Go interfere with an active crime scene act disrespectful to a police officer and when they tell you to leave pull the bs Kerley did. Your going to get the crap beat out of you which the judge will side with the police and your going to get arrested. He is an idiot I don't care how many Olympic medals he has he lost any respect I had for him. Too me based off of his actions he is a thug that can run fast. Police whether you like them or not have a terrible job one in which they risk loosing there lives everyday and Kerley just made a crime scene they were dealing with more difficult by interfering. He should have shut up and listen to there direction to go around.
Police officer is not even in the top ten most dangerous jobs. Delivery driver is much more dangerous. Also, being disrespectful isn’t a crime. Even if Fred didn’t do things to stop the situation from escalating the police should have done that. They could have easily handled his concerns calmly and not started putting hands on him. The police were scared of him because he is a tall black man. They escalated the situation and were unnecessarily violent. You are a bootlicker and called Fred Kerly a “thug” for being as disrespectful to the cops as they were to him. You are a racist loser.
LOL calling Fred a thug. He founded a barber shop in Miami about a year or so ago so he is actually a small business owner contributing to the Miami economy. He has also founded other businesses in other states employing both his family members and other people. He is a businessman.
So very sad to see this involving one of our great sprinters. All involved could have deescalated. Those that are trained to do so didn’t - not a good look on the police involved.
To both of you posters. High probability Grant and Yared would have acted differently, as would have most anyone. Say “yes officer”, even if the officer is being a jerk or in the wrong.
Walk away to another day.
To Fast Sprinter; don’t judge a book by its cover, I have heard Grant is a double black belt.
Police officer is not even in the top ten most dangerous jobs. Delivery driver is much more dangerous. Also, being disrespectful isn’t a crime. Even if Fred didn’t do things to stop the situation from escalating the police should have done that. They could have easily handled his concerns calmly and not started putting hands on him. The police were scared of him because he is a tall black man. They escalated the situation and were unnecessarily violent. You are a bootlicker and called Fred Kerly a “thug” for being as disrespectful to the cops as they were to him. You are a racist loser.
LOL calling Fred a thug. He founded a barber shop in Miami about a year or so ago so he is actually a small business owner contributing to the Miami economy. He has also founded other businesses in other states employing both his family members and other people. He is a businessman.
This and many other things will come out during the defamation trials (yes there will be at least two organizations sued).
You are TOTALLY completely effing delusional. The officer pushed him for behind into the other officer, causing his hand to hit him in the face. You can clearly see he was sandwiched between them, and they pushed him into a conflict. They weren’t just doing their job. They exacerbated the conflict and caused it to happen so they could slam dunk him. It was a complete set up. THIS IS THE GAME THEY PLAY.
They were completely the perpetrators and aggressors in that situation and should be fired immediately!
Yes that's exactly what happened.
That was obvious in the video, yet no one brought it up before you did. Thank you for pointing it out.
My BIL is a retired cop and my son did five years as a cop.
All cops are not bad and all are not good.
That cop throwing punches should be dismissed.
A tactic many police departments use when one of their own have done wrong is to throw as many charges as possible against the person who was wronged and get the wronged taxpayer to agree to drop all charges against the department.
The municipality agrees because the police union can shut the town down plus they do not want to have bad publicity or large payouts.
A bad cop can hurt you as bad as a criminal. My son and BIL were always talking about someone on the force they felt shouldn't be in law enforcement
Well if Fred refused to obey instructions, what are the police supposed to do? “Ok Fred you can stay near a crime scene.” At some point people simply have to do what they’re told by lawful authorities.
Again, you are not legally obligated to follow random instructions from a police officer. Being a law enforcement officer does NOT grant you a special power to order people around and randomly tell them what to do unless what you are instructing them to do exists as a law. With all due respect, it's a very dangerous to suggest "just do what you are told" Authoritarianism is born from such sentiments.
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The officer pushed him for behind into the other officer, causing his hand to hit him in the face. You can clearly see he was sandwiched between them, and they pushed him into a conflict. They weren’t just doing their job. They exacerbated the conflict and caused it to happen so they could slam dunk him. It was a complete set up. THIS IS THE GAME THEY PLAY.
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I'm personally on the side of cops generally, but not a cop that is breaking the law themselves. you just advise the officer, let's abide by the law shall we?
“The police were just doing their job. It's Kerley's fault for getting arrested. Kerley was acting pretty stupidly and was impulsive. You should never act aggressively to a police officer and should treat the police with respect. If you attack a police officer like Kerley did, you're asking for trouble. Playing "tough guy" against the police doesn't work.“
I have seem this tactic many times before - push the guy, grab the guy, shove the guy into a response, so then can then claim it was “ok to use force” on a supposed violent person resisting arrest. It’s a natural human triggered response to fight back and resist when attacked, and they’re counting on that response to allow them to slam dunk and kick, squeez and punch the person. The punching was the most egregious that I’ve seen in a long while - but totally part of their entrapment tactics!!! They totally bated him into a response by grabbing him and hitting his face and then shoving him from behind into the other officer, sandwiching him into a fight!!! This is completely unacceptable and absurd and everyone of those officers needs to be fired without pay immediately!!!
You must have been watching different footage. I saw Kerley turn away from jawing at two other officers, and move towards the officer with the red wristband who initial puts his open hand up (palm down) to stop Kerley coming at him. Kerley continues and the officer to his right forcibly pushes Kerley backwards. Kerley makes a face like it was a schoolyard fight and then goes hard at the first officer (wristband guy) with a push to the guys chest/upper body.
The haymakers are unecessary and a terrible optic. Then again if Kerley didn't look like he was trying to get to his feet while being told to stay down (hardly unfair at this point), I doubt whether the office in question really wants to put himself under the spotlight (which he will absolutely now be) unnecessarily.
If "bating" a guy is telling him he can't do something (like enter a cordoned off crime scene) then I think we have bigger problems in society than Fred Kerley being arrested. But you tell yourself what you need to to satisfy you agenda - it's America after all.
Oddly, Sheldon Fox’s own article, which gets top billing on WSVN 7 News Miami’s website, does not mention these additional charges. I don’t know what to make of that. They’re obviously extremely serious.
You don't know what to make of that? WSVN 7 doesn't want to get sued for defamation airing information before they vet the story as factual. Sheldon putting that on his Twitter is now inviting a big fat defamation suit from Fred and his legal team. If it can be proven that Sheldon communicated with any Florida law enforcement immediately prior to that tweet, then Sheldon Fox will face criminal charges with RICO statutes tacked on in addition to the civil defamation case.
The officer pushed him for behind into the other officer, causing his hand to hit him in the face. You can clearly see he was sandwiched between them, and they pushed him into a conflict. They weren’t just doing their job. They exacerbated the conflict and caused it to happen so they could slam dunk him. It was a complete set up. THIS IS THE GAME THEY PLAY.
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I'm personally on the side of cops generally, but not a cop that is breaking the law themselves. you just advise the officer, let's abide by the law shall we?
He has every right to argue with the cops about accessing his car. Having heated discussions with law enforcement is not against the law. Based on the videos it does appear cops initiated force.
If "bating" a guy is telling him he can't do something (like enter a cordoned off crime scene) then I think we have bigger problems in society than Fred Kerley being arrested. But you tell yourself what you need to to satisfy you agenda - it's America after all.
That is not what happened and you are describing what you personally want to see, in order to make the officers appear more innocent than they actually were. "To put his hand up to stop Kerley coming at him" - Nonsense BS!!! He or she does that to stop him so that the other officer behind Kerley can then shove him forward into the the one with the raise hand, thus starting the shoving, grabbing and fighting. It all becomes then a twisted mess from there. They didn't "just tell him" - They were grabbing and being deliberately physically aggressive in order to bait him into a response, so they could "Get their Man". They have a total paranoid cage fight mentality and it shines through in their actions and in their total inability to engage in conversation and reasonableness. Gotta be 'Dominate & Right' at all costs no matter what is their motto. Because you just KNOW he must be packing - Can't take a chance - NOPE! They knew he had gravitas and confidence, so they played their game to get him to go off, so they could then all be "HEROES" for the moment. Pathetic childish bull$hit not worthy of the badges their wearing.
I agree + "you are a bootlicker"'s point about the thug wording.
Too many people on Facebook using the word "thug" to disguise what they really mean. See it all the time out in the midwest. But that's besides the point.
Too many people are excusing the actions of the cops because they themselves see Kerley as arrogant. The police have no such context. Instead, the video shows them repeatedly punching a man on the ground. Not sure what police training indicates that that is the proper de-escalation technique, but all the horribly biased/racist replies in here likely would beat someone up given the chance had they been "disrespected".
This is clearly a case that should not exist. The multiple charges is a classic police tactic, when only one situation occurs but "multiple crimes" are committed - harder to dismiss all three. Problem for them is that Kerley has money and notoriety.
Rewatching the video multiple times, and it doesn't get any easier to look at. The police should never have ended that situation that way. Even if Kerley should not have been as frustrated as he was = he was not the aggressor, and he didn't throw punches. He didn't cause any pain/harm to any officer, and yet he was the one who is getting charged for exactly what the cops did to him. They are not excused in their actions.
Not all cops are bad. But cops like these showcase the worse qualities of cops: headstrong, brash, and overly physical. It happens all the time, only this time it happened to a celebrity.
To look at that and call Kerley the thug is the clear-as-day example of modern-day racism. You won't say the n-word, but you will see people as less than human. No excusing that, even if you don't like how they interview. Whatever.
Oddly, Sheldon Fox’s own article, which gets top billing on WSVN 7 News Miami’s website, does not mention these additional charges. I don’t know what to make of that. They’re obviously extremely serious.
You don't know what to make of that? WSVN 7 doesn't want to get sued for defamation airing information before they vet the story as factual. Sheldon putting that on his Twitter is now inviting a big fat defamation suit from Fred and his legal team. If it can be proven that Sheldon communicated with any Florida law enforcement immediately prior to that tweet, then Sheldon Fox will face criminal charges with RICO statutes tacked on in addition to the civil defamation case.
Guess I had too high an opinion of random Florida TV reporters. Though I’m not convinced of the criminal charges portion.
Those cops are a criminal gang themselves. Any excuse to power trip and use excessive force on a man just because he had a problem with being impeded from going home. At least they all have body cams now, and people can publicly record, but the pigs still cover for each other if convenient to do so. No public video almost always means the cop/s will get off unscathed with their abuse of power/crimes.
I really don’t want to defend the cops here, and I’m not going to try to. But I absolutely do think this situation could have been avoided.
Kerley: “Can I get to my car?”
Cops: “no.”
Kerley: “Okay.” *walks away*
Yes, sometimes cops can be stubborn, lacking in deescalation skills, etc…. But 99% of the time, though, some respect and a little humility will go a long way, and at the very least, prevent you from getting arrested. You cannot decide how someone else is going to act, but you can decide how you respond to it. We may not have a complete storyline for how the altercation started, but I refuse to believe it started by Kerley walking away from the cops.
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He MAY have done something to escalate the situation unnecessarily, but from what I see, there isn't enough information yet to determine. Perhaps he did, but maybe he didn't. There are SCORES of videos on YouTube of officers WAY overreacting t
There are even more youtube videos of "ah know my rights" belligerent perps challenging the po-po when it's clear they are trying to give them every reason just to give them ID and proof of Insurance. Open your effing eyes Flagpole.
Perhaps, but the average dumb@ss American isn't supposed to know what the law is, and cops ARE supposed to know. Also, cops have power that they can use illegally, and the person just has to take it until litigation can happen later.