Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years). Ok, it was a new thread and not this one, but sheesh. Reality shouldn't provoke such rage. Or perhaps it is people upset that they've been lied to for two years AND they believed those lies. No one likes to admit they've been fooled. But when even CNN admits it ain't going well for Ukraine...
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years). Ok, it was a new thread and not this one, but sheesh. Reality shouldn't provoke such rage. Or perhaps it is people upset that they've been lied to for two years AND they believed those lies. No one likes to admit they've been fooled. But when even CNN admits it ain't going well for Ukraine...
Well they're idiots who have been looking at the war emotionally rather than logically.
Reality hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Ukraine cannot win alone and resistance serves no purpose other than killing innocent boys forced into war by their governments and making weapons dealers and politicians rich.
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WinstonSmith wrote:
Well they're idiots who have been looking at the war emotionally rather than logically.
Reality hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Ukraine cannot win alone and resistance serves no purpose other than killing innocent boys forced into war by their governments and making weapons dealers and politicians rich.
Freedom is at stake and people who love their country will do anything to protect. Something a peon like you with no spine would never understand
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years). Ok, it was a new thread and not this one, but sheesh. Reality shouldn't provoke such rage. Or perhaps it is people upset that they've been lied to for two years AND they believed those lies. No one likes to admit they've been fooled. But when even CNN admits it ain't going well for Ukraine...
Hey Kobbs. Stick to running.
Kharkiv has been under attack for the past year. One more series of attacks on one city is not the end of the war. No one has been lied to except those who believe Pootin's BS. Ukraine may be losing battles but they are bombing the crap out of ruZZia's military stations and refineries and will NOT lose the war. Mark my words. If anything there will be WWIII because arsehole countries like ruZZia can't stop killing and just stay in their own country.
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years).
Agreed. Some posters have been claiming that Russian victory has been imminent for over two years…
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
The war took a significant turn for the worse when the supply of western weaponry to Ukraine was largely cut off.
Uh not sure where you're getting your news from but the West (including most EU countries and US) continues to provide military aide and supplies to Ukraine and will be until Pootin and his ruZZian terrorist army are defeated. And they will be - even if it becomes world war. No one succumbs to terrorists or negotiates with them.
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NYpizza wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
Well they're idiots who have been looking at the war emotionally rather than logically.
Reality hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Ukraine cannot win alone and resistance serves no purpose other than killing innocent boys forced into war by their governments and making weapons dealers and politicians rich.
Freedom is at stake and people who love their country will do anything to protect. Something a peon like you with no spine would never understand
I'm a combat veteran thanks. While you run around pretending to be brave and willing to fight I actually did it.
If we were both in Ukraine in February 2022 I would be fighting for Ukraine and you would have left the country.
1. Demanding other people fight a war that cannot be won is immoral.
2. The life of the average Ukrainian in 2013 before the coup was indistinguishable from the life of the average Ukrainian in 2015 under "democracy".
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WinstonSmith wrote:
1. Demanding other people fight a war that cannot be won is immoral.
Who is doing that?
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NYpizza wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
Well they're idiots who have been looking at the war emotionally rather than logically.
Reality hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Ukraine cannot win alone and resistance serves no purpose other than killing innocent boys forced into war by their governments and making weapons dealers and politicians rich.
Freedom is at stake and people who love their country will do anything to protect. Something a peon like you with no spine would never understand
Logically, Ukraine could very well be winning the war but for obstruction of military aid by right wing Putin puppets in the US. Russia has spent the last six months stocking up and preparing for a northern offensive while Ukraine has seen their stockpiles of weapons get depleted to the point where Russia has been able to attack energy infrastructure that had previously been defended and make advances on the battlefield that would have previously been very costly. Russian forces were worn down from defending against Ukraine's summer counter offensive and from taking (i.e. completely destroying) Avdiivka. If UA had timely military aid from the US back in August, it would be well prepared for the current Russian offensive and could have even pressed some advantages in the south around the Dnipro. But instead, UA forces have had to go into defensive positions and are losing ground simply due to the fact that Russia has ten shells for every Ukrainian shell and is launching glide bombs from RU territory with impunity because UA air defenses cannot reach RU's bombers.
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Same story different year wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
1. Demanding other people fight a war that cannot be won is immoral.
Who is doing that?
Everyone that encourages Ukraine to fight is doing this.
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WinstonSmith wrote:
Same story different year wrote:
Who is doing that?
Everyone that encourages Ukraine to fight is doing this.
“Demand” != “encourage”
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Precious Roy wrote:
NYpizza wrote:
Freedom is at stake and people who love their country will do anything to protect. Something a peon like you with no spine would never understand
Logically, Ukraine could very well be winning the war but for obstruction of military aid by right wing Putin puppets in the US. Russia has spent the last six months stocking up and preparing for a northern offensive while Ukraine has seen their stockpiles of weapons get depleted to the point where Russia has been able to attack energy infrastructure that had previously been defended and make advances on the battlefield that would have previously been very costly. Russian forces were worn down from defending against Ukraine's summer counter offensive and from taking (i.e. completely destroying) Avdiivka. If UA had timely military aid from the US back in August, it would be well prepared for the current Russian offensive and could have even pressed some advantages in the south around the Dnipro. But instead, UA forces have had to go into defensive positions and are losing ground simply due to the fact that Russia has ten shells for every Ukrainian shell and is launching glide bombs from RU territory with impunity because UA air defenses cannot reach RU's bombers.
No.
You don't win a war of attrition with your checkbook.
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NYpizza wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
Well they're idiots who have been looking at the war emotionally rather than logically.
Reality hasn't changed in the last 2 years. Ukraine cannot win alone and resistance serves no purpose other than killing innocent boys forced into war by their governments and making weapons dealers and politicians rich.
Freedom is at stake and people who love their country will do anything to protect. Something a peon like you with no spine would never understand
This is not about freedom. This is about sacrificing Ukraine in an attempt to weaken Russia. And it accomplished nothing but lots of death -- which the neocons behind this are just fine with
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same story different year wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
Everyone that encourages Ukraine to fight is doing this.
“Demand” != “encourage”
What's the difference?
Would you tell your 6 year old to fight a 12 year old that was bullying him?
Do you think your 6 year old getting the sh*t beat out of him serves any purpose?
If you have no hope of winning the fight it is STUPID to fight.
When the fight involves hundreds of THOUSANDS of people dying it is immoral to "encourage" the fighting.
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WinstonSmith wrote:
same story different year wrote:
“Demand” != “encourage”
What's the difference?
For someone who perpetually claims to be smart, this is extra embarrassing.
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same story different year wrote:
Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years).
Agreed. Some posters have been claiming that Russian victory has been imminent for over two years…
Some posters have been thinking Ukraine will win the war and the Russians are incompetent. And still cling to such nonsense as even the MSM is reporting the end is near for Ukraine.
Meanwhile Blinken plays a bad version of Rocking in the Free World in his best imitation of Nero fiddling while Rome burns
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same story different year wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
What's the difference?
For someone who perpetually claims to be smart, this is extra embarrassing.
Not nearly as embarrassing as people who think virtue signaling other people to their deaths makes them good people.
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Such savage hostility from other commenters about news that Ukraine is indeed losing the war (as a few of us have been saying for over two years). Ok, it was a new thread and not this one, but sheesh. Reality shouldn't provoke such rage.
The end is near for this war and that's a good thing. A neocon proxy war designed to weaken Russia while spilling Ukrainian and Russian blood. Brought to you by the same people funding the genocide in Gaza
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WinstonSmith wrote:
same story different year wrote:
For someone who perpetually claims to be smart, this is extra embarrassing.
Not nearly as embarrassing as people who think virtue signaling other people to their deaths makes them good people.
Cool story Mr. Smart.
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same story different year wrote:
WinstonSmith wrote:
Not nearly as embarrassing as people who think virtue signaling other people to their deaths makes them good people.
Cool story Mr. Smart.
Yes you're a great person.
All of the young men being butchered really appreciate your mindless support.
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