Erriyon Knighton Cleared by USADA After Provisional Suspension for Trenbolone (Tainted Meat Deemed Likely)

Just say no to meat, kids. And all animal products.

Go vegan.

Amazing that you guys have no idea what goes on.

You people are playing a completely different game.

oh whats going on? athletes arnt micro dosing with a sophisticated cocktail to stay below detectable limits? oh do please tell us all whats going on ex canadian sprinter who never broke 11 in the 100m, you obviously know soooo much

They have a lot more ways to improve, given the significance of turns and underwaters. The underwaters in particular were comparatively primitive until recently.

Plus there's increasing computer work to identify ideal body positioning during each stage of the stroke. A University of Virginia statistics professor has taken the lead on that and works closely with the swim team. Now many of the top swimmers like Kate Douglass are majoring in statistics and authoring papers related to maximizing swim technique.

Anyway, regarding contamination I view it like the jury system. There's an all of nothing verdict that everybody accepts as absolute. Meanwhile it's hardly infallible in either direction. I never pay attention to the claimed percentages.

Get a life. Realize that there are things about which you know nothing.

As for me, this is almost certainly my last season having any interest in track whatsoever. I’m bored with the legality, the pharmaceuticality, the morality, and so on. These have become the dominant aspects of modern track, or sprinting at least.

Yes I know organic chem and even p-chem. Yes I know the legalities—all of them—inside-and-out. Yes I know the general sprint mentality, as well as the big-time athlete system mentality.

And I now find it all basically incurably boring.

If you’re still jazzed by it, great—but for me, I have made the full circuit, there is no more to discover, and I don’t need to stay connected to track for a livelihood.

Maybe I’ll pick up some stuff I used to be into, to fill the void—and maybe put more energy into something I’m not very good at, like swimming.

Maybe I’ve just finally achieved middle age.

But it is what it is.

people so confident that others are micro-dosing, yet they admit they actually have no clue how it might work

case in point, ain't nobody doing 7.5IU or 30IU 2-3x a week 🤣

that would be 7.5IU or 30IU PER KILOGRAM

vast majority of letsrun not only doesn't know how to read scientific studies, they've never tried any of these substances themselves nor do they know anybody irl who has

Because there's studies that show microdosing with EPO & using small amounts of blood transfusions significantly improve performance with endurance athletes.

I don't know anything about microdosing anabolic steroids or even SARMs (e.g. which ones? Oral or injectables? Dosages?).

Microdosing with testosterone would be efficacious as that's the concept with TRT - using a low dose to moderately boost testosterone.

just stop already

that is not the concept AT ALL with TRT

you don't use a low dose to "boost" your testosterone

any exogenous test will shut down your natural production of test

microdosing with test leads to lower test values than one would naturally produce on their own

So why are you deferring your departure? You may or may not come across as a complete and utter bore to some of us.

Smoothness.

My posting is way down. I haven't posted any sort of in-depth bs analysis of any of the trials races. I have posted absolutely nothing about the 400.

I'm not doing the basic thread anymore.

I'm mostly just observing, and making posts like this one.

I might make comments on the OG, if anything actually interesting happens.

But I'm pretty much already gone.

"You may or may not come across as a complete and utter bore to some of us."

This is the kind of incisive comment that I won't miss. :^)

Although there are some things on here that I do find totally hilarious.

Yeah and el k you claimed you were never going to post again when Lipton got busted, the. You came back, then when the potatoe boys had issues you claimed that was it, then the two HM world records you said you were done….but here you are clogging up the threads almost as bad as rectal bummer.

And geezer I have been out of the sport since 06, and PEDs have been being used non stop since the late 50s and have only been getting more sophisticated. I still hit this cesspool up cause I’m bored, sometimes this place has inside info on things that the news is a few days behind, and of course any PED thread I look into, lots of fools and delusional people, doping deniers and apologists and of course scrolling past the 17 comments in a row from rectal bummer.

i understand form and sprinting, and correctly predicted Coleman’s injury due to his sh*t form, and how he would get popped. And his form and over developed quads and weak hammys is also why he tanks the last 30m or so. I have read lots and lots of info on things people have gotten popped for and try to figure out why it would work. I have shown hundreds of times how EPO gives a 3-4% improvement, and for distances it shows a drop of

1.5 seconds for 800
3 for 1500
30 for 5k
60 seconds for 10k
3 minutes for marathon

Of course there are people who are higher responders or are using EPO with a cocktail for more improvements. And now super shoes and spikes, and .2-.5 with juice improvements in the 100.

you see those amounts of time drops in an athletes progression profile and it’s obvious, then see the same amount of slow down you know they are back to running clean….case in point the Uganda 5k guy is 1250-1300 now

I'm at the point where I do not care about any of the World Records, because they are set in paced races and likely by athletes that are not competing cleanly. That said, I still care very much about the Olympic Games, and I think the Olympics are the true evaluator of who the best runners are in each event. Part of this is because the testing is actually quite rigorous around the Olympics, and it is very difficult to try to dope at the Olympics and not get caught. Even doping athletes likely have to "cycle off" in order to not pop a positive around the Olympics. That doesn't mean that they don't have ill-gotten gains in performance, but I do believe most are competing cleanly at the Olympics. The only ones still doping are the ones that think they have the new cutting edge drug that beats the system, and some do probably get away with this, while others do get caught. There's a reason why Kiprop never did squat at the Olympics, and it was a telltale sign he was one of the worst dopers out there. Eventually he was caught.

The fact is, Knighton got caught. However, his team was smart enough to have a built-in excuse in case of getting caught. I believe that this drug was chosen because they could correlate it with the tainted meat excuse. While there is the slightest possibility that he actually just consumed tainted meat, the odds that Knighton, Houlihan, Lawson, Wilson, and many others are all consuming tainted meat is zero. It sucks for Shelby that she is the only one being punished for this, and I think they all should be.

I think you're trolling me (imagine that. Lol). I was a national class bodybuilder & powerlifter back in 1980s - long before you were probably even born. I was a football player & ran sprints in HS. At 63 now, I'm long retired from competition but still train almost daily with the weights at the gym.

I have a couple of friends around my age at the gym using TRT (former strength athletes themselves). Both were hypogonadal (>300ng/dL) & hopped on around 100mg weekly of cypionate. Both raised their test levels significantly to levels in 600 - 700 ng/dL range. 100 mg weekly of cypionate is considered a "lower" dose when compared to the 600+ mg weekly dose used by some professional bodybuilders & strength athletes.

And of course, any exogenous testosterone as well as anabolic steroid use shuts down natural production (nothing new there). That's why some of these bodybuilders & strength athletes on the gear for years need drugs to restart their natural production once they step away from the sport.

Dopers microdosing with testosterone with increase their test levels as well as increase the T/E ratio but usually not over the 4:1 ratio that triggers the carbon isotope test (CIR), which is the only test that can distinguish between naturally occurring cholesterol-based testosterone & plant-derived synthetic testosterone.

However, the relatively new steroid module of the ABP will look for fluctuations in the T/E ratio under 4:1 target testing those athletes. And don't forget Justin Gatlin was nailed with the CIR test (I believe he was using gels).

Microdosing testosterone & designer steroids is name of the game with these dopers. I'm sure Victor Conte has a lot to say on this. Lol

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From Microdosing to Designer Steroids: Uncovering how athletes cheat…

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Dr Rodrigo Aguilera, Principal Analyst in the Drug Control Centre, details the methods competitors use to take performance enhancing drugs in the 21st century.

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A typical doper would follow a path of training hard, getting to the point where it's clear they're not going to "make it" and then dope. But EK was running great times as a 16 year old. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason for him to be doping at 20. I'm not being naive, but this is one of the rare occasions I actually believe an athlete.

Yeah I'm losing a bit of interest. Seeing Noah Lyles run 19.49 jogging over the finish line should be exciting, but it's depressing.

I think they have tested meat from the same source and found traces of trenbolone.