Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or &quot

did you go to Munich? Is there a reason you are not using Cattey?

I might be heading over to munich this summer and wanted to know if anyone has already been there, and if so, how was it and did it work? Thanks

Hey guys, for those who want to see the Canadian doc in Montreal, have your doc fax his office a request at 514 937 5522. He or his partner Dr. Rea Brown will see you for a consultation. Both are experts and have done many operations on pro athletes and laymen like myself. Had it done on April 7 by Dr. Brown. He said the damage was fairly extensive and found nerve entrapment as well but the prognosis was still 6 to 8 weeks for recovery. The total price for his fee and the clinics was 2499.00 in Canadian funds. Am feeling better so far but not yet all the way back. Hope this helps.

Did I read that right? Are you saying that Dr. Brown did *surgery* for $2,499.00?

johnnywalker70 wrote:

Hey guys, for those who want to see the Canadian doc in Montreal, have your doc fax his office a request at 514 937 5522. He or his partner Dr. Rea Brown will see you for a consultation. Both are experts and have done many operations on pro athletes and laymen like myself. Had it done on April 7 by Dr. Brown. He said the damage was fairly extensive and found nerve entrapment as well but the prognosis was still 6 to 8 weeks for recovery. The total price for his fee and the clinics was 2499.00 in Canadian funds. Am feeling better so far but not yet all the way back. Hope this helps.

That's right, his proceedure is similar to that of Dr. Joesting in Minnesota. He uses mesh to repair the tears with and open technique to diagnos for further problems like I had, not just laproscopically slapping a patch down over the general area like Dr. Cattey. I am sure this works some of them time with certain types of this injury but it wouldn't have with mine so I am glad I made the long drive from Windsor.

I am so glad to hear that I am not alone in Canada. I thank you alot for your post it help like you would not believe. I hate going to see doctor after doctor and getting these blank looks and them saying its just tendenitous of the groin. I think that goes away after 8 months of doing nothing. I have a couple questions for you though, did he need a MRI (I know they don't show a sports hernia) but I have read that some want one anyways. 2. can you keep me updated on your recovery. At this point I want the best treatment cause I know I can't live like this or half of this my whole life. Thanks again for you help.

Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada.

Johnny could you please email me with more about the surgery and recovery. m_kozyra@hotmail.com please put Sports Hernia as the subject... Thank You

I've definitely had problems since my surgery in 10/04. Before the surgery my doc wasn't sure that I actually had a hernia and gave me the option of surgery. After the general pain in the lower abdominal area turned into severe groin pain (adductor muscle), which caused me to drop running completely, I knew I needed surgery. My surgeon couldn't explain why my adductor muscle hurt so much, which made me worry some, but I had the surgery anyhow. After the surgery I resumed light training w/ little pain for a few months, but as I added more miles, the pain in the adductor returned. I was able to train through it and managed a marathon in December '05, but since the 'Thon things have been really bad. Any time I run my adductor muscle on the left side gets very sore and tight. Hurts the rest of the day and even at night when I roll over in the bed. If I take a few days off running the pain gradually goes away and I have little problems. If I wasn't a runner/athlete I'd have no problems w/ it from what I can tell. I finally went to my gen. doc again and he of course can't figure out what's wrong, so next step is re-visiting my surgeon, who I KNOW won't be able to tell me what's going on. Then hopefully an MRI w/ my general doc again. Perhaps I need to travel to Canada or Philly to finally get to the bottom of this. I've not been able to run as I'd like for 2 full years now and I'm about to become a masters runner. Definitely not happy!

G Towne,

Your symptoms sound eerily similar to mine. I'm also in my late 30s and very frustrated. I was fine for a while then things turned bad. They're still bad and I can't figure why.

Take the adductor tightness, for example. The inside of my thigh was really tight in the months after surgery. I just assumed it would go away with running and stretching but it never did. Then other stuff started hurting.

Obviously there's some kind of chain reaction going on. Do I keep getting injured because my biomechanics have been altered? Or is there another injury deep in the groin that is causing all this? A nerve entrapment? Big mystery.

Like you, I don't have much pain after resting it. Yesterday I ran 5miles without much problem. Today I'm limping.

I'm going back to the surgeon.

MAN! I had the exactly same thing u have. I went to some doctors and everyone of them checked my balls except one surgen who told me he has to cut my skin and fix it.

He also mentioned a PT who's doing some research about this kind of injury.

I went to this PT and he gave me lots of strength exrecises(Iliopsoas and stuff) and streching.

At the beggining it was very hurt but after few sessions it began to workout and today, 1 year later I completely forgot about it. I suffered for 6 months, I couldn't even get up from bed normally. If I'm out of it , any1 can be.

I believe the solution is agrresive strength workouts. (I did twice a day!!!).

Good luck man!

ITBman: can you give us more information about the "aggressive strength training" you did. I have been diagnosed with ostietis pubis and have not run in 3 months. Everything I read about this condition suggests that I need to do more "core strenghth" training, but little is noted as to what those exercises are except for crunches and planks. Any advice you can give will be greatly appreciated.

I've done Isometric exercises with physioball (My hands on the floor, my legs on the ball and trying to stabilize the whole body , mostly the core), and also the same idea but with hands holding ropes that come from above and feet on the floor. I did 10 sets of 10-15 sec each one. It's difficult. furthermore I've done dynamic exercise as well (look at http://exrx.net/Lists/ExList/HipsWt.html#anchor1938598 - Lying Leg Raise).

Thanks for the reply. That webe site has tons great exercises with video clips which show how to do them.

bump

I am a 31 year old male. I live in CT and have been experiencing lower abdominal/groin pain for approx. a year. I am very active and play hockey and soccer outside my profession as a phys. ed. teacher. I have had a MRI and an arthrogram (injectable dye) on my right hip. I have also had an X-Ray. All came back negative. The pain was so bad in my groin that it felt like someone was stabbing me. It was breath-taking. That stabbing pain subsided after a few weeks of inactivity, but the dull pain in the front of my hip and groin was still there. My symptoms to this day are: when I extend my affected leg upon walking it hurts, sitting and doing a "butterfly" stretch and compressing/flexing my hip/thigh to my chest and inward rotation. My primary care physician doesn't have a clue and never even heard of a sports hernia when I suggested it. He basically laughed at me. Does this sound familiar? Please help!

I feel your pain man, I am tired of going to doctor after doctor and even sports medicine physiotherapists and them just saying I have no idea whats wrong. One surgeon told me it was tendenitous of the groin, and ask him sarcastically even after 6 months of rest and no activities. He just stook by his answer. There is hope out there though, and I am in the middle of that big search.

good informational site at groininstitute.com--Vm

Thank you very much for sharing the site. It was very informative.

Hi,

My Names Matt aged 27 from the UK.

I must say that this site is most informative.

I had the Gilmore's Groin / Sports Hernia for about 18 months. Definitely the worst 18 months of my life, the pain and no exercise was unbearable. Having seen some dodgy Physio's and Dr after Dr and being passed from pillar to post for about 12 months was most frustrating. I was finally referred to a sports injury specialist: Dr Graham Holloway who operates at the BMI Ridegway Clinic in Wroughton Swindon Wiltshire. He seem to definitely diagnose my pain/injury to a tee and was most understanding.

He booked me in for the operation within the week. I had it done on the Friday 7th of April 2006. And here¡¦s my story so far.

Week 1 post op: pretty painful & stiff for the first 4-5 days. Was told had to stand up straight and walk around the room. Ps. What ever you do, don't sneeze, it hurts like hell!!!!!! lol

2nd week post op: The operation pain seem to have gone. Walking around a lot more, all be it not very far. Getting out of bed and up from sitting is pretty painful. Doing a few bed exercises such as leg raises with one knee bent up to my chest. That seemed to help my mobility, as couldn¡¦t really pull on my socks and shoes as was quite tight.

Had my first physio appointment (Make Liefhebber). Said my legs & upper body were doing all the work and that my core stability and hips were being left out. Still hurts when I sneeze.

3rd week post op: Much more mobile, walking longer distances and things seemed good¡K¡K had my 3rd physio session which was a bit more intense, doing some work on the way a I run and some hard core work. No pain during and after exercise for the first 2 physio appointments, but getting some weird shooting pain down my adductors, pain in my lower back and lower abdominals after my 3rd physio appointment. No pain when I sneeze now ƒº. Was told I could jog, but pain in my lower back and adductors when I tried so cut that one short.

4th week post op: That¡¦s today! keep on thinking that the pains I¡¦m getting during and after exercise means that the op was not a successful.

Think all this rubbish of 4-6 weeks recovery is a load of rubbish¡K..... Especially since I had the symptoms for 18 months¡K¡K