Fat hurts wrote:
Can someone fill me in on the Deep State?
Is a formal organization or just a loose collection of like-minded people?
Formal organization. Even got a super secret handshake.
And if you weren't such a lib turd cvck homo who hates America then you would know these sorts of things.
Fat hurts wrote:
Can someone fill me in on the Deep State?
Is a formal organization or just a loose collection of like-minded people?
You do realize that equal percentages of republicans and Democrats believe the deep state exists right (like 70% each)?
Reasonable Republican wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Can someone fill me in on the Deep State?
Is a formal organization or just a loose collection of like-minded people?
You do realize that equal percentages of republicans and Democrats believe the deep state exists right (like 70% each)?
I means like 70% of the 15% of white males who are solid racists.
Trump's attorney, Cohen, has been outed as a member of the DEEP STATE!!! Good riddance. Trump doesn't need him anyway.
DEEP STATE!!!
Reasonable Republican wrote:
Reasonable Republican wrote:
You do realize that equal percentages of republicans and Democrats believe the deep state exists right (like 70% each)?
I means like 70% of the 15% of white males who are solid racists.
Trump's attorney, Cohen, has been outed as a member of the DEEP STATE!!! Good riddance. Trump doesn't need him anyway.
So “Fake News” that’s your response? I’m just going on with what the data from Vox (centre left publication) is telling me. If you have any counter evidence I’d be happy to see it.
Reasonable Republican wrote:
Reasonable Republican wrote:
I means like 70% of the 15% of white males who are solid racists.
Trump's attorney, Cohen, has been outed as a member of the DEEP STATE!!! Good riddance. Trump doesn't need him anyway.
So “Fake News” that’s your response? I’m just going on with what the data from Vox (centre left publication) is telling me. If you have any counter evidence I’d be happy to see it.
For the record. My sources are Breitbart and Fox News.
My Attorney Got Arrested! wrote:
You're smoking some good ish.
Make America Great Again wrote:
You are way to naive if you believe those investigations are unrelated. It's all part of a big scheme by the Deep State to take down the people's president. The establishment would resort to any measure to protect their privilege from the forgotten men and women of America.
Untreated paranoid schizophrenia.
Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?
Trollminator wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
It gets even dicier because Rosenstien's replacement would need to be confirmed by the Senate.
Fox News is certainly campaigning to get Rosenstien fired or recused. And Trump often follows their lead (and vice versa).
But if Trump can't get someone confirmed then it doesn't help him that much. And it might hurt A LOT. It's a very risky move politically.
On the other hand, what other cards can he play?
It pains me to think with all the real intelligence and news at his fingertips, he is too lazy to read documents or speak to experts and instead tunes to FOX news to figure out what’s going on in the world and get ideas for the next monring’s tweets.
I agree but I would change “It pains me”....” to “It terrifies me”. Have you ever watched fox & friends? Horrible show. Steve Doocey and the brown-haired guy who is not Steve Doocey are devoid of any intelligence and rationale thought.
That’s not the right word... wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
It pains me to think with all the real intelligence and news at his fingertips, he is too lazy to read documents or speak to experts and instead tunes to FOX news to figure out what’s going on in the world and get ideas for the next monring’s tweets.
I agree but I would change “It pains me”....” to “It terrifies me”. Have you ever watched fox & friends? Horrible show. Steve Doocey and the brown-haired guy who is not Steve Doocey are devoid of any intelligence and rationale thought.
Trump is a 10-year old who thinks he's teaching a 1st grade classroom. If you don't suck up to him, he'll ignore you and say bad things about you. There are no consequences because mommy isn't around, so he will kick and scream when all the little kids get out of order. Some kids are big brown-nosers though, and they even attack the other kids. Trump likes those kids, so he hires them and watch their shows. I dare anyone to argue this isn't true.
Trollminator wrote:
That’s not the right word... wrote:
I agree but I would change “It pains me”....” to “It terrifies me”. Have you ever watched fox & friends? Horrible show. Steve Doocey and the brown-haired guy who is not Steve Doocey are devoid of any intelligence and rationale thought.
Trump is a 10-year old who thinks he's teaching a 1st grade classroom. If you don't suck up to him, he'll ignore you and say bad things about you. There are no consequences because mommy isn't around, so he will kick and scream when all the little kids get out of order. Some kids are big brown-nosers though, and they even attack the other kids. Trump likes those kids, so he hires them and watch their shows. I dare anyone to argue this isn't true.
I will not argue...good description of The Orange One.
Flagpole wrote:
So, what's the next step? Anyone want to guess?
I THINK Trump fires Rosenstein next. Not making a guarantee, but I think this happens next and likely soon.
So, Trump does this in the hopes of putting in someone who will curtail Mueller. That is a dicey thing as that person could then be brought up on charges of Obstruction of Justice. And, I would imagine that Trump would want this person's loyalty as has been his MO. That might be hard to get. So, if he CAN'T get a loyalty pledge from a potential Assistant AG, then perhaps Rosenstein stays a bit longer.
Ultimately, Trump will have to fire him and/or Mueller if he doesn't want the truth to come out. Either that or resign and hope it doesn't. Seems unlikely Trump will just sit by (as he should) and let Mueller continue his work.
So, guesses anyone?
Probably resign but claim victory or something stupid. I'm much more concerned about the cynical wave that will follow. Millions of voters will completely lose faith in the system and become even more disaffected, believing there's no hope of representation and fair game in Washington. If Trump is ousted before the 2020 election, expect record low voter turnout.
Trump is now a short term problem. The millions of Americans who voted for him are the long problem for lack of a better word. Consider that the college gender gap is still growing and traditionally male jobs are being shipped overseas, I think you'll have an interesting social issue of high school educated unemployed angry white men on your hands sooner than you think.
Racket wrote:
Probably resign but claim victory or something stupid. I'm much more concerned about the cynical wave that will follow. Millions of voters will completely lose faith in the system and become even more disaffected, believing there's no hope of representation and fair game in Washington. If Trump is ousted before the 2020 election, expect record low voter turnout.
I didn't search for it but I recall a speech where Trump said it would only take "a year, maybe two" to fix the country. I think he also said he would resign after that because there would be nothing left to do. Yes it was a joke but I would not be shocked if he did indeed resign and either claim victory, or say that it's impossible to do anything because of obstructionist Democrats.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, what's the next step? Anyone want to guess?
I THINK Trump fires Rosenstein next. Not making a guarantee, but I think this happens next and likely soon.
So, Trump does this in the hopes of putting in someone who will curtail Mueller. That is a dicey thing as that person could then be brought up on charges of Obstruction of Justice. And, I would imagine that Trump would want this person's loyalty as has been his MO. That might be hard to get. So, if he CAN'T get a loyalty pledge from a potential Assistant AG, then perhaps Rosenstein stays a bit longer.
Ultimately, Trump will have to fire him and/or Mueller if he doesn't want the truth to come out. Either that or resign and hope it doesn't. Seems unlikely Trump will just sit by (as he should) and let Mueller continue his work.
So, guesses anyone?
Probably resign but claim victory or something stupid. I'm much more concerned about the cynical wave that will follow. Millions of voters will completely lose faith in the system and become even more disaffected, believing there's no hope of representation and fair game in Washington. If Trump is ousted before the 2020 election, expect record low voter turnout.
Trump is now a short term problem. The millions of Americans who voted for him are the long problem for lack of a better word. Consider that the college gender gap is still growing and traditionally male jobs are being shipped overseas, I think you'll have an interesting social issue of high school educated unemployed angry white men on your hands sooner than you think.
Wouldn't you say they lost confidence in the system in 2000? I remember that mood very well, everyone claimed it was rigged, even some Bush supporters didn't like how it was handled. If Trump is kicked out of office before 2020 I think there would be a record low turnout for Republicans, but not Democrats. In fact, almost every Democrat would say they have MORE faith in the system because he was impeached. Can anyone really argue if a crime was committed and undisputable evidence presented? The only thing Republicans can claim is that they went after Trump until they got something. There may ultimately be some slight truth to that, but he did attract scrutiny so if evidence is found it should certainly not be ignored, this is a country of laws.
That folks like Gary believe Hillary and Barrack were not prosecuted for crimes does not mean they committed any crimes. The system didn't go after Barrack and couldn't find Hillary guilty of any wrongdoing after numerous investigations. It may also not find Trump guilty of anything. Democrats would be furious with that outcome, but I would say it's fair, even under a GOP-controlled government. It's the same system as before, no special treatment. However, if they do find something, no one can say it's unfair and he's got to go, period.
Count Chocula wrote:
Racket wrote:
Probably resign but claim victory or something stupid. I'm much more concerned about the cynical wave that will follow. Millions of voters will completely lose faith in the system and become even more disaffected, believing there's no hope of representation and fair game in Washington. If Trump is ousted before the 2020 election, expect record low voter turnout.
I didn't search for it but I recall a speech where Trump said it would only take "a year, maybe two" to fix the country. I think he also said he would resign after that because there would be nothing left to do. Yes it was a joke but I would not be shocked if he did indeed resign and either claim victory, or say that it's impossible to do anything because of obstructionist Democrats.
We know from documented interviews that Trump never wanted to be in the WH. The decision to run was impulsive and started as nothing more than one of his self-promotion stunts. Once he gained traction, sure of course he started taking it more seriously as his ego had never before been inflated to such levels. I argue that winning the election must have felt like the lowest most depressing moment in his life. He has yet to take his job seriously, and if he can find an exit that allows him to still claim victory he will take it. Depending on how bad the findings are, there may parts of the investigation the American people will only learn about decades later. Contrary to what millions believe, I don't think he would go kicking and screaming. Mueller would find a way to soften the landing and not let it turn into an uncontrollable crisis.
Trump cannot wait to be done.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, what's the next step? Anyone want to guess?
I THINK Trump fires Rosenstein next. Not making a guarantee, but I think this happens next and likely soon.
So, Trump does this in the hopes of putting in someone who will curtail Mueller. That is a dicey thing as that person could then be brought up on charges of Obstruction of Justice. And, I would imagine that Trump would want this person's loyalty as has been his MO. That might be hard to get. So, if he CAN'T get a loyalty pledge from a potential Assistant AG, then perhaps Rosenstein stays a bit longer.
Ultimately, Trump will have to fire him and/or Mueller if he doesn't want the truth to come out. Either that or resign and hope it doesn't. Seems unlikely Trump will just sit by (as he should) and let Mueller continue his work.
So, guesses anyone?
Probably resign but claim victory or something stupid. I'm much more concerned about the cynical wave that will follow. Millions of voters will completely lose faith in the system and become even more disaffected, believing there's no hope of representation and fair game in Washington. If Trump is ousted before the 2020 election, expect record low voter turnout.
Trump is now a short term problem. The millions of Americans who voted for him are the long problem for lack of a better word. Consider that the college gender gap is still growing and traditionally male jobs are being shipped overseas, I think you'll have an interesting social issue of high school educated unemployed angry white men on your hands sooner than you think.
Good. You guys are starting to think about the real problem here. Of course you're wrong about who will be disenfranchised. It won't only be "high school educated unemployed angry white men", which is the typical smear thrown at Republicans, it will be at least 62 million voting Americans of every demographic who will now know that our government will never again allow them to have representation in DC. They will know that laws will be twisted, bent, and ignored to ensure their opponents are not punished, while their representatives are held to an impossible standard designed to keep them out of power. They will know that they are considered enemies of their own government even if they have done nothing wrong. They see their government working harder for citizens of other countries who are here illegally than they work for the legal citizens who voted for them
In addition to that, they will know that every powerful institution in the country is blaming them for things they have not done, and will look the other way when violence is used to silence their voices in the public square. They see their voices censored on social media, and they see corporate America locking them out of jobs simply because they disagree with the latest liberal orthodoxy. They see education monopolized by their enemies while their children are taught to hate their own culture. They see their children being kept out of colleges simply because of the color of their skin.
Never ending insults and accusations heaped on injustice and unfairness.
... and if Trump gets run out of office they will KNOW there is NO LEGAL WAY TO FIX IT! All legal doors will be shut!
We can either resolve our differences with the ballot or the sword. If you take away the ballot, then there's only the sword. That's bad.
EVERYONE in the country should be talking about this, but almost no one is.
Oh, one more thing. The ultimate goal of the left is to treat the right so unfairly that they DO get violent, then as we saw with the Charlottesville event, They'll ignore the provocation and smear everyone on the right as dangerously violent ... so the "final crackdown" can begin.
If Trump gets run out of office, it will be the beginning of an America apartheid, where a large group of people are intentionally kept powerless while they are made second class citizens.
You heard it here first.
DiscoGary wrote:
If Trump gets run out of office, it will be the beginning of an America apartheid, where a large group of people are intentionally kept powerless while they are made second class citizens.
You heard it here first.
Ahem, Trump is the America [white] apartheid. That is what you voted for.
Here's the crazy thing. -Trump gets impeached. -Pence becomes president, pardons Trump. -Appoints Trump VP. -Pence resigns, Trump president again. Boom!!
The only thing I'll say in response to this trope is that if you're suggesting the election of Donald Trump has changed the political landscape and uncovered dozens of social issues that will need to be addressed in the near future, then yes, congratulations on stating the obvious.