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ClubRunnah · 2023-07-16T12:24:50-04:00

I'd like to hear the LR opinion on this article. The state of modern masculinity. (que the Flagpole Your Not a Real Man list)https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/10/christine-emba-masculinity-new-model/

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2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:06pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
BLM called the nuclear family racist on their own webpage.
Link:nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-webs...
The left openly attacks the nuclear family. Brooks was widely praised by Democrats for this article despite it being completely idiotic.
Link:www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2...

did you even read the article you posted?

David Brooks wrote:
The shift from bigger and interconnected extended families to smaller and detached nuclear families ultimately led to a familial system that liberates the rich and ravages the working-class and the poor.

The point of the article isn't that families are bad, it's that having a large extended family strucure featuring uncles and grandparents and cousins is better for people than having just an indepenent mom/dad/two kids "nuclear" family. Nothing about the article is attacking the idea of family as you want it to be. In fact, I think you would agree that more family is better.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:08pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
XD in what world??
My mother-in-law is a die hard Democrat.
If you discuss most issues with her she will come down on the conservative side of the argument.
The overwhelming majority of Democrats over 40 vote D purely out of habit or they are single issue voters.

Or Republicans are just too far to the right that conservatives won't vote for them.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:25pm EDT

re: whambulance

whambulance wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
BLM called the nuclear family racist on their own webpage.
No they didn’t.

Yes they did.

“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

If you don't do well in math you call math racist.

If you have 70+% of you kids born into broken homes you declare non-broken homes to be racist.

They use the same playbook in every area.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:28pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
whambulance wrote:
No they didn’t.
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

Exactly. Imagine being so dumb you think that is calling the nuclear family racist.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:30pm EDT

re: Let it Rupp

Let it Rupp wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
You've just defined the majority of Democrats as both fiscally conservative and socially conservative.
Good job!
XD in what world??

You've just identified yourself as rather stup!d.

Good job!

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:31pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Yes they did.
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”
If you don't do well in math you call math racist.
If you have 70+% of you kids born into broken homes you declare non-broken homes to be racist.
They use the same playbook in every area.

They aren't saying that families are bad, you baboon. The only possible way you could interpret that statement as "families are bad" is if you are intentionally trying to read it wrong. They're saying that isolation of mom/dad/kids from the extended family is bad. They're saying that having more familiy members around is good and that having fewer parents around is bad. Having more extended family members around can help support single-parent households.

Now if you want to debate as to the cause of single-family homes, we can talk about that separately. But please stop saying this "the left hates families" crap. It makes you look like an idiot with no reading comprehension skills

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:33pm EDT

re: valjean

valjean wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
BLM called the nuclear family racist on their own webpage.
Link:nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-webs...
The left openly attacks the nuclear family. Brooks was widely praised by Democrats for this article despite it being completely idiotic.
Link:www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2...
did you even read the article you posted?
David Brooks wrote:
The shift from bigger and interconnected extended families to smaller and detached nuclear families ultimately led to a familial system that liberates the rich and ravages the working-class and the poor.
The point of the article isn't that families are bad, it's that having a large extended family strucure featuring uncles and grandparents and cousins is better for people than having just an indepenent mom/dad/two kids "nuclear" family. Nothing about the article is attacking the idea of family as you want it to be. In fact, I think you would agree that more family is better.

There's some real stupidity in this article.

If you don't start with the nuclear family where does he think all of the other extended relations come from??

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:35pm EDT

re: whambulance

whambulance wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”
Exactly. Imagine being so dumb you think that is calling the nuclear family racist.

"western-prescribed" is BLM speak for "things white people came up with"

If it's so wholesome an idea why did they remove it from their website?

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:35pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
There's some real stupidity in this article.
If you don't start with the nuclear family where does he think all of the other extended relations come from??

you do start with the nuclear family - and then you add on the extended family so that the nuclear family is not isolated. That's the whole point of the article

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:37pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
valjean wrote:
did you even read the article you posted?
The point of the article isn't that families are bad, it's that having a large extended family strucure featuring uncles and grandparents and cousins is better for people than having just an indepenent mom/dad/two kids "nuclear" family. Nothing about the article is attacking the idea of family as you want it to be. In fact, I think you would agree that more family is better.
There's some real stupidity in this article.
If you don't start with the nuclear family where does he think all of the other extended relations come from??

My DOG, you are stup!d !

It's absolutely incredible.

Try reading again. In fact, try reading it over and over until you comprehend what you are reading.

"The point of the article isn't that families are bad, it's that having a large extended family strucure featuring uncles and grandparents and cousins is better for people than having just an indepenent mom/dad/two kids "nuclear" family. Nothing about the article is attacking the idea of family as you want it to be. In fact, I think you would agree that more family is better."

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:37pm EDT

re: valjean

valjean wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Yes they did.
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”
If you don't do well in math you call math racist.
If you have 70+% of you kids born into broken homes you declare non-broken homes to be racist.
They use the same playbook in every area.
They aren't saying that families are bad, you baboon. The only possible way you could interpret that statement as "families are bad" is if you are intentionally trying to read it wrong. They're saying that isolation of mom/dad/kids from the extended family is bad. They're saying that having more familiy members around is good and that having fewer parents around is bad. Having more extended family members around can help support single-parent households.
Now if you want to debate as to the cause of single-family homes, we can talk about that separately. But please stop saying this "the left hates families" crap. It makes you look like an idiot with no reading comprehension skills

Without the mom and dad there is no extended family you mindless clown.

Single parent households are a disaster in most cases.

Every metric in society proves this.

The left promotes broken homes intentionally through policy. Why would they do that if they didn't want more broken homes?

Keeping people poor and stupid is very beneficial to a political party that gains power by offering poor stupid people free stuff in every single election.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:38pm EDT

re: Charlie Citrine

Charlie Citrine wrote:
There's no way you weren't severely bullied in high school. "Democrats, and especially BLM, want to destroy the nuclear family" is not something a normal, well adjusted person would say.

On the BLM website, they stated they wanted to "disrupt Western-prescribed nuclear family" in their mission statement. Saying that all democrats want to destroy the nuclear family is definitely an overstatement, but that statement is accurate regarding the more radical feminist factions of the Democrat party and voter base who believe that marriage is an antiquated institution meant to oppress women.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:38pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
whambulance wrote:
Exactly. Imagine being so dumb you think that is calling the nuclear family racist.
"western-prescribed" is BLM speak for "things white people came up with"
If it's so wholesome an idea why did they remove it from their website?

Because a lot of dumb people like you couldn’t understand it.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:40pm EDT

re: valjean

valjean wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
There's some real stupidity in this article.
If you don't start with the nuclear family where does he think all of the other extended relations come from??
you do start with the nuclear family - and then you add on the extended family so that the nuclear family is not isolated. That's the whole point of the article

The title is "The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake".

Even if this imbecile's article was on to something the traditional nuclear family will have an extended family that's twice the size of the single mother's extended family.

Real world data proves that single parent homes are an abject disaster. This isn't because of a lack of extended family support.

This post was edited 30 seconds after it was posted.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:43pm EDT

re: Let it Rupp

Let it Rupp wrote:
Charlie Citrine wrote:
There's no way you weren't severely bullied in high school. "Democrats, and especially BLM, want to destroy the nuclear family" is not something a normal, well adjusted person would say.
On the BLM website, they stated they wanted to "disrupt Western-prescribed nuclear family"

Nope. Disrupt the REQUIREMENT for a nuclear family. Reading hard.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:48pm EDT

re: whambulance

whambulance wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
On the BLM website, they stated they wanted to "disrupt Western-prescribed nuclear family"
Nope. Disrupt the REQUIREMENT for a nuclear family. Reading hard.

No group in America has done a better job of not having nuclear families than African-Americans.

How's that working out for them?

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:50pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
whambulance wrote:
Nope. Disrupt the REQUIREMENT for a nuclear family. Reading hard.
No group in America has done a better job of not having nuclear families than African-Americans.
How's that working out for them?

Not well. Just like your education isn’t working out well for you.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 1:59pm EDT

re: whambulance

whambulance wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
No group in America has done a better job of not having nuclear families than African-Americans.
How's that working out for them?
Not well. Just like your education isn’t working out well for you.

You don't need a PhD to figure out 2 parent homes are better for children than 1 parent and no parent homes.

2 years ago 07/20/2023 2:03pm EDT

re: TheAdultInTheRoom

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
whambulance wrote:
Not well. Just like your education isn’t working out well for you.
You don't need a PhD to figure out 2 parent homes are better for children than 1 parent and no parent homes.

You also don’t need a PHD to know that disrupting a reliance on something is not trying to destroy the thing itself. Yet you read that and can’t see the difference.

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