How stupid can you get wrote:
sovietvest wrote:Tergat only ran 56 secs on that last lap in Sydney - Geb was injured and had missed a load of training.
Tergat ran 26:27.
Farah would have had to run his PR with a 35 second last lap.
Tergat never ran sub-27 in a championship race.
What Tergat ran was Tergat's race, what Farah ran was Farah's race. Your facts won't change that. Everyone runs his/her race.
If you feel they should have run differently, you can as well start running to show the world how people should run.
Dude you're comparing farah to people who ran in the dark ages when it comes to drugs. 12:50 5k use to be the norm, not because they were better but because everyone was on drugs. The only way to get away with taking epo today is to microdose, which means the times are slower. Get your head checked
Farah koolaid wrote:
the most lamentable tragedy wrote:Mo Farah isn't Gebrselassie and he isn't Bekele but my word he's good at running 10,000m.
Apart from those two, who could you really pick out from the history of the sport with the tools to beat him? There are a small handful of other greats like Tergat and Kipchoge that would make it a race, sure, but Farah's all round ability and credentials would probably still make him favourite.
Trolls aside, there seem to be people that are genuine in their conviction that 27 flat for 10,000m is slow. It's not. Runners weren't mugs before 1993. Again, a few freakish performances from a very small number of champions have skewed expectations.
Is that a joke?
Tergat would beat Farah with no problem at all. He practically tied with Geb in a kick in Sydney and has run 26:2x. He also actally bothered to try to run fast times. Farah has shown absolutely no "all around ability" to run close to or under 26:30. Kipchoge would beat him also I bet as would Sihine.
27:01 IS slow. It's almost a minute off the world record. Roughly, it's like a 13:00-13:05 5000. That wouldn't be so slow if he was doing it against stronger competition or if he was actually doing any of the work. But he wasn't and never does.
Slow? in 80 degree weather with 60% humidity. I don't know the physics behind it, but i would guess you could knock off 25-30 sec just for the weather. Dont compare farah to geb or anyone of that time in history. The amount of drugs that those guys could take without getting caught was dramatically more than todays runners. No one is running those kinds of times anymore, and the simple answer to that is Bio Passport.
And farah isn't on any drugs? ....OK....
Hold the phone2 wrote:
Slow? in 80 degree weather with 60% humidity. I don't know the physics behind it, but i would guess you could knock off 25-30 sec just for the weather. Dont compare farah to geb or anyone of that time in history. The amount of drugs that those guys could take without getting caught was dramatically more than todays runners. No one is running those kinds of times anymore, and the simple answer to that is Bio Passport.
You don't know the physics behind it, but somehow arrive at 25-30 seconds?
Everyone faster than Farah is on drugs? They aren't running those times anymore because of the Bio Passport? Yet somehow ever since the 5000/10000 times started to get slower, the marathon and half marathon times have gotten faster.
Hm it must be drugs. It couldn't possibly be that all the good talent moved to the roads?
sovietvest wrote:I doubt he'll ever run a 26:2x (26:35 is probably his limit) but in a champs race he'd certainly have beaten the likes of Tergat, Sihine, Kipchoge
you are definitely selling mo short
he is very likely in 26'30 shape at worse, maybe nearer 26'20
in eugene, story was his team offered the kenyans a 5-figure sum to pace him at 26'30 pace to at least 6k, but even with that cash offer they refused
it is not from lack of trying mo can't get the fast 10k pace to show his prowess
( btw :
i agree with Rog on T&F that cram was worth 1'41-mid in edinburgh on warm, 0 wind day
soulemain ran a ridiculous 8.5m extra on bends in his 1'42.9 giving up at the finish when knowing he was beat
that was worth 1'41.5 if route-1 all the way & hard to line with drafting on 1st lap
( he got virtually none as so wide most of 1st lap !!! )
if he has 1'41.5 ability of primary 1500 training, i have no doubt cram couda matched it
discussion here for you to pass onto Rog :
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2816593&page=6)
Detektorr wrote:
Hold the phone2 wrote:Slow? in 80 degree weather with 60% humidity. I don't know the physics behind it, but i would guess you could knock off 25-30 sec just for the weather. Dont compare farah to geb or anyone of that time in history. The amount of drugs that those guys could take without getting caught was dramatically more than todays runners. No one is running those kinds of times anymore, and the simple answer to that is Bio Passport.
You don't know the physics behind it, but somehow arrive at 25-30 seconds?
Everyone faster than Farah is on drugs? They aren't running those times anymore because of the Bio Passport? Yet somehow ever since the 5000/10000 times started to get slower, the marathon and half marathon times have gotten faster.
Hm it must be drugs. It couldn't possibly be that all the good talent moved to the roads?
^This
ventolin^3 wrote:
you are definitely selling mo short
he is very likely in 26'30 shape at worse, maybe nearer 26'20 ...
Whuh? didn't you say Kamworor is in something like 26.0 shape? And Mo just blew by him easily.
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wtfunny wrote:
ventolin^3 wrote:
you are definitely selling mo short
he is very likely in 26'30 shape at worse, maybe nearer 26'20 ...
Whuh? didn't you say Kamworor is in something like 26.0 shape? And Mo just blew by him easily
you clearly don't understand concept of drafting
kenyans did probably 23 laps of leading, Kamwo most of it with mo drafting off them
23 laps of drafting at ~ 0.7s/lap ->16+s of less energy expended by mo coming to last lap, compared to the kenyans & mostly Kamwo
that's why mo beat a man who coud be 15s faster in a proper tt, when flat-out from gun & solo last 5k