Official Zurich DL Live Discussion Thread: Last call for Nuguse & Hoey + Instant Reaction Show at 3:45 pm ET

2013/2015 Kiprop. Notable for Laros: No favorite has won since 2019. Unless you think Jakob was the favorite in 2021. But Wightman, Kerr, and Hocker were all serious underdogs at the time.

Because the world champs is about representing countries and the best from each country competing against each other.

Watch the diamond league or the national champs if you want 8 people from the same country in 1 race.

Nobody wants to watch a 100m race at the world champs with 8 Americans in it.

But it was really just today's race where we saw major regression. I think the mistake was Brussels. He ran 1530m there and his trip was awful, but the fitness was completely there. He didn't lose it all 6 days, but he might've just been gassed from 3 hard races in short succession along with travel.

Jakob definitely wasn't favorite in 2021, so yeah the favorites have struggled. I do think Laros did enough today where even the bigger names with hardware would trail in a betting market. Then again, I remember last year Cheptegei was the betting favorite at 10,000 for instance after not having done much.

lol I love that they have Cooper Teare on the stream in a team USA shirt.

Not sure. If they intentionally switched bibs, I assume there would be consequences, but my guess is that their names are similar enough that it was an innocent mistake by the athletes/clerks and there will be no penalties. But we'll see.

The international broadcast (Hutchings?) has now caught on, a bit, someone told them but they're going to talk about it later.

I checked the USATF Rules Book (because I hate the WA book) and it says the following:

Rule 143.5c

"(c) No athlete shall be permitted to participate in any competition without the appropriate bib, except as indicated in these rules. Bibs are to be worn as issued (cutting or folding numbers is not permitted). The identifying information on the bib need not be numeric. It shall be of sufficient font type, size and contrast for clear visibility. Not wearing an assigned bib may be grounds for disqualification under Rule 145.2."

Rule 136.4

"The Clerk of Course, and Assistants, shall ensure that competitors are wearing clothing, shoes, and spikes which are in accordance with USATF Rules. The Clerk shall verify that bibs correspond to those on the start list and are worn correctly. The Clerk shall also be responsible for distribution and proper placement of additional identification items used to aid in announcing and judging."

Rule 145.2

"Any competitor who shall refuse to obey the directions of the Referee or other proper official, or who shall conduct himself/herself in an unsporting manner, or who is offensive by action or language to the officials, spectators, or competitors at any competition, or under Rule 162.17, shall render that competitor liable to disqualification by the Referee from participation in all further events or rounds of events, including individual events of a Combined Event, simultaneous events and relays, at the meet. If such disqualification occurs, any performance accomplished up to that time in the same event session shall not be considered valid. Performances accomplished in any previous event session, such as a qualifying round or previous events of a combined event, shall stand. If the Referee thinks the offense worthy of additional action, he/she shall promptly make detailed statement of the offense to the appropriate National or Association Officer."

Pace lights for 7:22, good news for Grant.

Shouldn't there be more of a difference between olympics and worlds? other than 2 auto bids from prior champs and diamond league.

Makes zero sense because in golf and tennis you aren't competing for your country.

You can be countryless and compete, see Medvedev or any Russian or Belarussian.

Its the equivalent of the diamond league in that sense.

The World Athletics Championships is literally about each country sending their best. The countries are the teams, its not just about being the best athlete.

You know during the Davis Cup, USA cant enter 6 tennis teams right?

makes you wonder if Americans are trying to jinx Laros by declaring him the favorite, knowing the favorite regularly doesn't win.

CAN GRANT FISHER WIN HIS FIRST MAJOR INTERNATIONAL RACE?

Gap opening between leaders and pacer, which isn't as much

THey should have let Jakob into this 3k. WOuld have destroyed Fisher and it would have been marvelous.

I'd be surprised if they DQd.

"may be grounds", "the clerk shall verify", and "any competitor who shall refuse to obey the directions of the referee" are all very wishy washy language that to me make it sound like this rule only applies to intentionally not wearing the correct bib AND disobeying orders to put on the appropriate one. The officials are as much to blame here if they didn't catch it beforehand, and I don't think the language is strong enough to warrant an honest mistake (if it was that)

2:27 1st k; 2:39 2nd k

It should be a pure race not a paced race.