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Garrett,

I wonder if you could work the angle that Dr. M uses the same procedure for SH as for small inguinal hernias. She said the difference between the two is the tear. Could this potentially tear? Maybe say you are doing some pre-emptive surgery and oh by the way FIXING MY DAILY *$&%@ing PAIN???

Have you tried calling the worldwide group? Since Dr. M is a preferred provider maybe they can give you some helpful information.

I also have BCBS, but I have a PPO. Because UM is on the list of preferred providers that shouldn't make a difference unless with an HMO, are you required to get a referral in order to see a specialist such as UM. With a PPO, I wasn't required to do so.

As for claim submission, I notified the Mondial rep and forwarded him copies of UM's diagnosis, the hospital bill and proof of payment. I also mailed the above information to the BCBS claims department for processing in addition to some required forms you can find on the BCBS site.

I'm putting in a call today to check the status. More info to come.

Mello,

What did Dr. M's diagnosis say?

Denpr9 - I had surgery one week ago and I also feel a big "mound" as you said around the incision area. Alot of people have described a bulging sensation post surgery so I don't think it is anything to worry about. I am also still numb all around the incision area.

Did you have an adductor release? I have much more than an adducotr "sensation" - it is more like pain and incredible tightness - but I had the adductor release. Hope this helps.

For everyone fighting w/ insurance who hda the surgery w/ Meyers - they just sent me tons of medical journal documents and such along w/ a leter from the doc explaining why this is a necessity. they also sent a smaple appeal letter which is incredilby helpful. Just call Marcia and ask her for the info. Tiff

Albert/Dennis,

Thanks for the response, guys. Sorry to hear about the MCL, Albert. FMS sounds interesting. I think my PT is taking a class on that. Dennis, I definitely plan to follow your advice. I am taking it very easy -- trying to get my adductors to relax w/ massage, but i sometimes wonder if I should be doing more (stretching/yoga) My abs can't handle much, however.

As for your conditions...i have the same. mound-like wounds with tightness and even soreness over the incision areas. I am only massaging around the groin muscles (up to the leg crease, but not closer than 2-3 inches from the cut site) for fear that I could disturb the healing process of the cuts. massaging might be helping, but i still feel pretty tight. i also started stretching my calves and hamstrings to help keep other things loose.

That's it for now.

hi there;

I was wondering if there are any people here from Canada? I have been wanting to go to either Dr M or Meyer for two years now, but i am a graduate student and my life's savings would even cover half the surgery, I was wondering if there is any way we can get our Canadian OHIP plan to pay for surgeries with either Meyer or Dr M?

Paying almost 40K out of my pocket for surgery with Dr M is not even an option here, and in the meantime my 2 year AP is getting worse by the day and doctors here have no clue as to what is SH;

thank you I appreciate any information anyone could give me

H

Tiff,

It is all very normal... I was concerned too about the mound on the incision. Mine has slowly started to disappear. It will take several weeks, but mine was very evident in the first three weeks.

The mound is absolutely normal and it will reabsorb inot the pubic area until it is flat again. I still get a little swelling after a long day. As far as numbness....I am 9 weeks today and still numb on the incision....Not as numb as before but it still feels funny. He said this will be 3 or so months. Also the adductor pain is rough the first couple weeks, especially left to right...and when you forget. AS soon as possible the pool will make them feel good because the pressure is even as opposed to cable machine.

My AP feels great. I just seem to have opposite side weakness that tightens up after a long walk. It starts in tha quad...TFL and gluteus minimus...

I am seeing my kineseologist saturday and he can shed some light.

haach,

Did Dr. M quote you 40k? My quote was 4600 euro one side or 8800 euro f/ both sides.

Tiff,

Thanks for responding. Good to get some reassurance about what I/we are feeling. I did have a right side release and partial on the left. Very tight and heavy feeling(right side) from just below the incision down through the adductors, a bit into the hip. Working on flexibility now. Very slow light range of motion therapy- went well. Based on your abdominal ('rolled up' a bit I think you mentioned earlier on this thread?) repair you will have to go slow and be patient...

Kent,

Would avoid yoga for now. I used Bikram yoga last summer(hot Yoga- very demanding) and it would be great for maintainence when you get healthy. Yoga is very demanding posturally, so I would think that any weakness might cause other groups to do work they are not accustomed to- then imbalances. In my mind part of the key to rehab is to work toward symmetry between the two sides. The stretcing of calfs and hammys will stave off some atrophy and benefit you down the road when you get back on the run. So your adductors are really tight too? Keep me posted... I enjoy beeing able to exchange info with people...

As for Canadian insurance, it kinda sucks that you can't go and do what you want. Keep investigating and if the condition is AP and will not subside, the quality of life is the issue. If it were me I would go into debt to risk possibly getting healthy. Credit can be effected, but that is temp. and a small price to pay for moving well and having good health.

ARenko wrote:

Mello,

What did Dr. M's diagnosis say?

District protrusion of posterior abdominal wall (2cm x 2cm) was the diagnosis.

Contacted BCBS today and my claim for reimbursement for my hospital stay has been processed and will pay out this week. My surgical claim (what I really care about) is still being processed but in my mind it doesn't seem rational to approve a hospital stay and not the cause for the hospital stay. Just me trying to think logically and you know how that goes ;)

@Tiff

Hi Tiff, no Meyer would be the one that charges 40K, Dr M charges around 6K CAD$ , so im guessing the choice of which doctor is already made for me :)

@denpr9

I agree with you 100% , I am an SH suffer for two years and last year i did bikram yoga and it completely F*ed me up, i have been doing yoga since i was 15 and its one of my passions in life, so since that day i decided to just stick to gentle Hatha yoga which actually does help me alot, but some of the hip opening postures really hurt me but i removed them from my routine,

And i know what you mean by quality of life, i used to be out running and doing sports all the time and now im sitting home and my friends are out playing volleyball and enjoying the summer, i guess i have to go into debt, but that would still be fine if i knew it was going to surely help, imagine if i go to debt and get the surgery and after 2 months realize that im back to square 1? Its a big chance to take and in Canada im seeing a hip specialist who discouraged me from going, and basically called the people who do this surgery opportunists who make money and all they do is just cut people's nerves, i don't agree with him but thats enough to make you hesitate, and also the testimony of people who have not gotten better after surgery , what do you think? im am pretty confused :(

thank you;

H

Actually the surgery from Meyers was 33K and was paid at 9K by anthem BC/BS. MRI was $2,200 and anesthesiologist was $2,000.

They always settle down that figure. I believe the totalfor Meyers from self-pay is between 10k-14K. They also have payment plans.

haach,

Have you considered seeing Dr. Brown in Montreal? He's done over 110 NHL'ers successfully, and the cost is extremely cheap, you'll be out less than $5k Cdn. The surgery didn't work 100% for me, but Dr. UM's didn't either. I looked at the surgery reports the other day and it was interesting to see they both had the same diagnosis. If you don't want mesh, ask him if he'll do without it. He did my procedures without mesh.

It's better than waiting, the longer you wait, the harder is is to recover.

haach,

I feel you. After I hurt myself playing soccer, the only thing I could still do was yoga. But once the injury got worse, I couldn't even do that very well. I'm about 8 weeks after surgery and I can tell you that I'm much better... still a lot of work to do yet though.

Mello,

Did you get the procedure pre-approved or just submit everything afterwards? If pre-approved, did Dr. M's office give you anything to work with?

frengers...drop me an email and we can compare notes. I have not yet started the deep tissue massage. I am only doing gentle stretching exercises and some walking.

Monchi,

rahenry42@yahoo.com

@albert

ok that is more reasonable than the 40K , and i am leaning more towards Meyer, i think his model of the muscle imbalances of the hip is much closer to what i think i have rather than Dr M's simpler explanation, (but then again i don't really know much about this injury, its just a hunch i have)

How much do you think would cost me to just go and have an MRI with him and get a consultation?

@rem

I have read alot of posts on this forum and i didnt form a very positive impression of Dr Brown's procedure, many people seem to think mesh is bad, and if Dr UM is only 7K and Brown only 5K i rather pay the 2K difference and go with a safer option, this way i get to go see Munich and have some of that world famous beer :)

But i dont mind going to see Brown for a consultation, I live not far from MTL, do you have a contact number for him I could use?

@Den

glad you are recovering fine :) good luck and hope you can get back into Bikram yoga soon; Oh how i miss it....

thank you all for your help

H