contacts with Russians evidence of their consciousness of guilt"

That doesn't sound like legalese to me. This is what liberal insanity looks like when you wrap it up in a conspiracy package.

Flagpole wrote:

What a fun day.

Reading through the charges a bit more:

1) Computer Fraud and Abuse Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.

2) RICO against ALL defendants. Says Trump Campaign was the Racketeering Enterprise.

3) RICO Conspiracy against ALL defendants.

4) Violation of Wiretap Act against GRU Operative #1, WikiLeaks, The Trump Campaign, Trump Associates, Assange.

5) Violation of Stored Communications Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.

6) Violation of Digital Millennium Copyright Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.

7) Violation of Misappropriation of Trade Secrets under the Defend Trade Secrets Act against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1, WikiLeaks, Assange.

8) Violation of Washington DC Uniform Trade Secret Act against ALL defendants.

9) Trespass against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.

10) Trespass to Chattels against Russia, The GRU, GRU Operative #1.

11) Conspiracy to Commit Trespass to Chattels against ALL defendants.

12) Violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act against ALL defendants.

Oh man this is bad.

He is bad for sure--a charlatan and a con artist. But I am unsure where the optimism comes from that we are going to get any justice here. First off, while we focus on investigation the kleptocrats are dismantling the federal government on behalf of the private sector. That damage will not be reversed easily. And what makes you think anyone prominent will face charges here? I can recall like yesterday the moment Ed Meese wobbled out to admit the first details of the Iran-Contra affair. That day in 1987 it was easy to imagine impeachment against Reagan and his staff for something that made Watergate look minor. Nothing serious came of it and today even liberals like Clinton and Chuck Schumer seem to think Reagan was a great man (give me a vomit bag). We have never prosecuted major political and financial crime in this country. Henry Kissinger got a fcking Noble Peace Prize for scuttling Johnson's 1968 peace talks. It will be a generation before middle class folks are uncomfortable enough to really demand justice for such matters. Mueller is a good man doing a good job, but it's essentially a burlesque, just as the idea that Nixon would ever go to jail was a burlesque.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Yes. Do it. And when this comes to pass, Flagpole's new handle becomes either Clownpole or Wrongpole.

Congratulations! You've been registered as FIRST in the event Flagpole is wrong with added request that Flagpole be forced to change his handle to Clownpole or Wrongpole.

Disco,

Instead of worrying about the merits of the DNC suit, how about reading the 66 page federal indictment today by the SDNY office.

DiscoGary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

One thing about the new lawsuit from the DNC is that it shows just how much "there" is "there". It's a compendium of evidence we know publicly about meddling in the election and the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia.

If you really think there's nothing there, I suggest you read the document and try to refute the allegations therein.

If you are honest with yourself, you will see that there is such a mountain of evidence that it can not be explained by "Deep State" conspiracy theories.

Look at one of the headings:

"Defendents' repeated efforts to cover up contacts with Russians evidence of their consciousness of guilt"

That doesn't sound like legalese to me. This is what liberal insanity looks like when you wrap it up in a conspiracy package.

Perhaps you'd like to officially enter the competition as to whether or not Flagpole will be right or wrong? Rigged For Hillary has already secured his spot as FIRST but I can give you SECOND.

I should figure out how to securitize these positions as well so I can start taking bets on them and issuing payouts.

Comey family are hillary lovers!!!!!

That is hilarious!!!!

Hillary voters are really gross looking!!!!!

Racket wrote:

I should figure out how to securitize these positions as well so I can start taking bets on them and issuing payouts.

Racket,

I have another request, this is limited to registered handles ONLY.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Racket wrote:

I should figure out how to securitize these positions as well so I can start taking bets on them and issuing payouts.

Racket,

I have another request, this is limited to registered handles ONLY.

Agreed.

Submissions will only be accepted by registered handles.

While I think Trump DESERVES to go to jail, I am not predicting that (though I think it's possible). Too many ways he can avoid it...pardon for any federal crimes by Pence, some sort of plea bargain, etc. BUT, he will be charged, and it will end his presidency.

Conspiracy with a foreign enemy power is a serious thing. This is bigger than anything our nation has seen before.

Reagan used "plausible deniability" for his defense. Trump will NOT be able to do that, and the allegations here are much worse and a much greater threat to our national security and way of life.

Nixon was pardoned by Ford, but Trump is going to likely have charges that are outside the Federal realm.

Again though, while Trump definitely deserves a lengthy prison term for what will come out against him, I will be satisfied with just him being out of office. A prison term is really justified though...we should make it clear that this can never happen again.

Racket wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Racket,

I have another request, this is limited to registered handles ONLY.

Agreed.

Submissions will only be accepted by registered handles.

Donate my winnings to the ACLU.

Racket wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Racket,

I have another request, this is limited to registered handles ONLY.

Agreed.

Submissions will only be accepted by registered handles.

Interesting...so Rigged for Hillary knows what it is to have rules in place. THAT is a good sign, brother! Now, you just need to get to the point that you believe that everyone, even if they are your political office holder, needs to follow the rules.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Racket wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Yes. Do it. And when this comes to pass, Flagpole's new handle becomes either Clownpole or Wrongpole.

Congratulations! You've been registered as FIRST in the event Flagpole is wrong with added request that Flagpole be forced to change his handle to Clownpole or Wrongpole.

Well, I won't change my handle, and I won't ask anyone else to change theirs. So, this part is not agreed upon.

Besides, whoever is wrong (it will NOT be me) should have to continue to use the handle that made them so wrong.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Racket wrote:

Agreed.

Submissions will only be accepted by registered handles.

https://www.tedbets.com/

Donate my winnings to the ACLU.

Count me out of any betting (the main reason I don't agree to change my handle if I lose; which I won't).

I do not bet based on moral grounds.

Also, I have no need for any pittance I might get as a result of a bet, so it is neither a positive for me if I win nor a punishment if I lose.

I'll lay out some facts and let you make the connections:

Russia hacked the DNC servers (Podesta falls for a phishing email)

Putin dislikes HRC

HRC would have been a threat to Putin, Trump is not

Comey opens an investigation into HRC emails and takes forever to reach a conclusion

Comey delivered the presidency to trump by waiting to look at Weiner's emails the weekend before the election

Trump is full of adulation for Putin and has sought numerous times to meet him and do a real estate deal in Russia

Trump has done deals with and stayed close to many Russian mafiosos and Republicans whose elections were funded by Russian mafiosos

When Comey told Trump the dossier had been going around, Trump freaked out and demanded loyalty even though Comey assured him the dossier had not been a cause for concern since the claims were unsubstantiated

Mueller is a Republican

Trump's administration appointed Mueller

A Trump-appointed lawyer approved the Cohen raid

Flagpole wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

https://www.tedbets.com/

Donate my winnings to the ACLU.

Count me out of any betting (the main reason I don't agree to change my handle if I lose; which I won't).

I do not bet based on moral grounds.

Also, I have no need for any pittance I might get as a result of a bet, so it is neither a positive for me if I win nor a punishment if I lose.

I can securitize those bets into bonds and then you can invest your 401k in them! If you're right then it pays out small, but I'll oversell credit default swaps to everyone who thinks your wrong (at huge premiums of course, which would benefit your 401k). If you're actually wrong then I'll probably face a massive liquidity crisis so I'll complain to Rojo and Wejo and get them to charge all LRC registered users to bail me out.

DiscoGary wrote:

Look at one of the headings:

"Defendents' repeated efforts to cover up contacts with Russians evidence of their consciousness of guilt"

That doesn't sound like legalese to me. This is what liberal insanity looks like when you wrap it up in a conspiracy package.

Really? Are you a lawyer?

And you disregard the entire document just because you don't like one of the headings.

Hey everybody!!!! The Russia collusion thing is a complete hoax. I know it for sure because Gary doesn't like one of the headings!!!

You make good points. However, on the matter of conspiracy with a foreign power, I would argue that what Russia and Trump are alleged to have done pales in comparison to what Nixon and Kissinger pulled off in 1968. They conspired with a foreign regime during a military conflict against the actions of the Chief Executive , extending the Vietnam War by seven years leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths on both sides. No serious historian denies that this is what happened, and it was recently revealed that Lyndon Johnson himself knew about it at the time (He was silent because to have confronted the Republicans on the eve of the Nixon vs. McCarthy election would have revealed U.S. intelligence assets and been perceived as vote-meddling). So, yes, I am horrified by what happened during our last election and it should be investigated. But it is important to understand that the United States has faced treason and perfidy in the past and it was thought better to elide the truth for what passes as "the greater good". What is this "greater good"? It passes as looking out for the lives of American citizens, their well-being, their material comfort, and even the integrity of federal government. In reality it is mere the balancing act of plausibility that keeps elites of both the right and left with a vice grip on power.